EMBARASSING!!!

BGSU33 · Post by **BGSU33** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:57 pm

I second that. I think a clean break just might be what’s good for both sides, for Coach Dakich and BG. Something needs to change because we have been stuck in a bad cycle for the last four years or so of losing seasons, transfers, low attendance, eroding fan base, etc. It’s the same old story season after season and I can’t see things changing without a change itself.

OSUFALCON · Post by **OSUFALCON** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:24 am

BGSU33 wrote:I second that. I think a clean break just might be what’s good for both sides, for Coach Dakich and BG. Something needs to change because we have been stuck in a bad cycle for the last four years or so of losing seasons, transfers, low attendance, eroding fan base, etc. It’s the same old story season after season and I can’t see things changing without a change itself.

What happen last year? We were picked near the bottom and finished 18-11 with a quarterfinal lost. Not great but a solid year. Had a chance to win the Mac West going into the last weekend. I argee that DD shouldn't be given a contract extension but to cut the lines now would be foolish. We would lose more players by cutting DD then by keeping him. Ask some players! I have! Do you want names? Samarco, Marschall, Miller, Sullivan and Dusan. Some of you would say cut them too. Should we fire our hockey coach? Should we fire our football coach if he goes 5-7 next year? This is BGSU not OSU. Think about that for a minute. Our BB program doesn't look good today but that doesn't mean it won't next year. DD should have his last year on his contract to prove his worth or lack their of. It's in his hands. Oh some of you guys favorite asst. coach L. Stone, he would be gone if DD is fired. Who would hire the asst. coach of the coach that was just released.

BGSU33 · Post by **BGSU33** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:48 am

OSUFALCON wrote:
BGSU33 wrote:I second that. I think a clean break just might be what’s good for both sides, for Coach Dakich and BG. Something needs to change because we have been stuck in a bad cycle for the last four years or so of losing seasons, transfers, low attendance, eroding fan base, etc. It’s the same old story season after season and I can’t see things changing without a change itself.
What happen last year? We were picked near the bottom and finished 18-11 with a quarterfinal lost. Not great but a solid year. Had a chance to win the Mac West going into the last weekend. I argee that DD shouldn't be given a contract extension but to cut the lines now would be foolish. We would lose more players by cutting DD then by keeping him. Ask some players! I have! Do you want names? Samarco, Marschall, Miller, Sullivan and Dusan. Some of you would say cut them too. Should we fire our hockey coach? Should we fire our football coach if he goes 5-7 next year? This is BGSU not OSU. Think about that for a minute. Our BB program doesn't look good today but that doesn't mean it won't next year. DD should have his last year on his contract to prove his worth or lack their of. It's in his hands. Oh some of you guys favorite asst. coach L. Stone, he would be gone if DD is fired. Who would hire the asst. coach of the coach that was just released.

I’m not disagreeing with you, I guess what I am saying is, look at the last four years, not just last year. Heck, last year was a dream season for us with how things have gone at BG in recent years. But over the last four years, with all the losses, transfers, etc., it’s just gotten to the point where enough is enough. I would agree that if DD has one more year it may not be wise to cut ties. But you could certainly make an argument either way based on that issue. The bottom line is, things MUST change, with or without him. They just have to already. Our level of play, player defections (for whatever reasons or no matter who is to blame) and team turmoil is unacceptable for any program. We cannot afford another player defection, a losing season, or to continue along the road we are traveling or we are going to really damage this program. We have buried ourselves and it’s only a matter of time to see if we keep digging ourselves deeper in a hole that we’ve created or if we can climb out of it and become a force again. The future of this team and program all starts the second our season comes to an end this year, which could be Monday night. When that time comes, we’ll see if we can start getting this thing turned around or if we’re going to start the off-season turmoil again.

OSUFALCON · Post by **OSUFALCON** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:54 am

Well said BGSU33, I agree. I see more problems with a firing than by keeping as it stands now. DD made a point in his pre game interview to thank all the fans that have send letters and called him to lend support in the last few days. DD knows the pressure is on. I think he and his players will rise to the challenge.

bgsufalcon24 · Post by **bgsufalcon24** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:38 am

OSUFALCON, your patience and optimism is to be admired at times like these. This team is bad, and what stinks is that we only have one guy leave, so we are left with most of the same guys next year. I've been really tough on Dakich this whole last month and a half, but now I'm really starting to get pissed at some of our players. What they pulled out there today, you cannot tell me that team hasn't quit. You could have pulled out 10 guys playing pickup at BG rec center and they would have put up a better fight against Ohio today. Now I don't know if Dakich has sprained them mentally or they just don't care, but whatever the reason, our players did not represent our university very well today.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:43 am

I get the distinct impression from watching this team that they dislike the coach as much as any of his most ardent critics do. This team quit playing for their coach long ago. You cannot have that.

If Dan is still the coach by the end of April I'll bet anyone that wants to take the bet we have at least 2 more players leave the program.

I'm sorry, but for the past 4 years it's been painfully obvious that nobody wants to play for this man, and I'm flat out tired of watching it.

HoopsFan · Post by **HoopsFan** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:47 am

hammb wrote:I get the distinct impression from watching this team that they dislike the coach as much as any of his most ardent critics do. This team quit playing for their coach long ago. You cannot have that.

If Dan is still the coach by the end of April I'll bet anyone that wants to take the bet we have at least 2 more players leave the program.

I'm sorry, but for the past 4 years it's been painfully obvious that nobody wants to play for this man, and I'm flat out tired of watching it.

I'm thinking Patrick Phillips, oh, he was just a walk-on, and someone else from far away. The Michigan kids will probably stay. Not sure about Moon.

My friend is a DD supporter and I was happy to see DD go to WVU and annoyed when Krebs took him back. The best part is that we got to see what kind of coach Dakich really is. He left the team in dire straits and now you all got to see the results of his 4 years of recruiting.

I don't expect anyone to be calling for him to replace a head coach anywhere in D1 or D2, so maybe an assistant is needed somewhere. BG will do the honorable thing and let him work out the last year of his contract because that's what we do and I'm looking forward to the next year.

I've seen Haley, Weinert, Larranaga, Dakich, Dakich, and the next head coach, God willing, all come and go at BGSU. Of course I got to see Voll, Clark, and however Dee's last name is spelled, come and go in the women's program. Ya just wish them luck and move on. Sometimes you're sincere and somethimes not

Anyway, what happens will happen. Our men's BB program is down and I'd like to believe the DD era is going to be over soon. After you strip out the wins over the D2 and NAIA schools, you'll find that DD was not a very good coach for BGSU.

Hoopsfan

HoustonFalcon · Post by **HoustonFalcon** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:36 pm

While I understand a lot of everyones frustration, I believe we need to wait and see how many peopl leave the program after the season is over. If we have another defection of a player that could help our program in the future, then I too will say it's time for a fresh start. I have not been able to see the team, and can only see from the score that our team maybe has lost it's will to play this season, and that is frustrating. You guys might be right when you say it's time for a fresh start, and yes, I believe if they administration is going to make a change after Coach's contract is over, they are better to do it now. Don't think that Coach will not be up for any head coaching job at another mid DI, or a DII. People will see that he had a good season last year, and think that he can do it for them also. Somebody will be willing to give him a chance, but it won't be at a major level program obviously, I'm not sure where it will be. Let's see if some of you are good predictors, and see how many kids leave us after this season is over.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:45 pm

HoustonFalcon wrote:If we have another defection of a player that could help our program in the future, then I too will say it's time for a fresh start.

Now I am not trying to be too negative here, but I would be curious what other people think in regards to "a player that could help our program in the future"? IMO, Samarco is the only legitimate player we have as far as being a star goes. The rest look to be more of role players. Not one of which could leave the program and I would be that upset about (except for the fact that it would be another transfer). Based on what we have seen this season, are their players on this team that anyone thinks can be the foundation of a great team?

Red Wing Fan · Post by **Red Wing Fan** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:07 pm

HoustonFalcon wrote:If we have another defection of a player that could help our program in the future, then I too will say it's time for a fresh start.[/quote Based on what we have seen this season, are their players on this team that anyone thinks can be the foundation of a great team?

Erik Marschall is the only one that has really impressed me so far. If we don't lose any players this year it will only be because the team was so bad that nobody wants any of our players.

I really think another coach could get these players to win. Heck, they would probably win for the assistant coaches, if they were in charge. They have steadily gotten worse, that tells me one thing - - - he's broken their spirit and confidence and they don't want to win for him. I've heard that it doesn't matter if you lose or win for him - - - - - it's ALL BAD. The men's basketball team is the only B.G.S.U. team that the poor low seniority bus driver gets stuck driving to games.( same driver the last 6 games last year - and he didn't look happy)

Did anyone notice that Dale Barnard had a letter in yesterdays Blade? Pretty much the same letter that he sent the Sentinel. It was on Pages of Opinion.
I understand the Blade is going to be doing an article on the Falcons this week. They have always been "Dan Fans". We'll see if they still are.

transfer2BGSU · Post by **transfer2BGSU** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:27 pm

OSUFALCON wrote:DD says Monday is the most important game of the year?

Welcome to the MAC Tournament. If you want to go to the dance, then you have to win this tournament. If you're a MAC team, the regular season doesn't mean a helluva lot.

98_BG_GRAD · Post by **98_BG_GRAD** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:46 pm

transfer2BGSU wrote:
OSUFALCON wrote:DD says Monday is the most important game of the year?
Welcome to the MAC Tournament. If you want to go to the dance, then you have to win this tournament. If you're a MAC team, the regular season doesn't mean a helluva lot.

In all of college basketball, the regular season doesn't really mean much other than for seeding for the top-tier teams. It is the only sport in which a team COULD go winless in the regular season and win a championship. That is why Monday's game is the most important game of the year because Bowling Green could win a national championship (please I don't want anyone to hurt themselves laughing) and in order to do it, they have to win this game first. Remember, Coach Dakich has not lost a first round MAC Tournament game, correct? I have already stated I think it is time for DD to leave, but a win Monday probably secures his job for next year.

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:23 pm

transfer2BGSU wrote:
OSUFALCON wrote:DD says Monday is the most important game of the year?
Welcome to the MAC Tournament. If you want to go to the dance, then you have to win this tournament. If you're a MAC team, the regular season doesn't mean a helluva lot.

So are you saying our last 30 seasons or so have not meant a helluva lot?