2 more leave the Falcon's Nest

[JoeFalcon]

I keep the glass half-full outlook not because I like going on, but because 90% of you probably don't know the players. I don't see why everyone turns around and slams a player because he leaves. Moon is a good kid...he left for the same reason everyone else has left. Don't believe what you hear/see in the media.

I've also seen the whole "if players can't take it, why did they come here...they knew what they were getting in to." Sorry, but I know for a fact almost everyone on our team couldn't afford to go to college without a scholarship. When someone offers you a free education to suffer through a season, if you are smart, you'd still take it. These players are intelligent...they are trying to improve their future. Most realize they aren't going to the NBA so they need an education. But some can't deal with things here and try to find better places to play where they can still get an education and not have to deal with the crap going on behind the scenes here.

I hate what's going on just as much of any of you. But we unfortunately can't do anything about it. If Dakich needs to go, that will come from above. The only people that can probably push for that is the team and I don't see that happening either...

I'm a bit confused. You say the players are only suffering through the season to get a free education and have the only legitimate power to oust Dakich yet won't go that route?

You also say you know the players and intimate about "behind the scenes" trouble yet won't elaborate with specifics because you're not directly a part of the program?

Please elaborate and educate the uninformed masses.

[Metz]

I'm a bit confused. You say the players are only suffering through the season to get a free education and have the only legitimate power to oust Dakich yet won't go that route?

You also say you know the players and intimate about "behind the scenes" trouble yet won't elaborate with specifics because you're not directly a part of the program?

Please elaborate and educate the uninformed masses.

A lot of college students know the players...that happens when you go to school with them. I said behind the scenes because that's rather obvious. Players don't leave just to leave. There is more going on than we know about is what I'm saying. People have been leaving the program year after year and none of the players have pushed for him to get fired. It's my opinion that he is the problem and no one seems to be taking action about it.

[jacojdm]

It's my opinion that he is the problem and no one seems to be taking action about it.

this just in. in an unprecedented move, bgsu men's basketball coach has just stripped metzger of his 2005 danny award.

[BleedOrange]

I'm a bit confused. You say the players are only suffering through the season to get a free education and have the only legitimate power to oust Dakich yet won't go that route?

You also say you know the players and intimate about "behind the scenes" trouble yet won't elaborate with specifics because you're not directly a part of the program?

Please elaborate and educate the uninformed masses.

A lot of college students know the players...that happens when you go to school with them. I said behind the scenes because that's rather obvious. Players don't leave just to leave. There is more going on than we know about is what I'm saying. People have been leaving the program year after year and none of the players have pushed for him to get fired. It's my opinion that he is the problem and no one seems to be taking action about it.

Players getting togethor to push for a coach to be fired seems like a very odd scenario. What we're more likely to see instead is what we have seen: departures.

My question is this: After going 9-21 we're two players into yet another mass exodus. What's it like recruiting??? At some point, these continual transfers must have an impact, and this year's horrible record can only speed that impact. We have gaping holes in our roster. I'm wondering if that just might be our ONLY selling point and that we might have an extremely hard time getting decent MAC level recruits at this point. I'm very ready to see bad, bad results from spring recruiting.

[redskins4ever]

Maybe the guys team should go watch the women's coach and practice and see that being tough on a player doesn't mean that the coach hates them. With all of the tough love articles about Curt Miller, you'd think he is worse then Dakich.

[Red Wing Fan]

Oh give them a couple days to concoct a story. My guess is that Moon is unhappy with his role or something this time. They played the homesick card a couple times in the last year already, so I think they'll go with something more creative. He's not as good of a player as Lewis so I don't think we'll see the NBA mentioned. Has anyone in Moon's family suffered any sort of tragedy in the past 3-4 years? They could use that one again, but they used it just this past summer.


I think the odds are likely going to unfold as:

Disgruntled with role/playing time pays 3-2
Homesick pays 3-1
Family member tragedy 9-2
NBA prospectus 25-1


Anyone wanna put some money up before we get the final word from the team/coach?

I'm going with "homesick". It's still my favorite. Wasn't it Eric Crawford that was homesick and then went to a school equally far away from his home?
You forgot the "mutually agreed upon" exit - what is that going to pay?

[Jacobs4Heisman]

Quit to sell knives 7-2

[BleedOrange]

Oh give them a couple days to concoct a story. My guess is that Moon is unhappy with his role or something this time. They played the homesick card a couple times in the last year already, so I think they'll go with something more creative. He's not as good of a player as Lewis so I don't think we'll see the NBA mentioned. Has anyone in Moon's family suffered any sort of tragedy in the past 3-4 years? They could use that one again, but they used it just this past summer.


I think the odds are likely going to unfold as:

Disgruntled with role/playing time pays 3-2
Homesick pays 3-1
Family member tragedy 9-2
NBA prospectus 25-1


Anyone wanna put some money up before we get the final word from the team/coach?

I'm going with "homesick". It's still my favorite. Wasn't it Eric Crawford that was homesick and then went to a school equally far away from his home?
You forgot the "mutually agreed upon" exit - what is that going to pay?

I typically don't take players' statements at face value, either. I think that many times the players are advised to speak diplomatically in public, i.e., the press. It's easy to imagine a player's new coach and former HS coaches making a point not to spew vile, no matter how tempting it might be. It's in the best interests of both the player and and the new coaching staff.

[Red Wing Fan]

I typically don't take players' statements at face value, either. I think that many times the players are advised to speak diplomatically in public, i.e., the press. It's easy to imagine a player's new coach and former HS coaches making a point not to spew vile, no matter how tempting it might be. It's in the best interests of both the player and and the new coaching staff.[/quote]

I know players that have left and have graduated that won't say anything when the press asks them - even though there is PLENTY of things they could say, because they don't want to be preceived as "the bad guy".
I do know graduates tell kids NOT to come here to play and say it was always bad - it didn't matter if you won or lost - it was all bad!!!!! That sounds nothing like what you read about the women's team and their coach. You can tell how much they like him and like being around him.
Coach Miller said that what his team is begins in the locker room and we can see the results - - - unfortunately what the men's team is begins in the locker room also - - - and look at those results.

[bg77]

Guys- quit over analyzing and get over the fact that we just lost a point guard averaging 2 points, 1 rebound, 1.8 assists, 1.7 turnovers, that shoots 40% from the field (mostly layups), and shoots 50% from the free throw line. Let's move on and try to find a real point guard.

[Tricky_Falcon]

Maybe the guys team should go watch the women's coach and practice and see that being tough on a player doesn't mean that the coach hates them. With all of the tough love articles about Curt Miller, you'd think he is worse then Dakich.

Exactly, but people on here don't want to acknowledge that.

[guest44]

Yeah Erik Crawford is from Minnesota. And since Northen Iowa is near Phoenix, he couldn't have gotten homesick. Gosh, we've been manipulated again.

[OSUFALCON]

Where's the horse I want to hit it and then kick it!

[Red Wing Fan]

Guys- quit over analyzing and get over the fact that we just lost a point guard averaging 2 points, 1 rebound, 1.8 assists, 1.7 turnovers, that shoots 40% from the field (mostly layups), and shoots 50% from the free throw line. Let's move on and try to find a real point guard.

You're right!!! We do need a good point guard. It wasn't a big loss - but still another loss. Maybe we can luck out and find a point guard as good as Samarco is - a really good junior College player would be great. I have to remind myself - - - think positive thoughts - - - at least until the next one heads for the revolving door. ( They have installed it by now, haven't they?)
positive thoughts

[bgsufalcon24]

Maybe the guys team should go watch the women's coach and practice and see that being tough on a player doesn't mean that the coach hates them. With all of the tough love articles about Curt Miller, you'd think he is worse then Dakich.

Exactly, but people on here don't want to acknowledge that.

Gee I wonder why not? It might have something to do with the fact that everybody on the women's team adores Miller, while just about everybody on the men's team deplores Dakich. It might have something to do with the fact that the women went 28-2 this season, and the men went 9-21. It might have something to do with the fact that the men's team has been ripped apart by transfers while the women have recruited and kept the best recruiting classes since the early 90s.

The point is, Curt Miller's system works almost to perfection, Dan Dakich's is not working. With the newest players leaving now, I can only pray that Krebs leaving is not the opening in which Dakich gets another year at BG. If Dakich is here next year, I think that we will not have another competitive men's basketball team at BG until I graduate out of here, and that isn't something I want to even think about.