2018-2019 Postseason Recruiting

[JohnFloyd4Life]

Redshirt Mattos. We should have redshirted Gadsen last year.

[Globetrotter]

Redshirt Mattos. We should have redshirted Gadsen last year.

I am not sure redshirting freshman happens all that much any more.
1) If they turn out good and are redshirt juniors they just grad transfer
2) Injuries often happen. better to have a redshirt to burn then
3) It's not as if Gadsen has that position on lock down. One of the 2 will be starting in 2019-2020. Getting some minutes, even just a few, will help.

[Globetrotter]

Still lots of talent out there. Hope we are trying to fill a wing/guard spot still. Could use the depth.

[BillyLP]

DePaul PG Justin Roberts announced he is transferring last weekend. I had season tix for DePaul this year (got my master's from there) and this guy is a real talent. Out of Indianapolis and was frustrated with his lack of playing time/short leash from the coach. Would love to see Huger go after him. He would be a star in the MAC.

[gmartin]

DePaul PG Justin Roberts announced he is transferring last weekend. I had season tix for DePaul this year (got my master's from there) and this guy is a real talent. Out of Indianapolis and was frustrated with his lack of playing time/short leash from the coach. Would love to see Huger go after him. He would be a star in the MAC.

Rumors down here in Indy are he more than likely will end up at IUPUI, which is only miles from his home. Also been stated he may try as a walk-on at Butler. Don't understand the walk on thing for Butler because he still would need to sit out this year ubless maybe Butler used up all its scholorships already for 2019.

[BillyLP]

DePaul PG Justin Roberts announced he is transferring last weekend. I had season tix for DePaul this year (got my master's from there) and this guy is a real talent. Out of Indianapolis and was frustrated with his lack of playing time/short leash from the coach. Would love to see Huger go after him. He would be a star in the MAC.

Rumors down here in Indy are he more than likely will end up at IUPUI, which is only miles from his home. Also been stated he may try as a walk-on at Butler. Don't understand the walk on thing for Butler because he still would need to sit out this year ubless maybe Butler used up all its scholorships already for 2019.

I'd be really surprised if he went to Butler since it's another Big East school. Usually players are restricted from going to schools within conference, no?

I could definitely see him killing it at IUPUI. He's really quick and a very pure scorer. The Horizon League has produced a few guys who fit that mold (Norris Cole, Kay Felder, and DaShaun Wood come to mind). But it sure would be fun to have Roberts, Turner and Frye as the guards.

[gmartin]

DePaul PG Justin Roberts announced he is transferring last weekend. I had season tix for DePaul this year (got my master's from there) and this guy is a real talent. Out of Indianapolis and was frustrated with his lack of playing time/short leash from the coach. Would love to see Huger go after him. He would be a star in the MAC.

Rumors down here in Indy are he more than likely will end up at IUPUI, which is only miles from his home. Also been stated he may try as a walk-on at Butler. Don't understand the walk on thing for Butler because he still would need to sit out this year ubless maybe Butler used up all its scholorships already for 2019.

I'd be really surprised if he went to Butler since it's another Big East school. Usually players are restricted from going to schools within conference, no?

I could definitely see him killing it at IUPUI. He's really quick and a very pure scorer. The Horizon League has produced a few guys who fit that mold (Norris Cole, Kay Felder, and DaShaun Wood come to mind). But it sure would be fun to have Roberts, Turner and Frye as the guards.

Dakich went from Michigan to Ohio State. Maybe that's the reason why they said walk on at Butler. Maybe DePaul would hold up his release if Butler were to offer him a scholorship.

[Globetrotter]

Do you think this coaching staff knows that we have 13 potential scholarships or maybe they have just always assumed it was 12 and no one has told them.

[fredthefalcon]

Do you think this coaching staff knows that we have 13 potential scholarships or maybe they have just always assumed it was 12 and no one has told them.

Pretty odd for the long run. Almost seems like it could be directed by someone in the Department. I did check the other MAC schools and really only Miami has a scholarship available. Buffalo and Akron do as well but that is because of recent transfers. Awhile ago I looked at each team's stats from last year to ascertain what the player with the 13th most minutes contributed. Very little and many of those 13th players were in fact walk-ons. There likely were redshirts on the rosters that also impacted walkons being involved as much as they were. Just an FYI.

[Globetrotter]

Do you think this coaching staff knows that we have 13 potential scholarships or maybe they have just always assumed it was 12 and no one has told them.

Pretty odd for the long run. Almost seems like it could be directed by someone in the Department. I did check the other MAC schools and really only Miami has a scholarship available. Buffalo and Akron do as well but that is because of recent transfers. Awhile ago I looked at each team's stats from last year to ascertain what the player with the 13th most minutes contributed. Very little and many of those 13th players were in fact walk-ons. There likely were redshirts on the rosters that also impacted walkons being involved as much as they were. Just an FYI.

The way that I view it is that life and college basketball is mostly planned happenstance. You put yourself in good positions and hope for luck. That 13th signed player signed doesnt often end up the 13th best player. We assumed Koch and Cummings would be good and stick around. Happenstance happened. A major part of all of it is outlasting the next guy because if you stick around you are likely building skills. If I were a head coach not only would I use my 13th scholarship but I would use the fact that we have given walkons roles like Fox and try to get preferred walk ons who could make moves.

What I cannot believe is that in 2016-2017 a season was basically ruined because we had no bigs. And we didn't learn from it and fill out our roster.

[BleedOrange]

Globe, giving scholshp #13 late is a special risk. The available talent is THIN and you must prudently assume a 4-YEAR COMMITMENT. Per Fred's post, #13 won't contribute the 1st year, and the program foregoes recruits in years 2, 3, and 4 while the committed to a subpar D1 talent. So, I'd rather have #13 available for a good player who by happenstance suddenly comes available.

[Globetrotter]

Globe, giving scholshp #13 late is a special risk. The available talent is THIN and you must prudently assume a 4-YEAR COMMITMENT. Per Fred's post, #13 won't contribute the 1st year, and the program foregoes recruits in years 2, 3, and 4 while the committed to a subpar D1 talent. So, I'd rather have #13 available for a good player who by happenstance suddenly comes available.

We have done that 4 years in a row. Otherwise your argument would make sense.

[BleedOrange]

Globe, giving scholshp #13 late is a special risk. The available talent is THIN and you must prudently assume a 4-YEAR COMMITMENT. Per Fred's post, #13 won't contribute the 1st year, and the program foregoes recruits in years 2, 3, and 4 while the committed to a subpar D1 talent. So, I'd rather have #13 available for a good player who by happenstance suddenly comes available.

We have done that 4 years in a row. Otherwise your argument would make sense.

Globe, my argument does make sense. Because we've done that, we haven't had guys like James Erger sitting on our roster (signed in mid summer), so we were able to get some good JC transfers this spring. See?

[Globetrotter]

Globe, giving scholshp #13 late is a special risk. The available talent is THIN and you must prudently assume a 4-YEAR COMMITMENT. Per Fred's post, #13 won't contribute the 1st year, and the program foregoes recruits in years 2, 3, and 4 while the committed to a subpar D1 talent. So, I'd rather have #13 available for a good player who by happenstance suddenly comes available.

We have done that 4 years in a row. Otherwise your argument would make sense.

Globe, my argument does make sense. Because we've done that, we haven't had guys like James Erger sitting on our roster (signed in mid summer), so we were able to get some good JC transfers this spring. See?

We have one more spot open. Still could have had those JC Transfers. You are making an assumption that we would get an Erger instead of a Lillard or Wiggins (both later signees). I could give you a list of 10 guys in an hour of research who have potential to develop. Go after the best one with the best grades and/or least chance to shakeup your chemistry and call it a day. Just fill the roster and let it shake out.

[BleedOrange]

Lillard and Wiggins were spring signees, yeah, and they were known to be good players recruited by numerous schools. We didn't sign them just to fill the roster. It's very easy to throw scarce scholarships at mediocre talent.