Huger can't even manage a 30 point blowout

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If funding is the most significant issue, then why are you hiring like the schools that don't have those funding issues? Given the funding issues, in what world does Michael Huger's resume say he is worth 6 years at 325,000? No head coaching experience, most of his resume is under the same coach, and basic research would show that other Larranaga assistants have done very little to nothing as head coaches. I can figure that out using google in 5 minutes. The idea that he was worth the same contract as Jans at the time he was hired, is just wrong. So why didn't BG use the Jans situation to save some money if you were going to guess on a coach? Oh, because they were the same people who didn't see a potential problem when Jans wife wasn't moving to BG with him the first year. They are the same people who had to have seen him drinking in public well before the incident. And they are the same people who hired Mike Jinks. A coach who Bowling Green was willing to pay 2 million dollars to learn how to be a Division 1 coach. Sure, BG has funding issues, but the use of the funds they do have has been careless at best. Frack gave a donation to the program in hopes of BG being able to schedule better home games. His money was spent to get an Atlantic Sun Conference team to come to BG.
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GB68 wrote:The mantra "Wait 'til next year" seems like a bad joke. .
It’s not only the mantra for some people on here, it’s the new battle cry for BG! They say it every year, and it’s so popular that I’ve even heard that they want to change the lyrics of Ay Ziggy to the following:
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We all know what has happened with Frack's money. It hasn't gone to better games, or better coaches. It's gone to fund hoops so that they can take less money from the general fund than they would have otherwise taken. Rather than being used to improve the program, as Mr. Frack intended, I imagine it's merely allowed the program to continue its mediocrity while adding a few extra bucks to the football program.

As a kid who grewup watching BG baskeball, then had the pleasure of watching a damned good (yet still falling short) program during my HS & college years, this continued mediocrity is really starting to get old. They're very lucky that my 2 year old loves the games (Seriously, I don't think he fully understands that we're done for the year). If it weren't for him always begging for the games, I'm not sure I'd still keep re-upping tickets. It'll become an even more difficult decision as he gets older and starts being involved in his own activities... And let me tell ya, they are already VERY short on season ticket holders in my age demographic... The program better figure its s**t out pretty quickly or the attendance is gonna get even more ugly...
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Ultimatly it all goes back to winning consistently, but to me that is only part of the equation. I believe the department needs to look at how the team transitioned from Anderson to Stroh. I think we can all agree it was done poorly. For the product on the floor ticket prices are way too high. Maybe if we could string 4-5 years of 20+ win seasons and actually making it to Cleveland in March. But in my opinion they should be half of what they are. Paarking is even worse. I have been to 2 men's games this season and I use my fac/staff pass to park at Mileti. I refuse to park on the other side of Alumni drive when the parking lot is empty. Moving the student section to the end of the floor was another mistake. Even if seating would not allow students to be as close to the floor the noise can still be a factor. Below the rail should have been students and above season ticket holders or GA. Both ends should have been GA. We did to Stroh what we try to do every where which is concentrate on the "bells and whistles" instead of the basics of the experience. Until that is fixed, ticket sales in all revenue sports will suffer.
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Several 20 game winning seasons, beating Toledo and other top 20 teams, while flirting with the Top 25 regularly worked in the old new era (Memorial Hall, c. 1960). That along with playing in the NCAA Tournament a few times that decade is what generated a HUGE mass following during the 1960s and into the following decade.
If that were to occur again, things would change here dramatically, but probably be short lived. Sustaining that type of momentum seems to be more of a problem once a MAC school reaches those heights.
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GB68 wrote:when you consider the collapse of the football team as well, there now just seems to be no hope.
With respect to football, I have hope. Last year's team was very young. If we don't make some progress this season, then I'm going to be nervous. But what we've seen so far seems consistent with some terrible pre-Jinks recruiting classes coming back to bit us in the butt.

As far as the women's basketball team: At this point, it seems like we just have to bide our time for a new coach. Our AD certainly has plenty of time to beat the bushes and find us the next Curt Miller.

And, on Huger: Most of you are paying more attention than I am. It seems to me that we won quite a few close ones this season, raising expectations beyond where maybe they ought to have been. As I understand it, this is quite a young team. I'm certainly not ready to give up on Huger. But I'm more patient than some of you.
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Schadenfreude wrote:
GB68 wrote:when you consider the collapse of the football team as well, there now just seems to be no hope.

And, on Huger: Most of you are paying more attention than I am. It seems to me that we won quite a few close ones this season, raising expectations beyond where maybe they ought to have been. As I understand it, this is quite a young team. I'm certainly not ready to give up on Huger. But I'm more patient than some of you.

I would actually argue that winning the close games we won (specifically the several where we had to make comebacks from 15+ points) has made our current record look better than we actually are as a team.

And given that we played a ridiculously crappy OOC schedule, even that inflated record is below my preseason expectations for this team, regardless of youth. In basketball we see immediate impacts made across the league/country every year. Yeah, we're young, so you expect some ups & downs, but as the season has worn on the ups have gone away and it's been mostly downs. Also ending the regular season on a 5 game losing streak is a good recipe to have the overall impression of the year be pretty bad. Winning tonight, and winning a game at the Q would go a long ways towards changing the complexion of the season even if it ultimately means little.

I gave Huger until the end of his 3rd season before I was willing to say much negative, but now that we've gotten here, it's time to speak. This isn't football, you should see an impact much sooner. This is a sport where the best players in the country are typically Freshmen, hell OUR best player is a freshman. If they don't produce a legit contender next year it will absolutely be time to move on; of course we likely WON'T, but that's another issue.
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We are no longer a young team. We have played enough games where the freshman are now sophomores, sophmores now juniors and juniors now seniors. We have everybody returning next year except for Fox and now the student manager that I saw somehow dressed this past weekend and Huger could not even get him in for the last minute. Anything except winning the MAC East is unacceptable. I wouldn't necessarily say a MAC Championship because anybody could get hot over a week but there is no reason why we should not win the MAC East. MAC East or Huger must go. Maybe the Lillard from 2 years ago will reappear during the tournament tonight.
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hammb wrote: I would actually argue that winning the close games we won (specifically the several where we had to make comebacks from 15+ points) has made our current record look better than we actually are as a team.
Well said. I agree.
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