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Good article in the Dispatch
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:09 pm
by MarkL
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content//l ... ml?sid=101
I saw this link to a Dispatch article on a blogger's page. A few highlights of note:
Since 2000, Ohio State has reported to the NCAA more than 375 violations -- the most of any of the 69 Football Bowl Subdivision schools that provided documents to The Dispatch through public-records requests.
Interesting ...
The NCAA enforcement staff arrived on Ohio State's campus on July 30 after receiving an anonymous tip that the courting of a recruit in 2007 went too far.
Ohio State records say this about the violation involving a student athlete, "SA" for short: "See full report, which includes both a response to the NCAA Enforcement inquiry as well as a violation report. Report includes analysis of two issues: recruitment of current SA (name blacked out) and the relationship with (name blacked out) and former student athletes working at institutional camps."
It took two more public-records requests to obtain additional information from Ohio State. From those heavily edited records, this much also is known about the athlete: The recruit arrived in town sometime during the 2007 football season with three friends and went to a game.
The football player received a special, discounted hotel rate and free food while visiting Ohio State.
On Aug. 21, OSU declared the athlete ineligible and filed a violation report with the NCAA. He never missed a game, though. He paid back $158 for his extra benefits, and the NCAA restored his eligibility.
He was a freshman at Ohio State last year.
He was recruited by quarterbacks coach Joe Daniels.
I wonder who that might be? Perhaps with a last name that rhymes with cryer?
Good read. We all know a WHOLE lot of illegitimate stuff goes on behind the scenes in college football recruiting. I honestly have to wish that all of this would be reported more in detail, maybe even including players' names. It would keep the players and the administrations more honest.
A couple of more examples from the Dispatch of preserving anonymity when it seems unneeded:
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/ed ... ml?sid=101
We asked the eight Ohio schools eligible for the Bowl Championship Series for the list of people who flew on university airplanes to away football games. These records are used by the NCAA to determine whether boosters (people who give money to the university and whose actions are scrutinized) fly with the team.
Kent State University sent the entire list, with no names removed. Three schools blackened out the names of students. Four removed the names of students and some nonstudents.
One state, three different responses to the same request for information -- none of which involves a student's education.
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/lo ... ml?sid=101
The school's report: President E. Gordon Gee bought dinner for a football player, his girlfriend, his brother and his sister-in-law. NCAA rules forbid athletes' families from receiving free meals. The football player couldn't play in a game until his brother repaid the cost of their dinner, $204. He did.
Information withheld by Ohio State: all names except for Gee's
Coincidentally, all three articles I posted were from yesterday's Dispatch. I gotta wonder if there's going to be more like this in the future. If so, I'll keep reading - at least somebody is making a good effort to show how ridiculous this behind the scenes stuff is.
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:13 pm
by Falcon Fanatic
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:25 pm
by Falconfreak90
"Bowling Green State University has had no major infractions investigated by the NCAA since 1952".
Thank you very much, BGSU. Let's keep it that way.
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:04 pm
by TG1996
Falconfreak90 wrote:"Bowling Green State University has had no major infractions investigated by the NCAA since 1952".
That dirty cheater Robert Whittaker.....
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:41 pm
by bgsufalcon24
Falconfreak90 wrote:"Bowling Green State University has had no major infractions investigated by the NCAA since 1952".
Thank you very much, BGSU. Let's keep it that way.
Not gonna lie Freak, that's a very impressive stat. Here's to BGSU!
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:01 am
by Falconfreak90
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:25 am
by tekekini
Falconfreak90 wrote:"Bowling Green State University has had no major infractions investigated by the NCAA since 1952".
Thank you very much, BGSU. Let's keep it that way.
no major violations? Maybe. But since this is about minor violations how many of those does bg have? Anyone know? Or does bg do the same thing as everyone else does and not release info?
This article refers to all sports at Osu who has the biggest athletic department in the country so naturally they have the most and atleast they try to make it right by making the kid pay back the money. Is some of it intentional? Perhaps but blame the NCAA because there is zero penalty for minor violations. Lane kiffin andother sec coaches admit to making violations on purpose because there is no penalty. Everyone else should do it to to keep up with the jonses.
Your job as a coach is to win and if NCAA allows it then do what u need to do to win until the NCAA does something about it.
Maybe it not right but that's life
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:44 pm
by moneymaker02
he'sss backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:43 pm
by h2oville rocket
Teke- somebody posts that your school has had no major violations since 1952! You should be button burstin' proud, my man. Why would you want to dig around and find out how many minor violations your school had? Just be proud to be a Falcon and rock those orange shorts.
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:40 pm
by Falconfreak90
h2oville rocket wrote:Teke- somebody posts that your school has had no major violations since 1952! You should be button burstin' proud, my man. Why would you want to dig around and find out how many minor violations your school had? Just be proud to be a Falcon and rock those orange shorts.
ABSOLUTELY!!! Be proud, tiki hut!
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:19 am
by Strouse
h2oville rocket wrote:Teke- somebody posts that your school has had no major violations since 1952! You should be button burstin' proud, my man. Why would you want to dig around and find out how many minor violations your school had? Just be proud to be a Falcon and rock those orange shorts.
According to this
site, Toledo has had only one major infraction since 1952.
Friday, June 20, 1980
Facts Summary: Improper recruiting inducements and transportation; unethical conduct; questionable practice; certification of compliance.
Violation Summary: Improper recruiting inducements and transportation; unethical conduct; questionable practice; certification of compliance.
Penalty Summary: None.
Involved Sports:
Men's Track - Indoor, Men's Track - Outdoor
Involved Penalties:
Television: 0 yrs
Reduction in Financial Aid: No
Postseason: 1 yrs
Recruiting: No
Probation: 1 yrs
Show Cause Action: No
just thought i'd throw that out there considering how much UT has been in the news the last year or two
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:14 pm
by h2oville rocket
Strouse wrote:h2oville rocket wrote:Teke- somebody posts that your school has had no major violations since 1952! You should be button burstin' proud, my man. Why would you want to dig around and find out how many minor violations your school had? Just be proud to be a Falcon and rock those orange shorts.
According to this
site, Toledo has had only one major infraction since 1952.
Friday, June 20, 1980
Facts Summary: Improper recruiting inducements and transportation; unethical conduct; questionable practice; certification of compliance.
Violation Summary: Improper recruiting inducements and transportation; unethical conduct; questionable practice; certification of compliance.
Penalty Summary: None.
Involved Sports:
Men's Track - Indoor, Men's Track - Outdoor
Involved Penalties:
Television: 0 yrs
Reduction in Financial Aid: No
Postseason: 1 yrs
Recruiting: No
Probation: 1 yrs
Show Cause Action: No
just thought i'd throw that out there considering how much UT has been in the news the last year or two
If I'm not mistaken the violation was my old track coach paying the way for a Kenyan hurdler to fly to UT for school. Turns out the hurdler changed his mind and sent a cousin with the same name who was a really bad hurdler. I do recall that being the first violation in a long time and it was a few years after I left. A quick and dirty search doesn't onfirm this but I'm pretty sure I'm right.
