BG Wins! If they come out of the locker room????

[Dayons_Den]

Hindsight is 20/20 and doubleguessing is for armchari quarterbacks, but. .


What do we have to gain by leaving in a hastly manner? What is the worst case scenario if we stick around and calmly shake hands?

[San Diego Falcon]

"Since Bowling Green had left the floor before the game had ended, a technical foul was assessed."

Interesting that they left out the part about the referee leaving the floor right along with them.

If the refs were so thin-skinned that they felt the need to give Dakich a technical, then why weren't they at least consistent in that regard and give the Buffalo coach a technical for hitting the buzzer over and over (I'm fairly sure that a coach isn't allowed to do that during a game).

[BleedOrange]

This is interesting, from the UB write-up on the game:

"Since Bowling Green had left the floor before the game had ended, a technical foul was assessed."


http://www.ubathletics.buffalo.edu/mens ... bgsu.shtml

So the T wasn't for how long they were in the locker room, but because they went there at all? The wording could be attributed to a misinformed author or semantics, I suppose, but if this is the official reason they were T'd, it eliminates any question on if it was BS.

If anyone has connections in Buffalo, the game is being replayed on Time Warner cable throughout the weekend (see bottom of linked article)

Everything in politics and in the popular news media is basically bullshit. Everything. (This is one of my basic conclusions about the world.) This is yet another example, although small. Take what you read in any newspaper with a truckload of salt, especially when it's written by a local redneck.

By the way, the referrees were DJ Carstense, Ken Turner, and Kevin O'Connell.

[HoustonFalcon]

BO, you are absolutely correct. Too many officials have too much ego, and any time you question them, they never admit to being wrong. I have heard "coach I missed that one" only a few times, and it trully is getting worse.

[orangeandbrown]

Hindsight is 20/20 and doubleguessing is for armchari quarterbacks, but. .


What do we have to gain by leaving in a hastly manner? What is the worst case scenario if we stick around and calmly shake hands?

As someone else alluded to, (maybe you, in fact), that seems to be how they are taught. However, the answer is nothing. Which makes me think we left the floor because we thought the game was over.

[BleedOrange]

Hindsight is 20/20 and doubleguessing is for armchari quarterbacks, but. .


What do we have to gain by leaving in a hastly manner? What is the worst case scenario if we stick around and calmly shake hands?

The question that matters is this: Why can't simply walk off of the floor when the game is over? Is it reasonble to expect teams to hang the court after 0:00 around "just in case"? IMO, this kind of hyper-caution is unreasonable.

The refs look to be the jackasses in this situation.

[Falconboy]

I always thought that Mac officials hate BG or Dan Dakich for some reason, as stupid at that might sound , crap like this makes it seem alot more believable.

Wow, a new low for MAC officiating.

[Redwingtom]

i'm just curious to why any of you would argue a technical isn't deserved in that case. I'd have Dakich fired by phone on the bus ride home after acting like that.

BECAUSE THE SCREW UP WAS EITHER THE OFFICIAL'S OR THE BUFFALO HOME SCOREBOARD OPERATOR, NOT BG's. They should have been given ample time to return to the floor.

Now if BG refused to return to the court in some type of protest, then the T is certainly warranted.

[Jham]

This is interesting, from the UB write-up on the game:

"Since Bowling Green had left the floor before the game had ended, a technical foul was assessed."


http://www.ubathletics.buffalo.edu/mens ... bgsu.shtml

So the T wasn't for how long they were in the locker room, but because they went there at all? The wording could be attributed to a misinformed author or semantics, I suppose, but if this is the official reason they were T'd, it eliminates any question on if it was BS.

If anyone has connections in Buffalo, the game is being replayed on Time Warner cable throughout the weekend (see bottom of linked article)

Everything in politics and in the popular news media is basically bullshit. Everything. (This is one of my basic conclusions about the world.) This is yet another example, although small. Take what you read in any newspaper with a truckload of salt, especially when it's written by a local redneck.

By the way, the referrees were DJ Carstense, Ken Turner, and Kevin O'Connell.

The bolded portion is why I love this site, the media bashing. You know, don't you, that the article cited is from the UB athletics site, written BY THEIR STAFF, don't you?

Get a clue.

[Warthog]

It would have to be a catch and shoot with .6 left. BUT, BG had the ball, so Buffalo would have to foul BG, or if the stole it, there is no way they could get a catch and shoot from the point where they would get the steal.

This is what I figured at first, but remember that the ball would be inbounded under UB's basket. It would have to be a HORRIBLE pass, but catching and shooting is still somewhat feasible.

Any coach worth his salt would know to just send all four of his players into the front court and heave the ball down court. Even if UB gets the pass, they are "catching and shooting" from past half court. Quite simply, there is no way we lose that game without referee intervention.

[TG1996]

The media is made up of upstanding, charming individuals who deserve better pay and hours.

That is all.




Oh, and to O&B's comment... I guess you could see it that way, but it seems like the discussion is about the timeliness of the return, not that they left at all. It could just as easily be written "BG was assessed a T for not returning to the floor in a timely manner" and not put a negative spin on UB's win. But you're right, without seeing any other quotes (UB didn't even have Witherspoon quotes on their site, I can't imagine Dan did much of a media session.) its probably all semantics.

[Dayons_Den]

Any coach worth his salt would know to just send all four of his players into the front court and heave the ball down court. Even if UB gets the pass, they are "catching and shooting" from past half court. Quite simply, there is no way we lose that game without referee intervention.

Not neccesarily a good strategy, and I"ll tell you why. If you heave it and none of the players on the floor touch it and the ball goes out of bounds no time would have elapsed and UB would get the ball from the spot BG was inbounding from and have a chance to get a tip in. You see this sometimes when teams send a guy running deep and he can't get to the ball, the ball is overthrown, he slips, a defender gets in the way- whatever the reason he can't chase it down. The risk of giving the other team the ball under the bucket they are attacking is too high to do that . . . (in my opinion. . . )

[Warthog]

Did anybody happen to catch 'Friday Night Lights' tonight? It had a strange parallel to the UB game. My son was watching and I just caught this part: 2nd round playoff game, apparently the opponent is playing dirty. Dillon scored a TD to go ahead late in the third. Opponent tackles the RB way late in the back of the end zone. RB does nothing but the guy who tackled him keeps mouthing off until the Dillon FB clocks him. Massive brawl ensues. Both teams go to the locker rooms while the officials sort it out. Finally, the state (?) official tells both coaches they are calling the game and declaring Dillon the winner since they were ahead. Here's where it parallels our game. Coach is screaming at the players about their behavior, finally tells them the game is over and they are declared the winner, so get out of here, right now. No showers, grab your stuff, we are leaving!

[Warthog]

Any coach worth his salt would know to just send all four of his players into the front court and heave the ball down court. Even if UB gets the pass, they are "catching and shooting" from past half court. Quite simply, there is no way we lose that game without referee intervention.

Not neccesarily a good strategy, and I"ll tell you why. If you heave it and none of the players on the floor touch it and the ball goes out of bounds no time would have elapsed and UB would get the ball from the spot BG was inbounding from and have a chance to get a tip in. You see this sometimes when teams send a guy running deep and he can't get to the ball, the ball is overthrown, he slips, a defender gets in the way- whatever the reason he can't chase it down. The risk of giving the other team the ball under the bucket they are attacking is too high to do that . . . (in my opinion. . . )

Maybe 'heave' wasn't the right word. Throw it way high in the air, like a pop up, so you make sure it can't go out of bounds untouched. Hell, you could probably just roll the ball in. They couldn't possibly pick it up off the ground and shoot it in 0.6 secs.

[Dayons_Den]

Wow, rolling the ball. In all seriousness, that is something I really have never thought of, but it would be a seemingly "good" strategy. . .