Chris Jans Fired

[guest44]

The Joe Tiller name drop and the girl who had to include herself in every media report basically handed out a potential defense. The reaction was basically thrown in your face as you were trying to get information. I mean it seemed they were almost seeking credit for it initially.

[CrazyFan]

When someone is being an a$$ in a bar most people either talk to the staff or leave. The Tiller family made themselves bigger victims than they needed to in this situation. If Jans isn't the out of control drunk (by all accounts) then these people have nothing to use against him. Unfortunately the way people are someone was going to record and document his behavior that night or on another night because he was about to build a reputation if he didn't have one already. And simply, that's not the reputation we want one of our head coaches to have at BGSU.

Headline for the story seems to be "A Drunken A$$ encounters a group of A$$es." The drunk A$$ had more to lose and got what he deserved. Karma is a mean old lady and when the Tiller family encounters her they'll pay for inciting the drunk further and gloating.

That’s my point. Is Jans at fault. Yes. Did he deserves to be fired……….in today’s society, with the power of social media and how sensitive people are these days, yes he deserved to be fired. But I bet if this would have happened 10 years ago it wouldn’t be such a big deal. Saying all that, what he did was wrong and he deserved to be punished.

My problem, other than Jans comments and behavior, is the behavior of the Tiller family. You’re in a bar at what, 1am? What do you think is going to happen? There’s going to be a bunch of church mouses, running around, behaving themselves? From everything I am reading, Jans had absolutely NO interaction with this family before this incident occurred. He wasn’t talking to them nor was he directing any comments toward them. He was minding his own business. If he was bothering the family with his actions, why didn’t they just leave or grab a member of management? What if this was just a normal adult male that didn’t have the notoriety that Jans had, would the girl still have approached him like she did Jans? In my opinion, she did that to create a scene, be self-righteous, and contribute to the GOTCHA moment that has transpired here. The Tiller family’s intentions all along were to make this into the huge deal it has become. That’s why Mr. Tiller name dropped and threatened Kingston in the email correspondences and that’s why multiple family members gloated and took credit for Jans being fired on twitter, then hid everything once they were discovered.

I’m glad Kingston acted so quickly and he made the right move in today’s society and expectations. But I hope some retribution falls back on the Tiller family for being so vindictive about everything, especially with Mr. Tiller being an alumnus. Jans will land back on his feet. He’s a great coach, who made a mistake, but if the Tiller family would have minded their own business and properly notified a manager or just remove themselves from the situation, things could have been handled a lot differently.

[factman]

[Dayons_Den]

Except by slapping ass and loudly calling women bitch Jans was most certainly not minding anything let alone his business.

[Flipper]

The only person who doesn't look bad in this entire, pathetic episode is Chris Kingston...and the woman whose ass Jans slapped.

[hammb]

The only person who doesn't look bad in this entire, pathetic episode is Chris Kingston...and the woman whose ass Jans slapped.

This. A bunch of asses making asses of themselves. One ass with the most public persona and the most to lose lost it, but they're all asses.

Still happy with Kingston and hoping we can find a coach with the talent of Jans who won't be an ass.

[OSUFALCON]

Well the Tiller boy in the Brathaus tonight over heard talking about the Jans issues and firing. He might consider transferring. Go somewhere mommy and daddy can visit more often.

[CrazyFan]

Well the Tiller boy in the Brathaus tonight over heard talking about the Jans issues and firing. He might consider transferring. Go somewhere mommy and daddy can visit more often.

Was there anyone secretly cell phone taping him as he was minding his own business?

[Globetrotter]

I'm having a tough time with this one due to the nature of the situation and probably the fact that Jan's was a great coach and made his own bed here. However I find it really difficult to see people say I'm glad he was fired because it preserves bgs name and that's not how we do things at bg. So is how we do things at bg we love you until you make a mistake at which point we dont come together as a community to help you through your issues we try to get as far away from you as possible as quickly as possible? No one made Jan's drink but if he has a drinking problem i hate to fire him and not help him. Seems like the good thing to do would be to help him. Then you add the layers of him making college aged girls here feel uncomfortable (I can't think of a better way to say that but thst wording certainly lessens what actually happened). We are in a tough spot but I don't universally applaud the university.

[CrazyFan]

I'm having a tough time with this one due to the nature of the situation and probably the fact that Jan's was a great coach and made his own bed here. However I find it really difficult to see people say I'm glad he was fired because it preserves bgs name and that's not how we do things at bg. So is how we do things at bg we love you until you make a mistake at which point we dont come together as a community to help you through your issues we try to get as far away from you as possible as quickly as possible? No one made Jan's drink but if he has a drinking problem i hate to fire him and not help him. Seems like the good thing to do would be to help him. Then you add the layers of him making college aged girls here feel uncomfortable (I can't think of a better way to say that but thst wording certainly lessens what actually happened). We are in a tough spot but I don't universally applaud the university.

Unfortunately its a bad situation for all; for Jans, for his family, for the University and for the Tillers. The university did what it had to do. The situation that happened was beyond the level where you say that coach can keep his job as long as he goes through some type of counseling/rehab. Had we kept him, the pressure that would have been put on the university and athletic department by individuals inside and outside of the university would have bee enormous. There wouldn't have been many people calling for the community to rally around him because it was too volatile of a situation. Best to get out in front of it before any more bridges are burnt. The Orr era did its fair share and everyone else's fair share of burning bridges. There was a chance for that too happen however, if the Tiller's would have minded their own business that night. If they would have walked away from the situation or even got management involved, they could have still brought the matter to the attention of Kingston/Athletic Department and the "help" could have been forced upon Jans and he could of kept his job. But they had to be in the spotlight, turn on their cell phone recorder, and be the self-righteous hero's of BGSU and personally approach Jans and scold him on his behavior. I wonder if they all piled in the family van on the way home and blared David Bowie's "We could be Hero's" on the repeat cycle that night............

[guest44]

Well it looks like the Tiller credibility continues to shrink. A Toledo reporter is no longer following, a member of the Tiller party that night, on Twitter.

[CrazyFan]

Well it looks like the Tiller credibility continues to shrink. A Toledo reporter is no longer following, a member of the Tiller party that night, on Twitter.

The Toledo Reporter I'm assuming your talking about is Jordan Strack. I noticed that also. He started following "a member of the Tiller party" 3 days ago and said that he talked to the family. We haven't heard a word of "news reporting" from that discussion. All of a sudden 3 days later, out of 887 people he was following, he unfollows only her. Maybe trying to distance himself from a situation that's becoming volatile? Maybe, just maybe, because he's from the same hometown as the Tillers, he doesn't want to investigate this any further and divulge any information that he has found out, like the Tiller family having an agenda in this whole thing? Because an agenda opens the door for lawsuits...........

[Hdog]

This has become a very interesting conversation. It is amazing the amount of different viewpoints on acceptable public behavior of a person who we look to for leadership. I think we are all very frustrated, angry, and disappointed with this situation. I felt like I was blindsided with the force of a full speed Linebacker ‘earhole’ hit.

A couple of points to respectively counter what you’re saying CrazyFan – I do not find any fault with the Tiller family for confronting Jans, video-taping him, and then contacting Chris Kingston. As a fellow BG alum, I hope we all would’ve done the same or similar thing. The head basketball coach is held to a much higher standard than anyone of us is [much different than a “normal adult male” – your words]. Jans needed to be called out and held accountable for his deplorable behavior. I applaud the Tiller family for approaching Jans. Jans didn’t react very well when put on the spot – very arrogant reaction by him in my opinion.

In one of your posts you seem to excuse Jans behavior, explaining this is the kind of normal behavior seen in bars at 1 am. You say the Tillers should have just left if they were offended. NO. I don’t agree. I don’t think the Tillers were offended by the over- the- line behavior as much as by the fact it was coming from the Head Basketball coach. It seems to me the Tillers are smart enough to recognize people come to a bar to blow off some steam while having a few drinks. They wouldn’t have been out at that hour if they didn’t like that kind of environment.

This story never gets to this point if Jans is just out enjoying the evening with a few drinks – under control. In fact, he may have made a few more friends of the program by being out in public hanging out. He just took it too far over the line when he lost control of himself and his behavior.

Even with all the drama, I still think this could have been salvaged and Jans could have kept his job. That’s why I don’t believe this was an isolated incident. My gut tells me there was trouble brewing to some degree with this guy. I have no evidence to support this. Just a feeling the guy may have been a bit abrasive.

I didn’t see the Tiller emails the same way as you did. I didn’t see any “threat” given. I saw someone who was embarrassed for BGSU and for Jans. That’s how I read it - more disappointment than “GOTCHA” as you say.

The one bad thing is the Tiller kids tweeting out their feelings after Jans was fired. That was very poor taste on their part. However, I don’t think the parents [BG Alums] did any gloating.

Anyway, I have gone from being pissed at Jans to being very disappointed with him and for the university. What a negative turn of events after a very very good season and positive momentum for the program! This just plain sucks!!

But – I think good leaders rise to the occasion. I think Kingston will meet this challenge and we’ll be just fine moving forward.

[gmartin]

If BG had just won the NIT tournament and Jans just got into town from NYC and that's how he celebrates would things been different? Are things different with how the season came to an end? I don't think so. I have no issues with the Tillers.

[unfalconbelievable]

Who cares how the people reported this are acting... They are not the victims of this. Many of us would have stood by and been innocent bystanders and got a good laugh and told people the story. I applaud these people for taking a stand. The basketball staff obviously wasn't looking out for him others might as well. The action was wrong and a dismissible offense. Too many people would have stood by and watched and that's what's wrong with a lot of things today, people are afraid to cry foul when a foul has occurred. Mostly because of trolls out there and some of you are them, lurking on twitter accounts and following retweets, they become the victims for what telling someone they are out of line. I have no clue who these people are and don't care, but this kind of activity would have come out eventually. If you are reading this Thank you for reporting his to AD Kingston. As a Falcon Club member and season ticket holder to multiple sports this only makes our athletic department stronger. Let's not forget why he was dismissed. THAT'S THE ISSUE.