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Honestly I think it's a terrible decision and it makes me angry. Who would advise him to return when his stock was so high. At the lowest he was a 3rd round pick. Thats probably around 3-4 million. At the highest he was a late first. I think when things were all said and done with interviews he goes late first. He just has that much physical talent. It makes me very mad when I see him say an education will take him places that his athleticism cannot. I am glad that this phrase is being heard by many many students but it doesn't apply to Cardale. He just won the national championship in Columbus and he has an engaging personality. He can easily do sales, radio, tv, etc. etc. etc. even if his pro career doesn't pan out. He risks so much coming back, he might not even start and if he does he will put his game, warts and all, on display for everybody. As far as that education goes, he can still get that paid for even if he leaves. The NCAA has a fund, OSU has a fund and he will have plenty of money. I hate when people use bad logic to make even worse decisions.

Actually, I heard that the guaranteed contracts are much closer to 1 million...or half that net after taxes.

He was just on the radio this morning and he said it was mainly because he didn't have enough time to evaluate all his options.

Bottom line, if he can't win the starting job next year at O$U, I doubt he would have fared that well on an NFL team.

so..........as I heard someone say..................he skipped class to announce he was going back to class!

Redwingtom wrote:Actually, I heard that the guaranteed contracts are much closer to 1 million...or half that net after taxes.

He was just on the radio this morning and he said it was mainly because he didn't have enough time to evaluate all his options.

Bottom line, if he can't win the starting job next year at O$U, I doubt he would have fared that well on an NFL team.

I get that logic but OSU doesn't run a pro style offense. JT and Braxton fit the offense better. He has the best tools of ANY QB in this draft and his lack of production may actually be a good thing because it doesn't show off his warts.

Globetrotter wrote:

Redwingtom wrote:Actually, I heard that the guaranteed contracts are much closer to 1 million...or half that net after taxes.

He was just on the radio this morning and he said it was mainly because he didn't have enough time to evaluate all his options.

Bottom line, if he can't win the starting job next year at O$U, I doubt he would have fared that well on an NFL team.

I get that logic but OSU doesn't run a pro style offense. JT and Braxton fit the offense better. He has the best tools of ANY QB in this draft and his lack of production may actually be a good thing because it doesn't show off his warts.

Does Oregon run a pro style offense? Mariota is still going to be a top 10 pick. FSU doesn't run a full pro style either and Winston is also a high first rounder.

Jones didn't have the luxury of getting the NFL assessment of his stock because he got thrown in so late. But NFL teams aren't going to put a lot of weight on 3 games. So he'd need to shine at the combine. Again, just too many risks in his opinion.

You can't fault him for this decision.

It's great that he enjoys college but I would have advised him to leave, enter the profession of his choice and complete the remainder of the degree over time.

I reject the whole notion that nobody can do anything productive in society without a college education and that it's some magic elixir that everyone must possess. College as it's presently constituted is a waste of time, a drain on resources and an environment where many are unqualified to be yet feel compelled to join because of the pressures of society and the inordinate focus on credentials to gain entry into fields that don't or shouldn't warrant them. (The best part of college is its role as the new high school, where remedial classes fill the gaps that high schools have left.)

We should deflate the importance of the 4 year degree and replace it with trade schools and practical training that teaches people how to fix and build things. College can then return to its status as a place for intellectuals as it was originally intended to be.

mscarn wrote:We should deflate the importance of the 4 year degree and replace it with trade schools and practical training that teaches people how to fix and build things. College can then return to its status as a place for intellectuals as it was originally intended to be.

Agreed. Cardale should get a welder's certificate and forget about both the degree and football.

He'll make more $$$ with a welder's certificate than with a degree in Underwater Basket Weaving, Interpretive Social Dance, or any similar field of study.

Critical Thinker wrote:He'll make more $$$ with a welder's certificate than with a degree in Underwater Basket Weaving, Interpretive Social Dance, or any similar field of study.

+1. Plus, nobody said he should give up football and the recommendation to expand trade instruction was made generally, not specific to him.

mscarn wrote:

Critical Thinker wrote:He'll make more $$$ with a welder's certificate than with a degree in Underwater Basket Weaving, Interpretive Social Dance, or any similar field of study.

+1. Plus, nobody said he should give up football and the recommendation to expand trade instruction was made generally, not specific to him.

Maybe he should become a plumber -

There was a leaky faucet in the offices of Ben Dover & C. Howett Fields, Attorneys at Law. C. Howett Fields, managing partner, called a plumber. The plumber arrived and after about 15 minutes was done and all cleaned up.

"That will be $275" said the plumber.

Mr. Fields objected, saying: "That's over $1000 an hour! I'm a lawyer and I don't even get that much."

The plumber responds, "I didn't either when I was a lawyer."