AA

[BGSU33]

Cameron Indoor Stadium is NOTHING like AA. Cameron does not have bleachers that are crumbling, scoreboards that do not differentiate 1's from 7's, a friggin wall on one baseline, and thousands of empty seats every game.

What? Hey '24, not to call you out (but I have to here), but have you ever been inside Cameron Indoor Stadium? It is VERY similar to AA. They are certainly not identical, but they are similar within their interiors. Cameron Indoor Stadium does have rickety old wooden pullout bleachers on its courtside like AA. It also has wooden seats inside the rest of the arena like AA. It has no air conditioning like AA, gets hot inside like AA, and doesn’t have a nice scoreboard like AA (though its much better than ours). In fact, Cameron even has steel girders that block some sightlines up top, and the funniest part of it is, it’s TV booth is not even atop the arena like the press box in AA, it’s in the rafters and you access it by climbing up a ladder. Yes, a ladder. The visiting team locker room is a pit, the baskets drops from the roof, and to stand inside it and think they cram 9,314 people in there makes you scratch your head in disbelief. The press row at CIS is that row of people you see sitting in front of the Cameron Crazies! Talk about a bad work space. I've working there several times and let me tell you, it wasn't the easiest place to work from. The concourses at Cameron aren’t much bigger or wider than AA, the offices located in the arena are about the same as AA and even the press rooms are somewhat similar. The biggest thing that separates CIS from AA (aside from more seats behind one basket) is the new Hall of Fame additions on the one side and the new coaches tower that sits beside it. What many people may not know is how similar NC State’s old arena (Reynolds Coliseum) is to Duke’s Cameron Indoor Stadium. Reynolds Coliseum was modeled exactly after Cameron Indoor Stadium, but they made it longer with more seats behind the baskets. Reynolds is a bigger building than Cameron and is built into a small incline. The arena is currently used for NCSU women’s games and I think the men's team plays one game a year there now that they've moved into the new arena.

Now, our crowd sizes and fan atmosphere at AA are nothing like Duke, I’ll give you that. But hell, the crowd sizes at Duke are nothing like they are at other schools that draw 12,000 – 20,000 either. Heck, Ball State has had 11,500 for a game this year and Ohio has had a game this year with over 10,000, Duke can't get that - because it can't hold that many. Capacity is relative when comparing crowd size to its atmosphere. It’s not its facility or capacity that makes Cameron what it is, it’s the fans and the atmosphere. I’ve been through a complete walkthrough of AA and CIS several times, and they are more similar than different than you think.

[windycityfalcon]

once again, one word: EXACTLY!!!!

[Tricky_Falcon]

See that's what happens when people post that don't have a clue what they're talking about. Yet they shove their bs down other people's throats and try to pass it as a fact.
They hear the name Duke and assume because of its success that the school has a new multi-million dollar athletic arena. Once you hear the facts you can see that our stadium and theirs isn't so different. The main difference is a winning atmosphere. That's what brings the "great" fans. If Duke was just another DI school people would be calling Cameron a dump.
Duke has been winning which brings happy and packed crowds to the stadium. BG has been losing which brings crowds of 1,500 to the stadium and people that have nothing better to do than bitch and moan about everything in our athletic dept.


Last thing. Anderson is not falling apart...Maybe the football stadium is but not anderson

[bgsufalcon24]

See that's what happens when people post that don't have a clue what they're talking about. Yet they shove their bs down other people's throats and try to pass it as a fact.
They hear the name Duke and assume because of its success that the school has a new multi-million dollar athletic arena. Once you hear the facts you can see that our stadium and theirs isn't so different. The main difference is a winning atmosphere. That's what brings the "great" fans. If Duke was just another DI school people would be calling Cameron a dump.
Duke has been winning which brings happy and packed crowds to the stadium. BG has been losing which brings crowds of 1,500 to the stadium and people that have nothing better to do than bitch and moan about everything in our athletic dept.


Last thing. Anderson is not falling apart...Maybe the football stadium is but not anderson

Doyt Perry Stadium, as poor as it is, is a much better facility than Anderson.

[svillefalcon]

See that's what happens when people post that don't have a clue what they're talking about. Yet they shove their bs down other people's throats and try to pass it as a fact.
They hear the name Duke and assume because of its success that the school has a new multi-million dollar athletic arena. Once you hear the facts you can see that our stadium and theirs isn't so different. The main difference is a winning atmosphere. That's what brings the "great" fans. If Duke was just another DI school people would be calling Cameron a dump.
Duke has been winning which brings happy and packed crowds to the stadium. BG has been losing which brings crowds of 1,500 to the stadium and people that have nothing better to do than bitch and moan about everything in our athletic dept.


Last thing. Anderson is not falling apart...Maybe the football stadium is but not anderson

Doyt Perry Stadium, as poor as it is, is a much better facility than Anderson.

especially when SEBO is finished

[BGDrew]

Doyt Perry Stadium, as poor as it is, is a much better facility than Anderson.

Let me put this nicely....bulls*it. 2 people can not walk down the hallways at the same time inside the Stadium. The locker rooms can barely hold all the football players on the home side. We have concrete facades FALLING off the side of the stadium. Luckily, we've had a few improvements which I hope will spark a massive renovation of the whole stadium.

[svillefalcon]

Doyt Perry Stadium, as poor as it is, is a much better facility than Anderson.

Let me put this nicely....bulls*it. 2 people can not walk down the hallways at the same time inside the Stadium. The locker rooms can barely hold all the football players on the home side. We have concrete facades FALLING off the side of the stadium. Luckily, we've had a few improvements which I hope will spark a massive renovation of the whole stadium.

this is all very true, but again as i said when the sebo center is built, there will be new state of the art offices, lockerroms and weight rooms...gosh i cant wait until the sebo center is finished and they annouce what they are gonna do with the basketball program, whether it be massively renovate AA or build a new arena

[BGSU33]

See that's what happens when people post that don't have a clue what they're talking about. Yet they shove their bs down other people's throats and try to pass it as a fact.
They hear the name Duke and assume because of its success that the school has a new multi-million dollar athletic arena. Once you hear the facts you can see that our stadium and theirs isn't so different. The main difference is a winning atmosphere. That's what brings the "great" fans. If Duke was just another DI school people would be calling Cameron a dump.
Duke has been winning which brings happy and packed crowds to the stadium. BG has been losing which brings crowds of 1,500 to the stadium and people that have nothing better to do than bitch and moan about everything in our athletic dept.

Exactly. Go back a decade when Coach K was in the “looney house” and Duke was struggling and some teams were able to win at Duke and you’ll see a much different Cameron Indoor Stadium atmosphere that looks nothing like the one you see today. The inside of Cameron was exactly the same, but the atmosphere was totally different. You saw many empty seats and less amounts of nerdy-as-hell students being much quieter than the ones you see on TV today, which, by the way, has always been the funniest part to me about the atmosphere at Duke. I’m not saying you have to play basketball to be a fan of basketball, but there can’t be a more nerdy-ass student section in the country than the one at Duke. Seriously. At Duke, you have a couple thousands kids who are smarter than most of us are or ever will be in our lifetime talking trash about something most of them have no idea how to play themselves. But because their teams as so damn good, they talk and chant anything they want and teams walk in there and have to eat it. No doubt though, it’s all about the atmosphere there.

If you walked into Cameron Indoor Stadium and stood on the Duke “D” at halfcourt and were expecting to be blown away by a top-notch arena, you will be sadly disappointed. Drive 10 miles over to Chapel Hill or 25 miles over to Raleigh and do the same thing at UNC or NC State and you might have a different reaction. But for college hoops, I’ll take Cameron Indoor Stadium and that atmosphere over any place I’ve ever been to, and I’ve been to some great places such as Kentucky’s Rupp Arena, Maryland’s Cole Fieldhouse and the Comcast Center, Michigan State’s Breslin Center, North Carolina’s Dean Dome, Kansas’ Allen Fieldhouse, etc. Great places, but as much as I dislike Duke, I gotta say Cameron Indoor Stadium with the atmosphere it has nowadays is awesome.

As for AA and Perry Stadium, no doubt both places need improvement. But I won’t stop there, all of our facilities need improvement. Hockey, baseball, tennis, track, soccer, softball, they all could use some upgrades, not just AA or Perry. But I’m thrilled we’re finally working on the SEBO and that were showing progress and promise to our other facility needs as well. We might be taking baby steps, but that’s better than standing still.

[windycityfalcon]

Im not sure AA will be next after Sebo.
I have it on good authority that there are plans to build a lockerroom facility between the baseball and softball fields

[jmycrckcrn99]

what are some examples of AA "falling apart"? Do you think students and people around here decide not to go to a game at AA based on your examples?

[BGSUSynchroSk8r2006]

Coach K seems to have no trouble recruiting despite his Anderson-like, although about 3,000 seat-bigger, Cameron Indoor Stadium.

Let me get this straight, you are ripping on Cameron Indoor Stadium?! Dude, that arena is probably the biggest draw among all arenas in the country. Cameron has the best fans in the country, probably the most history of any arena in the nation other than Rupp Arena in Kentucky. Try and tell me that playing in front of the Cameron Crazies isn't a good recruiting pitch.

Comparing Cameron to AA is laughable. We get 2,500 a game, maybe. I can't remember the last time Duke didn't sell out a game, they got friggin scalpers outside the arena for god sakes!

BTW: With this last post I just hatched

Hey I think we've had a ticket scalper once or twice! Same guy and all by himself out there, but we had one!!

So apparently no matter how many times there are great posts that prove the argument against AA wrong, 24 and Sville just will not stop...am I correct? These have been some amazing, in-your-face, down-your-throat-nicely posts, but it doesn't end. Seriously, why??

[04forheisman]

Im not sure AA will be next after Sebo.
I have it on good authority that there are plans to build a lockerroom facility between the baseball and softball fields

Yes, no need for secret sources, this is what they are doing next after the SEBO center.

[BGSU33]

Im not sure AA will be next after Sebo.
I have it on good authority that there are plans to build a lockerroom facility between the baseball and softball fields

Yes, no need for secret sources, this is what they are doing next after the SEBO center.

That would certainly make sense, especially if the plan is to replace AA with a convocation center like the master plan shows. Plus, all they have to do to AA is throw a few bones our way to improve it and we go nuts about it. When they put in a new sound system, or repainted the north wall with the new logo, it was like they gave us a new arena anyway. Just imagine how excited we’d be if they gave us more than one restroom in the arena, we’d blow the roof off in excitement.

[RossfordFalcon]

its not packed every game because its falling apart, the place is embarrassing, yes if filled, very loud, very crazy great atmosphere, will it every be packed again besides against UT? probably not

Are you serious? Just because the team has had a couple of bad seasons you think that AA will never be packed again. Once the team gets a couple of solid winning seasons put in a row the place will be back to having big crowds.

[BGFalconfromCincy]

Im not sure AA will be next after Sebo.
I have it on good authority that there are plans to build a lockerroom facility between the baseball and softball fields

Yes, no need for secret sources, this is what they are doing next after the SEBO center.

That would certainly make sense, especially if the plan is to replace AA with a convocation center like the master plan shows. Plus, all they have to do to AA is throw a few bones our way to improve it and we go nuts about it. When they put in a new sound system, or repainted the north wall with the new logo, it was like they gave us a new arena anyway. Just imagine how excited we’d be if they gave us more than one restroom in the arena, we’d blow the roof off in excitement.

don't forget about the new clocks on top of the baskets