Horrible non conference schedule

[OSUFALCON]

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They play like 4 D2 or D3 schools at home. Terrible waste of money for season ticket holders. I can’t believe they couldn’t do better than this.

[mbenecke]

11/3 vs. Texas State
11/6 vs. Bethany College
11/9 vs. Lemoyne
11/15 @ Davidson
11/19 vs. William & Mary
11/24 vs. Bucknell (Fort Myers Tipoff)
11/26 vs. VMI (Fort Myers Tipoff)
12/1 @ Kansas State
12/6 vs. Utah Valley
12/7 vs. Aquinas College
12/16 vs. Chicago State
12/22 vs. Siena Heights

There are 2 exhibitions at the start of the year, @ Michigan State and @ Dayton. And there will also be the February 7 Sun Belt Challenge a game.

[mbenecke]

Simon gave a quote that it was a priority to schedule more home games than normal with conference play creeping forward into December. 17 home games this year, compared to 16 home games last year.

He also pointed out that they feel like they are challenging themselves with the exhibitions against Michigan State and Dayton, as well as a road trip to Kansas State.

Texas State is going to the PAC-12 in a year or two. Utah Valley won 25 games and won the WAC last year. William & Mary had a winning record. Bucknell and VMI in a mid-major tournament is decent. All 5 were ahead of us in the Kenpom last year.

I can't defend Bethany College, Lemoyne, or Aquinas College. But the rest mostly makes sense, I guess.

[Flipper]

Last chance to see Siena Heights...they are closing the college after the 25/26 academic year

[BGFalconfromCincy]

Simon gave a quote that it was a priority to schedule more home games than normal with conference play creeping forward into December. 17 home games this year, compared to 16 home games last year.

He also pointed out that they feel like they are challenging themselves with the exhibitions against Michigan State and Dayton, as well as a road trip to Kansas State.

Texas State is going to the PAC-12 in a year or two. Utah Valley won 25 games and won the WAC last year. William & Mary had a winning record. Bucknell and VMI in a mid-major tournament is decent. All 5 were ahead of us in the Kenpom last year.

I can't defend Bethany College, Lemoyne, or Aquinas College. But the rest mostly makes sense, I guess.

Switch Lemoyne out with Siena Heights. While it's a school most haven't heard of and it hasn't been D1 for long (this will be its third D1 season), it's still a D1 school and not an NAIA school that's closing at the end of the school year

[mbenecke]

Missed them on Kenpom, and that's because they're listed as Le Moyne, not Lemoyne.

Forgot about Siena Heights because it's AFTER we have started conference play against Ohio. What a weird setup.

[ZuluWarrior]

Same old, same old - completely uninspiring non-conference schedule. Seems like the same week-ass non-conf every year since we moved to the Stroh.

[guest44]

Once again where is the Frack money going? If they can't use it toward NIL (I've been told they cannot) then it clearly is not going toward men's basketball. The gear they get is complete crap, from both coaches to players, and they don't even get all the shoes anymore. Where is the Frack money going?

[hammb]

Missed them on Kenpom, and that's because they're listed as Le Moyne, not Lemoyne.

Forgot about Siena Heights because it's AFTER we have started conference play against Ohio. What a weird setup.

Safe bet the Siena Heights game will end up being the traditional Christmas break weekday noon game that nobody can attend.

I know I've complained with others off this site already, but these OOC schedules are just awful. Our season ticket bill is due, and I don't really know if I'm going to renew. Now that I've got my kid's commitments and everything I don't know that it's worth it to bend over to get to all of these games. I know we for sure don't get $600+ in entertainment value for these games.

[pdt1081]

I know I've complained with others off this site already, but these OOC schedules are just awful. Our season ticket bill is due, and I don't really know if I'm going to renew. Now that I've got my kid's commitments and everything I don't know that it's worth it to bend over to get to all of these games. I know we for sure don't get $600+ in entertainment value for these games.

The $40 is worth it fir the kid to be in the Falcon Kids Club. Attend 3 or more games, and you're money ahead on him. Then pick and choose which games, and sports, you want to attend. Kid's covered for all sports that way.

[hammb]

I know I've complained with others off this site already, but these OOC schedules are just awful. Our season ticket bill is due, and I don't really know if I'm going to renew. Now that I've got my kid's commitments and everything I don't know that it's worth it to bend over to get to all of these games. I know we for sure don't get $600+ in entertainment value for these games.

The $40 is worth it fir the kid to be in the Falcon Kids Club. Attend 3 or more games, and you're money ahead on him. Then pick and choose which games, and sports, you want to attend. Kid's covered for all sports that way.

Yes, if I don't want to sit in our reserved seats that I've had for years. Obviously most games it wouldn't matter, but there are usually a couple that we'd have to sit elsewhere. Still may go that route.

[jpfalcon09]

Once again where is the Frack money going? If they can't use it toward NIL (I've been told they cannot) then it clearly is not going toward men's basketball. The gear they get is complete crap, from both coaches to players, and they don't even get all the shoes anymore. Where is the Frack money going?

The endowment generates $675K annually for the program. My guess is it's going towards coaching salaries and other related expenses (i.e. recruiting) since it's off limits for NIL. Unfortunate the university isn't more transparent about where the money is being used, especially since its true intent was to attract higher quality opponents to visit Stroh.

[guest44]

Once again where is the Frack money going? If they can't use it toward NIL (I've been told they cannot) then it clearly is not going toward men's basketball. The gear they get is complete crap, from both coaches to players, and they don't even get all the shoes anymore. Where is the Frack money going?

The endowment generates $675K annually for the program. My guess is it's going towards coaching salaries and other related expenses (i.e. recruiting) since it's off limits for NIL. Unfortunate the university isn't more transparent about where the money is being used, especially since its true intent was to attract higher quality opponents to visit Stroh.

BGSU probably has no idea what it is being used for otherwise they would try to tell you. It's just a photo op once a year in orange blazers. Once the Bill Frack game transitioned to a MAC contest you knew it wasn't being used right.

[hammb]

Once again where is the Frack money going? If they can't use it toward NIL (I've been told they cannot) then it clearly is not going toward men's basketball. The gear they get is complete crap, from both coaches to players, and they don't even get all the shoes anymore. Where is the Frack money going?

The endowment generates $675K annually for the program. My guess is it's going towards coaching salaries and other related expenses (i.e. recruiting) since it's off limits for NIL. Unfortunate the university isn't more transparent about where the money is being used, especially since its true intent was to attract higher quality opponents to visit Stroh.

BGSU probably has no idea what it is being used for otherwise they would try to tell you. It's just a photo op once a year in orange blazers. Once the Bill Frack game transitioned to a MAC contest you knew it wasn't being used right.

I haven't taken the time to look recently. It's a pointless endeavor.

I do know that during a lot of the Huger years the Frack money was likely being spent on basketball. We routinely had among the highest Men's Basketball expenditures in the MAC. Well at least that was the case by the audit numbers that were on the state of Ohio website.

Typically we had large recruiting, travel, equipment, etc expenses. I'm sure we continue to pay our coaches above average in the MAC as well.

But we can all say unequivocally the idea of using that money towards improving the quality of home OOC opponents has gone completely by the wayside. Mr. Frack's vision of that money being able to move the needle to make BG the next BUtler or Gonzaga is also long gone.

At this point it's obvious the money isn't going to do any of that. It's always fair to ask if it's being used correctly on things that will truly move the needle on winning. I thought there was rumor this past offseason that they may have been able to use some on NIL? IF so that's the obvious place you could improve our odds of winning ASAP. Either way, I think we have a long enough history here to know the budget doesn't even matter for this program. They'll probably win a MAC title someday, most of us old enough to use this website will probably not see that day.

[guest44]

Once again where is the Frack money going? If they can't use it toward NIL (I've been told they cannot) then it clearly is not going toward men's basketball. The gear they get is complete crap, from both coaches to players, and they don't even get all the shoes anymore. Where is the Frack money going?

The endowment generates $675K annually for the program. My guess is it's going towards coaching salaries and other related expenses (i.e. recruiting) since it's off limits for NIL. Unfortunate the university isn't more transparent about where the money is being used, especially since its true intent was to attract higher quality opponents to visit Stroh.

BGSU probably has no idea what it is being used for otherwise they would try to tell you. It's just a photo op once a year in orange blazers. Once the Bill Frack game transitioned to a MAC contest you knew it wasn't being used right.

I haven't taken the time to look recently. It's a pointless endeavor.

I do know that during a lot of the Huger years the Frack money was likely being spent on basketball. We routinely had among the highest Men's Basketball expenditures in the MAC. Well at least that was the case by the audit numbers that were on the state of Ohio website.

Typically we had large recruiting, travel, equipment, etc expenses. I'm sure we continue to pay our coaches above average in the MAC as well.

But we can all say unequivocally the idea of using that money towards improving the quality of home OOC opponents has gone completely by the wayside. Mr. Frack's vision of that money being able to move the needle to make BG the next BUtler or Gonzaga is also long gone.

At this point it's obvious the money isn't going to do any of that. It's always fair to ask if it's being used correctly on things that will truly move the needle on winning. I thought there was rumor this past offseason that they may have been able to use some on NIL? IF so that's the obvious place you could improve our odds of winning ASAP. Either way, I think we have a long enough history here to know the budget doesn't even matter for this program. They'll probably win a MAC title someday, most of us old enough to use this website will probably not see that day.

As of late Spring they said the money could not be used in NIL. I assume that is still true. More recently the staff and players are getting even less in terms of gear and shoes. I have no idea if it is true, but someone even mentioned the cost of coaches gear coming out of the coaches pay. If you aren't football or baseball in DVDM land, you are secondary.