Yet another possible vote on the Stroh Center???

[BGSU33]

Is this thing still ongoing????:

Even though the Stroh Center referendum vote is over, discussion continued during last night’s Undergraduate Student Government meeting regarding the voting process.

Two complaints were filed by students concerning the online vote. One complaint was about the word “fully” being included in the resolution.

The resolution that appeared on the ballot said “... the Undergraduate Student Government, representing the Student Body of Bowling Green State University, is fully supportive ...” The word “fully” was amended out of the ballot but appeared by mistake.

The issue was resolved, according to Chief Administrator Brandon Sallad and President John Waynick.

“The issue was a clerical one for which I will completely take the blame for,” Waynick said.
Despite the technical error, Sallad said it didn’t affect the meaning of the resolution.

The second complaint dealt with another technical problem which caused the online voting system to be out for 15 minutes. During this time students couldn’t vote, but Sallad said that this also did not have an effect on the voting period this past Friday.

“Students still had 23 hours and 45 minutes to vote, which we felt was sufficient time,” Sallad said.

Founding member of the Coalition for USG Reform Steve Currie shared his opinion regarding the marketing of the Stroh vote via a letter. He was unable to attend last night’s meeting due to illness. In the letter, Currie expressed his concern over some USG members not acting in what he called a professional manner. In the letter, Currie said he witnessed Academic Affairs Chair Kevin Basch and Vice President Sundeep Mutgi driving a golf cart carelessly while encouraging students to vote for the Stroh referendum.

Waynick responded to the accusations after the letter was read and said he would be calling Currie after the meeting to further react to his comments.

“I assure you that those accusations are hearsay,” Waynick said. “I see no real facts being made.”

Waynick then added that USG members work hard to represent students.

When students repeal a resolution in the future the way members of the coalition did for the Stroh Center, USG voted to enact some changes in the current constitution.

These additions to the constitution are to make the process of petitioning easier, said Internal Affairs Chair Leo Almeida.

“The goal of these new parts of the constitution are to be more student friendly,” Almeida said. “That way students who aren’t USG Constitutional savvy can write their petitions much easier with the guidance of the constitutional changes.”

Students will now have ten academic calendar days to file a petition against a resolution passed by USG. They will also have to schedule a meeting with the Procedures and Appeals Board within ten academic days of filing a petition. Once the petition is approved, students will have ten academic days to collect signatures and then submit those to the chief administrator.

The reason for this is to make sure those signatures and student identification numbers are valid, Almeida said.

Since several changes were made to the constitution last night, Proxy Senator Sean Lutzmann wanted to hold off on voting for the proposed changes and additions.

“This seems like a lot of information that students should have a chance to see and react to,” Lutzmann said.

Lutzmann proposed tabling voting on the proposed changes and additions but the motion was denied.

Once Vice President of Student Affairs Edward Whipple approves the changes USG made, students can see the new additions made to the constitution on the USG Web site.


http://www.bgviews.com/our-views/campus ... -1.1635447

[Ydfalcon]

In the letter, Currie said he witnessed Academic Affairs Chair Kevin Basch and Vice President Sundeep Mutgi driving a golf cart carelessly while encouraging students to vote for the Stroh referendum

Driving a golf cart carelessly? Oh no! Not that!!

Sheesh, nitpick much Mr. Currie?

[h2oville rocket]

“The issue was a clerical one for which I will completely take the blame for,” Waynick said.

Always a good idea to stick that preposition on the end of the sentence even if you've already used it earlier. I mean for what other purpose are they for?

[Lord_Byron]

. . .
The issue was resolved, according to Chief Administrator Brandon Sallad

Wasn't he at the basketball banquet with his friends tossed, pasta and fruit? Or was that Brandon Sald?



I know, salad only has one 'L", but I couldn't resist.

[h2oville rocket]

. . .
The issue was resolved, according to Chief Administrator Brandon Sallad

Wasn't he at the basketball banquet with his friends tossed, pasta and fruit? Or was that Brandon Sald?



I know, salad only has one 'L", but I couldn't resist.

LOL, How did I miss that - those kind of things are the stuff for which I live for.

[Chimie]

Wanna know the best part??


The illness that Steve Currie sites?






Was a Zombie Infection.




"Steve Currie : They will pay for the damage that they have done. They will pay for the families that they have parted and friendships that they have destroyed. They shall pay for turning good men and women against everything they once stood for. We shall fight them, and they shall perish. - [Your] Fearless Leader "


He's currently active in playing Zombies vs Humans, He was so preoccupied shooting nerf-guns that he couldn't attend the meeting where USG amended their constitution. Yet he is running for Arts & Science senator.


[EDIT] -- Seems like he's no longer running for A&S Senator.

The other candidate for the A&S senator is a USG reform party candidate. When I voted for USG, I wrote in "Micky Mouse."

God, him and Sean Lutzmann make me want to stab my eyes out.

[murphdogg]

First of all, I saw Mutgi and Basch riding around in the golf cart, and stopped and talked briefly with them. The vehicle was under control the whole time, and I hardly think that, even if they were driving recklessly, that is not grounds to throw out an election. Second, I have met Mr. Currie on several occasions, having been briefly a part of the College Democrats. I can tell you that he is the type of person who is happiest when he is unhappy. He has a major victim complex, and he was a major reason I decided to leave the College Dems.

A message to Stroh opponents and members of the Coalition for USG Reform:

This is what you wanted. You wanted the students to voice their opinions, and they did, and now you are trying to overturn those very voices you claim to champion. The Coalition tried to use this argument that USG was undemocratic, so they got the students to vote on it. The students rejected this very faintly disguised opposition to the Stroh Center, so they suddenly believe that a direct vote by the students was not democratic. You gambled, and you lost, now deal with it like adults instead of continuing to oppose this program that clearly has overwhelming popular and institutional support. Suck it up and accept defeat. You are a small and overly vocal minority, and you cannot continue to hijack the University's agenda. People are tired of hearing you complain about every little thing, just drop it and move on.

[murphdogg]

God, him and Sean Lutzmann make me want to stab my eyes out.

Sean Lutzmann is in one of my classes where we are doing a simulation of Congress. I voted against him for Majority Leader and thank God he lost. He gets on my nerves so much I probably would have switched parties just so I didn't have him as my leader (for the record, Leo Almeida is the Majority Leader in that class, and I respect him significantly more)

[BGSU33]

So in short, because of a word (“fully”),” 15 minutes and a golf cart - there could be yet another petition on this topic once again?

[TG1996]

So in short, because of a word (“fully”),” 15 minutes and a golf cart - there could be yet another petition on this topic once again?

No, because children can't let go that they lost, there could be yet another petition...

[Bleeding Orange]

So in short, because of a word (“fully”),” 15 minutes and a golf cart - there could be yet another petition on this topic once again? Is this actually going to occur yet another time?

I sincerely doubt it, and I think you are reading too much into the ravings of a lunatic. And, even if there was by some hurricane of wild circumstances another vote, the results would be exactly the same. There simply aren't enough students as bitter, hateful and delusional as this bald guy for such a 'reform' resolution to pass. Period.

In short, the sky is not falling, Chicken Little.

[BGSU33]

So in short, because of a word (“fully”),” 15 minutes and a golf cart - there could be yet another petition on this topic once again? Is this actually going to occur yet another time?

I sincerely doubt it, and I think you are reading too much into the ravings of a lunatic. And, even if there was by some hurricane of wild circumstances another vote, the results would be exactly the same. There simply aren't enough students as bitter, hateful and delusional as this bald guy for such a 'reform' resolution to pass. Period.

In short, the sky is not falling, Chicken Little.

My question isn’t dealing with panic, more of confusion and concern. Honestly, I don’t really understand all the levels this topic covers. But after USG approved the decision, then the students voted in favor of USG’s decision, how in the world can this topic still be in limbo?

[Bleeding Orange]

So in short, because of a word (“fully”),” 15 minutes and a golf cart - there could be yet another petition on this topic once again? Is this actually going to occur yet another time?

I sincerely doubt it, and I think you are reading too much into the ravings of a lunatic. And, even if there was by some hurricane of wild circumstances another vote, the results would be exactly the same. There simply aren't enough students as bitter, hateful and delusional as this bald guy for such a 'reform' resolution to pass. Period.

In short, the sky is not falling, Chicken Little.

My question isn’t dealing with panic, more of confusion and concern. Honestly, I don’t really understand all the levels this topic covers. But after USG approved the decision, then the students voted in favor of USG’s decision, how in the world can this topic still be in limbo?

I know, I was just giving you a hard time. Quite frankly, I don't think the topic is still in limbo. Even if these fringe kooks do try and foist another petition on the students, I think there is enough awareness now of what their motives are (that didn't exist when the initial petition was circulated) that I think they would struggle to meet the required number of signatures. And even if they did get them - and I could be wrong here - I don't believe USG has to allow another vote on the same resolution, unless it is clear that the first vote was flawed. Quite frankly, no matter what a handful of MoveOn members think, a golf cart and one word do not flaws make.

[BGSU33]

I guess what is confusing to me is, does the sentence "Students will now have ten academic calendar days to file a petition against a resolution passed by USG" apply to the Stroh Center topic again, or for future issues?

[USGFreddie05-06]

I guess what is confusing to me is, does the sentence "Students will now have ten academic calendar days to file a petition against a resolution passed by USG" apply to the Stroh Center topic again, or for future issues?

The 10 calender days language is what is currently being suggested as an amendment to the USG Constitution. Now, speaking with the experience of parsing through USG's constitution for most of my junior year, it is a poorly worded document and the section about student referenda (is that the right plural?) should be rewritten. What is now being proposed, assumed it is passed after the appropriate waiting period and approval of Dr. Whipple, is only for future votes. Quite frankly, I never thought I would see that section actually invoked.

The Stroh Center issue is final. The Resolution passed, and it was upheld in the student vote. There are no other mechanisms in the USG constitution for nullification of a vote.