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I don't like the Buckeyes, but they are signing some marquee home-and-home series (as they should). Obviously, they played Texas last year and will play them next month. I believe they also have deals with USC and Miami (Fla.) in upcoming years.

The only reason they schedules YSU is because that is where Tressell came from. It is a joke and I wish that game was not on the schedule.

But you do have to give it to them. They arent like Michigan, Iowa, and all of these other panzy schools scheduling Idaho, eastern Tennessee, etc.. for their pre conference games.

The fans want big time games and OSU is giving it to us. Its better for recruiting as well.

tekekini wrote:But you do have to give it to them. They arent like Michigan, Iowa, and all of these other panzy schools scheduling Idaho, eastern Tennessee, etc.. for their pre conference games.

They scheduled YSU. As much as you may not like it, I don't have to give them anything.

I do applaud them for their recent scheduling efforts, though, it looks like they're getting away from the patterns of the past of scheduling a bunch of teams they can buy into a home game (see San Diego State repeatedly) and are finding a solid game each year and making it a home-and-home.

As far as the "they aren't like..." comment, I don't see how you can seriously include Michigan in that list. They may not have a Texas on the schedule, but for years they have had a solid team, often as a dangerous West Coast road trip, and Notre Dame. Granted, the Irish have been mediocre for most of the last decade, but you never know what you're getting when you schedule them that far in advance. The fact that it's a rivalry doesn't make it any easier even if ND is 6-5.

Oh, and they didn't schedule YSU. And the "it's where Tressel is from doesn't fly", Lloyd Carr is from Northern Michigan and you don't see them coming to the Big House.

Again, I commend OSU for their recent scheduling efforts, but their history in that area (even very recently) doesn't quite get them up on the scheduling pedestal.

TG1996 wrote:

tekekini wrote:But you do have to give it to them. They arent like Michigan, Iowa, and all of these other panzy schools scheduling Idaho, eastern Tennessee, etc.. for their pre conference games.

They scheduled YSU. As much as you may not like it, I don't have to give them anything.

I do applaud them for their recent scheduling efforts, though, it looks like they're getting away from the patterns of the past of scheduling a bunch of teams they can buy into a home game (see San Diego State repeatedly) and are finding a solid game each year and making it a home-and-home.

As far as the "they aren't like..." comment, I don't see how you can seriously include Michigan in that list. They may not have a Texas on the schedule, but for years they have had a solid team, often as a dangerous West Coast road trip, and Notre Dame. Granted, the Irish have been mediocre for most of the last decade, but you never know what you're getting when you schedule them that far in advance. The fact that it's a rivalry doesn't make it any easier even if ND is 6-5.

Oh, and they didn't schedule YSU. And the "it's where Tressel is from doesn't fly", Lloyd Carr is from Northern Michigan and you don't see them coming to the Big House.

Again, I commend OSU for their recent scheduling efforts, but their history in that area (even very recently) doesn't quite get them up on the scheduling pedestal.

You beat me to it. Michigan still schedules their fair share of patsies, but they have been much more daring in scheduling than OSU in the past. A couple of awesome home and home series doesn't level that playing field.

I do love what OSU is doing though, because I love college football. This is a welcome change to their OOC scheduling philosophy.

For the record, here are their OOC games ...

2006
OSU: Northern Illinois, BGSU, Cincy, Texas
Michigan: Vanderbilt, Central Michigan, Notre Dame, Ball State

2005
OSU: Miami (Ohio), Texas, San Diego State,
Michigan: Northern Illinois, Notre Dame, Eastern Michigan

2004
OSU: Cincy, Marshall, North Carolina State
Michigan: Miami (Ohio), Notre Dame, San Diego State

2003
OSU: Washington, San Diego State, North Carolina State, BGSU
Michigan: Central Michigan, Houston, Notre Dame, Oregon

2002
OSU: Texas Tech, Kent State, Washington State, Cincy
Michigan: Washington, Western Michigan, Notre Dame, Utah

Draw your own conclusions ...

1987alum wrote:For the record, here are their OOC games ...

2006
OSU: Northern Illinois, BGSU, Cincy, Texas
Michigan: Vanderbilt, Central Michigan, Notre Dame, Ball State

2005
OSU: Miami (Ohio), Texas, San Diego State,
Michigan: Northern Illinois, Notre Dame, Eastern Michigan

2004
OSU: Cincy, Marshall, North Carolina State
Michigan: Miami (Ohio), Notre Dame, San Diego State

2003
OSU: Washington, San Diego State, North Carolina State, BGSU
Michigan: Central Michigan, Houston, Notre Dame, Oregon

2002
OSU: Texas Tech, Kent State, Washington State, Cincy
Michigan: Washington, Western Michigan, Notre Dame, Utah

Draw your own conclusions ...

There has definitely been a shift in philosophy down here in Columbus when it comes to scheduling at OSU. Just about every year for the forseeable future, they are playing a top-tier college football program out of conference. That has not been the case over the past 10 or 15 years with a few exceptions. I don't know if this is Tressel or the AD, but I imagine that Tressel has had a lot to do with it since most of the OOC games he has coached were scheduled during the Cooper years.

I am not a big fan of division 1-A programs playing 1-AA programs, but I do like OSU playing in state schools rather than schools like San Diego State or Rice. With Tressel's past at Youngstown State and the fact they are another in state school, it was going to happen sooner or later. Plus, the NCAA is taking away the 1-A/1-AA designation and calling them something like the Bowl Division (1-A) and the Playoff Division (1-AA) or something like that. I think this is Tressel showing some loyalty to YSU and giving them a couple big paydays.

Looks like Ohio State has some easy out of conference the next few years. Only out of conference that will be a challenge are in 2007 @ Washington, 2008 @ Southern California, 2009 Southern California, and 2010 Miami (Florida). They do have a TBD in 2010. Got the following from:
http://ohiostatebuckeyes.cstv.com/sport ... 06aab.html

Buckeyes Announce Future Football Schedules

Ohio State and Oklahoma renew gridiron rivalry

Aug. 4, 2006
COLUMBUS, Ohio: Ohio State officials confirmed today that the Buckeyes and Oklahoma would meet in a two-game, home-and-home series in 2016 and 2017.
"We still have a few details to work out, including where the first game will be, but we have an agreement in principle," said Steve Snapp, associate director of athletics. "We want to play a marquee game every year, either home or away, and Oklahoma certainly fits into that category. Our hope down the road is to continue to add high profile games and to be able to play at sites where we have not traditionally played."
Snapp noted that between now and 2016 the Buckeyes have series scheduled with Southern California (2008-09), Miami, Fla. (2010-11), the University of California (2012-13) and Virginia Tech (2014-15).
This will be just the third and fourth meetings between Ohio State and Oklahoma. The series is tied at 1-1, the Sooners defeating Ohio State 29-28 in 1977 in Columbus and the Buckeyes prevailing 24-14 in Norman in 1983.
Ohio State also released its schedules through 2010. The Buckeyes, who have an open date to fill in 2010, will play seven home games each of those years.
"One of our basic tenets in scheduling is to schedule as many home games as we can," Snapp said. "In 2012, we hope to play eight games in Ohio Stadium."
The four-year schedule includes back-to-back games with Youngstown State in 2007 and 2008. Both games will be played in Columbus. The Buckeyes also will play a home-and-home series with Army in 2009 and 2010. The two teams will play in Columbus in 2009 and either at Army or in the Meadowlands in 2010.
"The schedule the next four years is in keeping with our philosophy of playing in-state schools whenever we can," said Ohio State Director of Athletics Gene Smith. "Both Coach (Jim) Tressel and I believe strongly in that."
2007
9/1 Youngstown State
9/8 Akron
9/15 @ Washington
9/22 Northwestern
9/29 @ Minnesota
10/6 @ Purdue
10/13 Kent State
10/20 Michigan State
10/27 @ Penn State
11/3 Wisconsin
11/10 Illinois
11/17 @ Michigan

2008
8/30 Youngstown State
9/6 Ohio
9/13 @ Southern California
9/20 Troy University
9/27 Minnesota
10/4 @ Wisconsin
10/11 Purdue
10/18 @ Michigan State
10/25 Penn State
11/1 Bye Week
11/8 @ Northwestern
11/15 @ Illinois
11/22 Michigan

2009
9/5 Army
9/12 Southern California
9/19 Toledo (in Cleveland)
9/26 Illinois
10/3 @ Indiana
10/10 Wisconsin
10/17 @ Purdue
10/24 Minnesota
10/31 New Mexico State
11/7 @ Penn State
11/14 Iowa
11/21 @ Michigan

2010
9/4 Marshall
9/11 Miami (Florida)
9/18 @ Army
9/25 @ Illinois
10/2 Indiana
10/9 @ Wisconsin
10/16 Purdue
10/23 @ Minnesota
10/30 TBA
11/6 Penn State
11/13 @ Iowa
11/20 Michigan

Lets not forget that the past is irrelevant as far as scheduling history. they have a new AD. They are clearing out old home and home or 2 for one contracts, and my comment about tressell comming fromm YSU holds more credibility than you think.

It was a bigger deal that tressell came down from YSU than Carr from Northern.

YSU won four titles with Tressell, has been very successful at OSU.

Carr didnt win S*&t at Northern. Has recently been on the hot seat at UM and may be out of a job after this year.

OSU is turning their scheduling around. It is not a quick fix because they have contracts to honor still.

They always try to schedule atleast 1 other OHIO team. YSU happens to be that one.

Toledo is one in a few years and BG is one this year

it continues to improve and signing oklahoma just makes it better.

but you also do not want to be stupid and schedule 4 top 10 teams and beat yourselves up before conference play. that would be rediculous.

irs wrote:Looks like Ohio State has some easy out of conference the next few years. Only out of conference that will be a challenge are in 2007 @ Washington, 2008 @ Southern California, 2009 Southern California, and 2010 Miami (Florida). They do have a TBD in 2010. Got the following from:

Virginia Tech and Cal are in the works after Miami... and as you posted OU is set for the future.

OSU is definitely doing a lot more with their OOC schedule than in the past. Washington was actually a top team going into the game in 03, but I'd agree there weren't many elite teams in that list.

How is an OOC schedule that includes USC easy? When those games roll around, their 4th/5th year seniors will be from arguably the best recruiting classes of the 85-schollie era...

I'm not crazy about YSU, but they will be going D1 soon... and I don't look at it that differently than playing a directional school, which is a staple of BCS powerhouses.

There is nothing wrong with playing YSU. They are a good football school and will provide challenges just like any other team you prepare for. That is why we play these games on the field and not on paper. Looking at past OCC schedules for OSU gives you a look at the standard that has been set. I can understant why they are upset. We complain about the same thing every time our OCC schedule is announced in men's basketball. Imagine how many complaints would come through if we had one OCC schedule without a single D1 opponent on it. This is the same thing. All we can do is play our schedule and let the politics and BS take care of itself. It's really not even worth argueing over anymore. Unless we become a money school like the "major" conferences we will keep getting screwed.