Unbelievable...

[BGFan]

Yea...those SEC fans love the BCS, ecspecially Auburn fans!
Florida probably is overrated, but Chris Leak most definately is not...he is one of the best QB's in the game, if he was just in a right system for him.

If he's that good of a qb he should be able to adapt to any system that the coach adopts. Our system wasn't put in to exploit Josh Harris, Josh Harris was expected to learn the system and run it to the best of his abilities. A good, intelligent qb should be able to run any offensive scheme that the coach chooses to utilize.

[momtartin]

Yea...those SEC fans love the BCS, ecspecially Auburn fans!
Florida probably is overrated, but Chris Leak most definately is not...he is one of the best QB's in the game, if he was just in a right system for him.

If he's that good of a qb he should be able to adapt to any system that the coach adopts. Our system wasn't put in to exploit Josh Harris, Josh Harris was expected to learn the system and run it to the best of his abilities. A good, intelligent qb should be able to run any offensive scheme that the coach chooses to utilize.

Exactly. I'm not saying he should be perfect in his first season, but to get the amount of attention he's getting for his performance thus far this year, its ridiculous, and he doesn't deserve the attention. I don't remember his name ONCE last year, and all of a sudden he comes out of the woods and is one of the greatest QB's ever? I don't think so.

[PGY Tiercel]

Hell if Leak is that good of a qb, one would think that he would have been selected to to the all SEC 1st team and not Vandy's qb. In my opinion Leak is overrated, I think Woodson (KY qb) will in time prove to be better than Leak.

[tekekini]

I think the SEC sucks..the Big 12 and big ten may not have a higher number of better teams.. but the top teams in those conferences are much better than SEC teams. Michigan and Iowa would normally be on that list but for some reason they both suck this year. The PAC 10 is comming back around with ASU USC, Oregon and Arizona getting better...CAL usually pretty good

[UK Peregrine]

I think the SEC sucks..the Big 12 and big ten may not have a higher number of better teams.. but the top teams in those conferences are much better than SEC teams. Michigan and Iowa would normally be on that list but for some reason they both suck this year.

So let's take a quick look at your unsubstantiated claims by using some numbers, and since I don't want to read a journal article yet.

Here are the Big10 teams all-time records against the SEC (Bold = winning record; Italics = Losing record):

Illinois 2-6
Indiana 25-21-1
Iowa 4-2
Michigan 18-5-1 *9-0-1 against Vanderbilt* (Vandy is 7-7-1 against the rest of the Big10)
MSU 5-6-1
Minnesota 5-3
Northwestern 2-5-1
OSU 7-9-1 The SEC is the only conference they have a losing record against.
PSU 15-16
Purdue 15-16
Wisconsin 2-7-1

TOTAL = 89-85-6

Seven Big10 teams have a losing record against the SEC and four Big 10 teams have winning records. Plus the Vanderbilt-UM outlier screws things slightly in favor for the overall Big10 record. Take what yu want from this diversion, but try to keep in mind that this is the only conference in college football that OSU has a losing record against. So if the the SEC sucks, then a simple logical deduction says what about OSU and the Big10....

[Bleeding Orange]

I think the SEC sucks..the Big 12 and big ten may not have a higher number of better teams.. but the top teams in those conferences are much better than SEC teams. Michigan and Iowa would normally be on that list but for some reason they both suck this year.

So let's take a quick look at your unsubstantiated claims by using some numbers, and since I don't want to read a journal article yet.

Here are the Big10 teams all-time records against the SEC (Bold = winning record; Italics = Losing record):

Illinois 2-6
Indiana 25-21-1
Iowa 4-2
Michigan 18-5-1 *9-0-1 against Vanderbilt* (Vandy is 7-7-1 against the rest of the Big10)
MSU 5-6-1
Minnesota 5-3
Northwestern 2-5-1
OSU 7-9-1 The SEC is the only conference they have a losing record against.
PSU 15-16
Purdue 15-16
Wisconsin 2-7-1

TOTAL = 89-85-6

Seven Big10 teams have a losing record against the SEC and four Big 10 teams have winning records. Plus the Vanderbilt-UM outlier screws things slightly in favor for the overall Big10 record. Take what yu want from this diversion, but try to keep in mind that this is the only conference in college football that OSU has a losing record against. So if the the SEC sucks, then a simple logical deduction says what about OSU and the Big10....

OOH! OOH! PICK ME! PICK ME!

[kdog27]

but Chris Leak most definately is not...he is one of the best QB's in the game, if he was just in a right system for him.

I'm going have to go ahead and disagree with you there.

[Falconboy]

but Chris Leak most definately is not...he is one of the best QB's in the game, if he was just in a right system for him.

I'm going have to go ahead and disagree with you there.

That isn't what I think it is it? :coo-coo:

[Bleeding Orange]

but Chris Leak most definately is not...he is one of the best QB's in the game, if he was just in a right system for him.

I'm going have to go ahead and disagree with you there.

That isn't what I think it is it? :coo-coo:

What kind of product do you use to keep your hair in place with all of the wind generated by stuff flying over your head?

[TG1996]

What kind of product do you use to keep your hair in place with all of the wind generated by stuff flying over your head?

Just regular old hair gel, why?

[BGSUVA]

I don't remember his name ONCE last year, and all of a sudden he comes out of the woods and is one of the greatest QB's ever? I don't think so.

If you never heard his name once before this year, then you obviously are an idiot when it comes to college football and it is pointless to even continue arguing with you

[BGSUVA]

Hell if Leak is that good of a qb, one would think that he would have been selected to to the all SEC 1st team and not Vandy's qb. In my opinion Leak is overrated, I think Woodson (KY qb) will in time prove to be better than Leak.

Everyone knows Vandy sucks, but that doesn't mean their QB is bad...Cutler has looked solid his entire career, even as a freshman. That's like saying that if aaron Rodgers is that good of a QB, then he would have been selected first team all Pac 10 last year.

[BGSUVA]

I think the SEC sucks..the Big 12 and big ten may not have a higher number of better teams.. but the top teams in those conferences are much better than SEC teams. Michigan and Iowa would normally be on that list but for some reason they both suck this year. The PAC 10 is comming back around with ASU USC, Oregon and Arizona getting better...CAL usually pretty good

Yea the top teams, like Texas and....and...Oklahoma? Nebraska? You probably think OU was better than Auburn last year. Ohio State may be better this year than the top SEC teams, but that is all. Penn State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, and even Iowa couldn't hang with Alabama, Florida, UT, UGA, and LSU. Auburn could also probably beat most of those big ten teams too. LSU has much better players than ohio state, but LSU also has bad coaching, which is holding them back. Talent wise, the only team better than LSU is USC. Coaching wise, there are probably about 70 coaches better than Myles. If you wanted to make an argument for a better conference than the SEC, the only argument could be ACC (though, even as an avid ACC fan, I know there is no comparison). ACC has 6 or 7 teams in the top 25, but we aren't a better conference than the SEC. ACC is still better than the big ten and big 12 though.

[BGSUVA]

ok, so does Wisconsin and Ohio State losing finally put an end to that argument, or is Penn State suddenly the best team ever?