Talk about the Buckeyes the Wolverines the Hilltoppers the Ducks the Beavers the Chanticleers... or anyone else who isn't BG or an opponent in this forum.
Out of nowhere, student-athletes found themselves the targets of Representative Tom Brinkman of Cincinnati.
While discussing how tougher academic standards could hurt schools like Ohio State, Rep. Brinkman said, "Be careful what you wish for because sports teams like Ohio State’s... are filled with dummies."
UT is listed in the 2004 edition of The Unofficial, Unbiased Guide to the 328 Most Interesting Colleges by Trent Anderson and Seppy Basili as one of the U.S. schools with the “Most Beautiful Urban Campus.”
post the rest of the story nimrod. The guy is very misinformed. 56 players on the football team have a GPA of 3.0 or higher. They have come a long way from the Cooper years.
It was a remark that Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith did not appreciate.
"It's very disappointing. It further stereotypes student athletes," Smith said.
Smith also said that Brinkman is “misinformed.”
According to Smith, 56 members of the football team carry a grade point average 3.0 or higher, and just under 60 percent of all student athletes graduate in 6 years or less.
"Our student-athletes graduate at a higher rate than the rest of general student population," said Smith
I couldn't post the rest of the story because '87 would give me a beat-down for copyright infringement.
Besides, Gene Smith didn't tell the rest of the story either. Yeah, those may be the grades on record for those students, but he didn't tell us how many of those students earned those grades through their own work.
Ohio State has a very good football team, but I think it is time we quit referring to them as a college team.
UT is listed in the 2004 edition of The Unofficial, Unbiased Guide to the 328 Most Interesting Colleges by Trent Anderson and Seppy Basili as one of the U.S. schools with the “Most Beautiful Urban Campus.”
Cos their players are too good for college football!!!
but seriously..why does everyone think that big time college football teams are given their grades... give me a break.
even if they are, then it is not their faults it is the teachers fault for being soft and playing favorites..It would have nothing to do with the player itself...It is a two way street
I don't particularly question the GPA's of these kids. What I do question are the classes that they are put into. Most schools put kids into classes that aren't as challenging as others. Let's not forget a few years ago when some of the OSU players had a hard time passing AIDS awareness, golfing, and a couple other crappy classes in the summer to stay eligible. I'm very sure that there really are kids that are getting very good grades in classes that you have to do more than just show up to, and I am not going to lump all kids in one category. But don't think that quite a few of these kids are actually taking courses that are that hard. I know first hand that in order to keep kids eligible, you have to get kids into classes that aren't that hard. Coaching at the JUCO level, I know how scheduling goes. I have talked to a lot of other college coaches, and they tell me that they try to find as many easy classes as possible for these kids. I don't fully blame the kids or the athletic department for this though. Coaches are hired to win, and they have to recruit kids that are going to help them get that done. A lot of kids that are great athletes are given an easy road in high school, and they don't learn the work ethic in the classroom to get it done in the harder classes.
I have a kid that told me that she did everything she could to try to fail a class or two, and the coaches and the teachers wouldn't allow it. They would give her a C. All because she was a great athlete two sport athlete, and it would affect them also. I am going to put quite a bit of the academic blame on the high school systems of a lot of these kids, especially the inner city districts. But when an AD says that we have so many kids with a 3.0 or higher, let's see the classes and majors that go along with it.
HoustonFalcon wrote: Let's not forget a few years ago when some of the OSU players had a hard time passing AIDS awareness, golfing, and a couple other crappy classes in the summer to stay eligible.
That was ONE player (Andy Katzenmoyer) who everyone would admit was not a real bright individual. However, following that incident OSU put in a new ruling that all students must be "actively pursuing a degree." So while they may pick the easiest degree, and they may pick the easiest courses that move them towards that degree, they still must be taking classes that are part of a degree requirement to stay eligible.
I don't doubt that many OSU players are given grades for some classes, or are taking incredibly easy classes to get by. What annoys me is the number of people on this messageboard that think this doesn't happen at BG. I would bet that it happens at BG every bit as often as it happens in Columbus. The same goes for UT, Miami, and every other D1A school in the country. The football players get some special treatment.
tekekini wrote:post the rest of the story nimrod. The guy is very misinformed. 56 players on the football team have a GPA of 3.0 or higher. They have come a long way from the Cooper years.
Sorry Paul Harvey, but the rest of the story isn't the story.
What you have is a state representative bashing a university in his own state. Not only bashing A university in his own state but a university that many people would consider it to be THE university in his own state.
It would be interesting to see his campaign reports and his personal disclosure forms and see how many OSU employees have donated to his campaigns and if he was ever a recipient of tickets to athletic events at OSU (and if he was ever a member of a travel party).
You need to lighten up teke. You're making it too easy for others to poke fun at you. Notice they don't harass hammb about his support of OSU.
"The name on the front of the jersey is more important than the name on the back" -Herb Brooks
Hammb, I never said that it didn't happen at BG. In another topic, I said that I'm sure that it did, and that those who believe it doesn't are fools. It wasn't just Katenmoyer that summer that had to take those classes to get eligible. I can't remember the other players, but there were about three total that summer. My first post on this topic says that it goes on at other schools all over. I hope that you aren't trying to say that I'm ignoring the fact that it goes on at BG. I would never be that nieve or dumb.
tekekini wrote:post the rest of the story nimrod. The guy is very misinformed. 56 players on the football team have a GPA of 3.0 or higher. They have come a long way from the Cooper years.
Sorry Paul Harvey, but the rest of the story isn't the story.
What you have is a state representative bashing a university in his own state. Not only bashing A university in his own state but a university that many people would consider it to be THE university in his own state.
It would be interesting to see his campaign reports and his personal disclosure forms and see how many OSU employees have donated to his campaigns and if he was ever a recipient of tickets to athletic events at OSU (and if he was ever a member of a travel party).
You need to lighten up teke. You're making it too easy for others to poke fun at you. Notice they don't harass hammb about his support of OSU.
the only one making fun of people around here is me. most of you are a joke. seriously. you think everything bad happens in columbus but nothing illegal happens in BG.
I find it very very interesting that I used to see Cole driving a brand new looking SUV with Ohio plates quite often.
Once again, who the hell are you to insult anyone when you admitted you never even heard of BG until you were 17? You have to be most naive, head-stuck-up-your-azz person ever to grow up in Ohio to be that clueless.
You care more about a school you never attended instead of the your alma mater. That is the true definition of a "joke". Why don't you take your humanoid self over to the OSU board if you have such a hard-on for them? (and, once again, this is coming from an OSU fan)
Trolls are one thing. Disloyal, no-character trolls from your own school are intolerable and embarassing.
tekekini wrote:
I find it very very interesting that I used to see Cole driving a brand new looking SUV with Ohio plates quite often.
Now I know you're full of sh!t. Cole Magner, right up until after his senior season drove some old POS buick. I know this because on several different occassions he almost hit me while crossing Mercer.
You are joke - and a liar.
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