I guess this makes it OFFICIAL!!!
In brighter news, it's great to see that Otis Polk's signing is official now! And it'll be really interesting to see what Hamblet brings to the table...
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orangeandbrown
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Hamblet running some point
In the article DD mentions Hamblet at point. This is intriguing, a 6'6" PG against the small MAC PG's. Could be a very effect passer, able to see & hit the cutters, freeing up Samarco for the three.
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Hey guys, let's go easy on the Chris Knight thing. Every guy is an individual, and it's not like we know the details about his academics.
Sometimes, you have to take a risk to get big talent, especially in BG's situation. I don't blame DD so much for this. Furthermore, it MIGHT be that he didn't get serious about school until his senior year, and he's still recovering from being a slackhammer in high school. We're talking about a teen-ager, ya know. Give it some time and let's see what happens. Anyway, we're due for some luck.
Sometimes, you have to take a risk to get big talent, especially in BG's situation. I don't blame DD so much for this. Furthermore, it MIGHT be that he didn't get serious about school until his senior year, and he's still recovering from being a slackhammer in high school. We're talking about a teen-ager, ya know. Give it some time and let's see what happens. Anyway, we're due for some luck.
It's amazing the negativity that swarms around this board. DD can't do 1 thing right. Our players cant do one thing right. Our university cant do one thing right. In every story, there will be 1 thing that some person will pick out to be negative. Back when we had Larranaga, we bitched because our academics werent up to par. Now Dakich has these boys in the classroom and excelling and all of a sudden we start bitching about not having the overall talented player. THEN, when we get an overall talented player we bitch (and make judgements without knowing anything about his situation) about how bad academically he is. Not many schools have the ability to have both (or they cheat to do it in the classroom). Would it be too much to ask that maybe we get some glimpse of hope around here?? We just signed what seems to be on paper a VERY good recruiting class and I give DD a lot of props!! We shall see how good when they take the court.
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For both you and BleedOrange.. well said and I agree.CrazyFan wrote:It's amazing the negativity that swarms around this board. DD can't do 1 thing right. Our players cant do one thing right. Our university cant do one thing right. In every story, there will be 1 thing that some person will pick out to be negative. Back when we had Larranaga, we bitched because our academics werent up to par. Now Dakich has these boys in the classroom and excelling and all of a sudden we start bitching about not having the overall talented player. THEN, when we get an overall talented player we bitch (and make judgements without knowing anything about his situation) about how bad academically he is. Not many schools have the ability to have both (or they cheat to do it in the classroom). Would it be too much to ask that maybe we get some glimpse of hope around here?? We just signed what seems to be on paper a VERY good recruiting class and I give DD a lot of props!! We shall see how good when they take the court.
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Beat me to it. It's a shame that we had to get to the second page for level (or at least, on edit, cooler) heads to prevail.PGY Tiercel wrote:For both you and BleedOrange.. well said and I agree.
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I'm skeptical because the "high risk, high reward" route hasn't worked too well for us of late. Harwell blew out, Wright was a very disruptive factor, Sullivan had to sit a year and Moten had to sit for half a year and never seemed to get in sync.
I know it isn't entirely fair to Chris Knight to assume he won't work out because others have not, but the failures of others are enough to temper my enthusiasm.
Regardless, welcome to BG Chris....we'll all be pulling for you, even us skeptics
And when you do succeed, I'll be the forst to say "I knew the kid would make it" because I am an a-hole and that's what we do
I know it isn't entirely fair to Chris Knight to assume he won't work out because others have not, but the failures of others are enough to temper my enthusiasm.
Regardless, welcome to BG Chris....we'll all be pulling for you, even us skeptics
And when you do succeed, I'll be the forst to say "I knew the kid would make it" because I am an a-hole and that's what we do
Sorry if some of us have watched this team be an embarrassment on the court and we're fed up over it. Yeah it's hard to get worked up over a great sounding talented recruit when part of that article says he's not even expected to qualify. As Flipper said we haven't had great luck with that route recently. Beyond that we've also been hearing for the past 4 years how great our recruiting classes were only to have the most promising players leave and the others flounder and do nothing.
So yeah, I'm a bit skeptical about everything that I hear when it comes to BG basketball recruiting. I wish I didn't have to be that way, but it's the reality of the situation. I'm tired of getting super excited about every recruit we sign only to be continually disappointed. At this point I'm Missouri...show me.
So yeah, I'm a bit skeptical about everything that I hear when it comes to BG basketball recruiting. I wish I didn't have to be that way, but it's the reality of the situation. I'm tired of getting super excited about every recruit we sign only to be continually disappointed. At this point I'm Missouri...show me.
I hear ya, hammb... and I know how much time, effort and money you have put into getting to games even with a sour outlook on the product. (And this is not to say that others that posted on that first page of this thread don't bring the same support, I don't know that one way or the other.)
While I think I'll take the semi-skeptical "wait and see" approach with Knight, Polk and Hamblet (especially Polk bringing a presence we haven't seen in years) offer a chance to contribute for sure. I'm still scratching my head a bit over Hamblet's "per game" numbers, but the reviews say he's a baller. And with two years eligibility and DD apparently backed into a corner with one year left on his contract, he's gonna get that shot to contribute. Same with Polk, especially if Matt's feet are still hurting him next year.
I can see why some would question the Knight move if he has two strikes on the grade front already, but the other two bring a chance for some excitement, I think. Besides, upon reading the reports on his game, if Knight *does* get eligible, he won't be suiting up for Toledo, Kent or Miami(OH)!
While I think I'll take the semi-skeptical "wait and see" approach with Knight, Polk and Hamblet (especially Polk bringing a presence we haven't seen in years) offer a chance to contribute for sure. I'm still scratching my head a bit over Hamblet's "per game" numbers, but the reviews say he's a baller. And with two years eligibility and DD apparently backed into a corner with one year left on his contract, he's gonna get that shot to contribute. Same with Polk, especially if Matt's feet are still hurting him next year.
I can see why some would question the Knight move if he has two strikes on the grade front already, but the other two bring a chance for some excitement, I think. Besides, upon reading the reports on his game, if Knight *does* get eligible, he won't be suiting up for Toledo, Kent or Miami(OH)!
"I don't believe I can name a coach, anywhere, anytime, anyhow, who did it better than Doyt Perry."
-1955 BG Assistant Bo Schembechler
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-1955 BG Assistant Bo Schembechler
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The players definitely sound promising. Polk has size that we haven't seen here in awhile, I hope he brings athleticism with it. Even if he isn't a D1 player MAC big men usually take time to develop. Who would've thought that Kaman or Edwards were going to be what they were when they stepped on campus?
Hamblet sounds like a good shooter, and I'm very interested to see what comes of the PG possibility (I think I read that somewhere...this thread?) I hope he brings more than just a spotup shooter, but having not seen him play I'll reserve judgement until he suits up.
Knight sounds like an absolute STUD on the court from what I can tell. Guys like that have a catch, and his is academics. At this point I hope it works out the best for both him & BG, but I cannot get real excited about him until I see him on the bench, in uniform for a game. I find it especially disturbing that he still will not be eligible after a year of prep school. Perhaps he dug himself a hole that cannot be climbed out of in a year, but he's rededicated himself. I don't know, but I gotta believe that there can only be so much optimism with a kid like that.
In the end I do think these kids sound like they are good additions to our team, but at the same time I just cannot get that enthusiastic over recruits anymore. I'd love to be all giddy over them, but I cannot help but remember a year ago at this time. We were all so thrilled because we had a nationally ranked recruiting class (due to quantity not quality, most likely). In the end 2 of those guys left before stepping foot in a BG classroom and one of them spent the year on the north wall of Anderson ineligible to be with the team. Hopefully this group will follow a different path than what we've become accustomed to, but as I said, I'll reserve judgement for when I see them play.
Hamblet sounds like a good shooter, and I'm very interested to see what comes of the PG possibility (I think I read that somewhere...this thread?) I hope he brings more than just a spotup shooter, but having not seen him play I'll reserve judgement until he suits up.
Knight sounds like an absolute STUD on the court from what I can tell. Guys like that have a catch, and his is academics. At this point I hope it works out the best for both him & BG, but I cannot get real excited about him until I see him on the bench, in uniform for a game. I find it especially disturbing that he still will not be eligible after a year of prep school. Perhaps he dug himself a hole that cannot be climbed out of in a year, but he's rededicated himself. I don't know, but I gotta believe that there can only be so much optimism with a kid like that.
In the end I do think these kids sound like they are good additions to our team, but at the same time I just cannot get that enthusiastic over recruits anymore. I'd love to be all giddy over them, but I cannot help but remember a year ago at this time. We were all so thrilled because we had a nationally ranked recruiting class (due to quantity not quality, most likely). In the end 2 of those guys left before stepping foot in a BG classroom and one of them spent the year on the north wall of Anderson ineligible to be with the team. Hopefully this group will follow a different path than what we've become accustomed to, but as I said, I'll reserve judgement for when I see them play.
Scenario for Knight...
Enrolls at BG and is ineligible to play during the Fall semester but continues to practice with the team. Athletic department puts him into some classes for the fall semester, that how do we say, gives him his best chance to succeed academically. He becomes eligible after the fall semester and joins the team around the Christmas holidays at a tournament down south somewhere. He comes off the bench in his first game and scores 17 points in his first game. He goes on to be an important part of the team the rest of season.
Sound familiar? This is what Keith McLeod did at the start of his career at BG. If this kid is the player he has been made out to be, the athletic department will do everything possible to make him succeed...both in the classroom and on the court. Tutors, study sessions, less rigorous curriculum, etc. In the end, it will fall on his shoulders whether he makes it or not. If he doesn't make it with all this guidance...I worry about the young man's future.
Enrolls at BG and is ineligible to play during the Fall semester but continues to practice with the team. Athletic department puts him into some classes for the fall semester, that how do we say, gives him his best chance to succeed academically. He becomes eligible after the fall semester and joins the team around the Christmas holidays at a tournament down south somewhere. He comes off the bench in his first game and scores 17 points in his first game. He goes on to be an important part of the team the rest of season.
Sound familiar? This is what Keith McLeod did at the start of his career at BG. If this kid is the player he has been made out to be, the athletic department will do everything possible to make him succeed...both in the classroom and on the court. Tutors, study sessions, less rigorous curriculum, etc. In the end, it will fall on his shoulders whether he makes it or not. If he doesn't make it with all this guidance...I worry about the young man's future.
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If Knight is a non-qualifier (which apparently he is expected to be) he is required to sit out a FULL year. He also can NOT practice with the team during that year. This situation is actually quite different from Keith McLeod's.
That said, he could potentially be eligible by the start of the 07-08 season, and I think it's a worthy chance to take on the kid.
That said, he could potentially be eligible by the start of the 07-08 season, and I think it's a worthy chance to take on the kid.
