UGA v Hawaii

[tekekini]

This is EXACTLY why the non BCS schools do not get title shots. How mortifying for Hawaii.

lol.

UGA is about to go up 31-3 before the half.

This from the genius who was talked into bombing Ireland not long ago.

Non-BCS schools are now 2-1 in BCS bowls. Same record you though thought was so great when you talked about the Big 10 vs. the SEC in bowl games last year.

Don't you just love being taken down by your own logic, Justin?

2-1 all time for mid majors playing at-large BCS opponents and relying on trick plays and gimmicks v. 2-1 in one season conference against conference.. no comparison.

Boise and Utah play someone other than West Virginia or an over rated Oklahoma on a bad year then they get smoked as well. Face it, OU was an over rated team who played in a bad bad Big 12. They were a BCS team by default. West Virginia might as well be mid major with their high school offense and sorry ass conference.

[redskins4ever]

To bad it was Utah vs. Pitt... and Utah ROUTED Pitt... of course your lack of football knowledge is so abundantly clear Im surprised you continue to post.

[tekekini]

exactly, it was so unimportant that hardly anyone gave a crap who they played.

Hell, you had to look it up to remember who they played.

wow Pitt another Big east team which is a mid major conference that for some reason is considered a BCS conference.

Hell, the MAC would be a better BCS conference than the Big East is.

[Falcon30]

This is EXACTLY why the non BCS schools do not get title shots. How mortifying for Hawaii.

lol.

UGA is about to go up 31-3 before the half.

This from the genius who was talked into bombing Ireland not long ago.

Non-BCS schools are now 2-1 in BCS bowls. Same record you though thought was so great when you talked about the Big 10 vs. the SEC in bowl games last year.

Don't you just love being taken down by your own logic, Justin?

2-1 all time for mid majors playing at-large BCS opponents and relying on trick plays and gimmicks v. 2-1 in one season conference against conference.. no comparison.

Boise and Utah play someone other than West Virginia or an over rated Oklahoma on a bad year then they get smoked as well. Face it, OU was an over rated team who played in a bad bad Big 12. They were a BCS team by default. West Virginia might as well be mid major with their high school offense and sorry ass conference.

OK - trick plays and gimmicks? give me a break. Yeah, there were trick plays, but Boise actually controlled most of that game! I remembered Utah beat Pitt. Didn't have to look it up. They also didnt need any trick plays.

2-1 is 2-1. The non-bcs schools are 2-1 against bcs schools in bcs bowls. This year, the weakest non-bcs entrant ever got to be paired with possibly the hottest team in the country.

You still have no sense of logic.

You said that non BCS schools have no business in BCS bowls despite non-BCS schools' .667 winning percentage over the past three years. You based it on ONE GAME with (as I said before) the weakest non-BCS team to make it in the three years against the best opponent they have had.

Your lack of logic and rational thought is sometimes astounding.

[Falcon30]

Hell, the MAC would be a better BCS conference than the Big East is.

That's something we can agree on.

[tekekini]

This is EXACTLY why the non BCS schools do not get title shots. How mortifying for Hawaii.

lol.

UGA is about to go up 31-3 before the half.

This from the genius who was talked into bombing Ireland not long ago.

Non-BCS schools are now 2-1 in BCS bowls. Same record you though thought was so great when you talked about the Big 10 vs. the SEC in bowl games last year.

Don't you just love being taken down by your own logic, Justin?

2-1 all time for mid majors playing at-large BCS opponents and relying on trick plays and gimmicks v. 2-1 in one season conference against conference.. no comparison.

Boise and Utah play someone other than West Virginia or an over rated Oklahoma on a bad year then they get smoked as well. Face it, OU was an over rated team who played in a bad bad Big 12. They were a BCS team by default. West Virginia might as well be mid major with their high school offense and sorry ass conference.

OK - trick plays and gimmicks? give me a break. Yeah, there were trick plays, but Boise actually controlled most of that game! I remembered Utah beat Pitt. Didn't have to look it up. They also didnt need any trick plays.

2-1 is 2-1. The non-bcs schools are 2-1 against bcs schools in bcs bowls. This year, the weakest non-bcs entrant ever got to be paired with possibly the hottest team in the country.

You still have no sense of logic.

You said that non BCS schools have no business in BCS bowls despite non-BCS schools' .667 winning percentage over the past three years. You based it on ONE GAME with (as I said before) the weakest non-BCS team to make it in the three years against the best opponent they have had.

Your lack of logic and rational thought is sometimes astounding.

no, no, you obviously didnt read my original post. I never said that they didnt deserve BCS bowl games. I said they do not deserve TITLE SHOTS. There is a difference. read it again. It is the very first post of the thread. It is not hard to find. They can play in a BCS game and not have a shot at the title, obviously.

My logic stands. If Boise, or Utah would have played any team that was in the title game in the same year that a mid major made a BCS bowl, then those mid majors would have gotten wiped off the field just like Hawaii.

[h2oville rocket]

My logic stands. If Boise, or Utah would have played any team that was in the title game in the same year that a mid major made a BCS bowl, then those mid majors would have gotten wiped off the field just like Hawaii.

Didn't Boise play in a BCS game last year? As I stated earlier they could have beaten any team in the country except Florida, including whoever else was in the title game. Not much doubt about that. Hence, they deserved to get creamed by Florida just as much as whoever else Florida creamed.

[takeoffeh]

Hey Tikibar, you amaze me. Here you criticize Hawaii for having a great season and getting it handed to them in the bowl game! Yet, last year, OSU had a great season and got it handed to them in a bowl game. It happens. In DI football, especially this year, any team is capable of beating any other team out there.

[Falcon30]

This is EXACTLY why the non BCS schools do not get title shots. How mortifying for Hawaii.

lol.

UGA is about to go up 31-3 before the half.

This from the genius who was talked into bombing Ireland not long ago.

Non-BCS schools are now 2-1 in BCS bowls. Same record you though thought was so great when you talked about the Big 10 vs. the SEC in bowl games last year.

Don't you just love being taken down by your own logic, Justin?

2-1 all time for mid majors playing at-large BCS opponents and relying on trick plays and gimmicks v. 2-1 in one season conference against conference.. no comparison.

Boise and Utah play someone other than West Virginia or an over rated Oklahoma on a bad year then they get smoked as well. Face it, OU was an over rated team who played in a bad bad Big 12. They were a BCS team by default. West Virginia might as well be mid major with their high school offense and sorry ass conference.

OK - trick plays and gimmicks? give me a break. Yeah, there were trick plays, but Boise actually controlled most of that game! I remembered Utah beat Pitt. Didn't have to look it up. They also didnt need any trick plays.

2-1 is 2-1. The non-bcs schools are 2-1 against bcs schools in bcs bowls. This year, the weakest non-bcs entrant ever got to be paired with possibly the hottest team in the country.

You still have no sense of logic.

You said that non BCS schools have no business in BCS bowls despite non-BCS schools' .667 winning percentage over the past three years. You based it on ONE GAME with (as I said before) the weakest non-BCS team to make it in the three years against the best opponent they have had.

Your lack of logic and rational thought is sometimes astounding.

no, no, you obviously didnt read my original post. I never said that they didnt deserve BCS bowl games. I said they do not deserve TITLE SHOTS. There is a difference. read it again. It is the very first post of the thread. It is not hard to find. They can play in a BCS game and not have a shot at the title, obviously.

My logic stands. If Boise, or Utah would have played any team that was in the title game in the same year that a mid major made a BCS bowl, then those mid majors would have gotten wiped off the field just like Hawaii.

No. Utah and Boise were better than Hawaii. Earlier in this thread you claimed that 2-1 was completely different than 2-1 because it was a different pool of teams spread out over three years. Now you are trying to use one example to justify the past and the future.

When BG played Miami in 2003 twice, they were the best team on our schedule. Ohio State wasn't. Miami was. Roethlisberger was amazing after game 1. As much as I hate to bring them up, Marshall with Chad Pennington and Randy Moss (and a few other NFLers) would have been able to play with anyone. Do you think all of this pro-bowl NFL talent is worse because they have an M on their helmets? Hawaii was definitely the exception to the rule. Your logic is faulty because you are basing it on Hawaii.

I know you only have a cursory knowledge of football, but look at the DVD of that game last year with Boise State.

Their lines were solid. Zabransky had time. Oklahoma had depth and made a great comeback, but BSU lead at halftime without needing tricks or gadgets. Stoops was outcoached, OU was outplayed. Utah destroyed the Big East champ. I dont' think much of the big east, but WVU sure looked good yesterday. I am afraid of what Rutgers might do to Ball State.

[Falconfreak90]

"Trick plays"...I love that term. In my world, the idea of the offense is to drive the ball down the field and score. It doens't matter to me if you spread the field or line up in a power I and pound the D. Whatever works to get you in the end zone.

I seem to remember Ole Sweater Vest even spreading things out a bit, no?

Again, WHATEVER GETS THE BALL DOWN THE FIELD AND IN THE END ZONE is fine with me. Call it what you want (BTW< a great Tesla song~)....

GO BG~

[Peregrinner]

I seem to remember Ole Sweater Vest even spreading things out a bit, no?

Good call, Freak. It always drives me nuts how major conference fanboys and ESPN analysts (or is there a difference? ) seem so quick to pass off the spread as a gimmicky, trick offense when it's run by a 'mid-major' school, but suddenly when it's anOSU or Florida running something like it, it's a 'brilliant, exciting, high powered, high scoring, spread-the-field offense'. Give me a break.

In football the goal is to score enough points and make enough stops that your team has more points when the final buzzer sounds. How you get there makes no difference. I don't care if Boise State or Utah or Hawai'i or anyone else had done a hook-and-ladder every single down. If they score more points they win and they're the better team - at least on that day.

I can't help but think of revolutionary war movies where the British are so confounded by the American soldiers refusing to play the game of 'line up and march right at each other'. Get used to it. Things are changing.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

I can't help but think of revolutionary war movies where the British are so confounded by the American soldiers refusing to play the game of 'line up and march right at each other'. Get used to it. Things are changing.

"They're not allowed to hide! Bollocks!"

[Falcon30]

"Trick plays"...I love that term. In my world, the idea of the offense is to drive the ball down the field and score. It doens't matter to me if you spread the field or line up in a power I and pound the D. Whatever works to get you in the end zone.

I seem to remember Ole Sweater Vest even spreading things out a bit, no?

Again, WHATEVER GETS THE BALL DOWN THE FIELD AND IN THE END ZONE is fine with me. Call it what you want (BTW< a great Tesla song~)....

GO BG~

Didn't Ellessyou have a nifty trick field goal where the holder touched the football to the ground then flipped the ball no-look over his head to the kicker who scored?

Didn't Ohio State 'resort' to a fake FG against Miami in 2003 in the Fiesta Bowl?

I mean, a play-action fake is tricky, too, right? What about an end-around or *gasp* a reverse! Misdirection! Screen passes! They let those linemen think they are going to have a sack, but it is really a pass!!!

Shocking

[tekekini]

"Trick plays"...I love that term. In my world, the idea of the offense is to drive the ball down the field and score. It doens't matter to me if you spread the field or line up in a power I and pound the D. Whatever works to get you in the end zone.

I seem to remember Ole Sweater Vest even spreading things out a bit, no?

Again, WHATEVER GETS THE BALL DOWN THE FIELD AND IN THE END ZONE is fine with me. Call it what you want (BTW< a great Tesla song~)....

GO BG~

They ran a spread passing offense, not a spread option, they have never used a statue of liberty play. I never said anything about the spread.

I mentioned the high school offense in a post that West Virginia uses, maybe you are confused about that? The spread option is a high school offense that you use when you have a shitty QB who can't throw.

The basic spread, the one OSU used with Troy, is a college offense that is even run and pass.

comparing fake field goals to statue of liberty plays?? gimme a break. fake field goals and punts are highly predictable. Statue of liberty is a gimmick that you only use when your outmatched. It is the only way to survive.


Non BCS schools do not derserve title shots..period

Not Boise, Not Utah, not Hawaii, none of them. They can't handle it.

[Falcon30]

"Trick plays"...I love that term. In my world, the idea of the offense is to drive the ball down the field and score. It doens't matter to me if you spread the field or line up in a power I and pound the D. Whatever works to get you in the end zone.

I seem to remember Ole Sweater Vest even spreading things out a bit, no?

Again, WHATEVER GETS THE BALL DOWN THE FIELD AND IN THE END ZONE is fine with me. Call it what you want (BTW< a great Tesla song~)....

GO BG~

They ran a spread passing offense, not a spread option, they have never used a statue of liberty play. I never said anything about the spread.

I mentioned the high school offense in a post that West Virginia uses, maybe you are confused about that? The spread option is a high school offense that you use when you have a shitty QB who can't throw.

The basic spread, the one OSU used with Troy, is a college offense that is even run and pass.

comparing fake field goals to statue of liberty plays?? gimme a break. fake field goals and punts are highly predictable. Statue of liberty is a gimmick that you only use when your outmatched. It is the only way to survive.


Non BCS schools do not derserve title shots..period

Not Boise, Not Utah, not Hawaii, none of them. They can't handle it.

Based on what? Based on Hawaii? Utah Killed Pitt. They beat Arizona at Arizona by 20. They stomped North Carolina.

Hawaii had a weak schedule. They are the worst example. Utah had the #1 overall pick in the NFL draft at QB. They were a legitimate team. Yet, you want to marginalize them because of their conference. You don't look at the accomplishments or the talent on the team. You're like a racist who says a black qb can never make it in the nfl.

Your trick plays argument is so friggin' weak, it isn't even worth addressing. it was legal, it was clever, it was no different than any other clever play that a team hasn't run all year.

BTW - it's "when you're outmatched" not "your."