Stroh Center Ground Breaking

[h2oville rocket]

The Big Bird will have to be guarded when games with toledo [sic] are near. That thing just screams for a coat of paint.

I think your bigger concern is Corey Partridge.

[ZiggyZoomba]

From what I have read recently upon the passing of BK, AA used to really rock when the Falcons played - 6,000 fans according to Hack. Of course there were two future NBAers on the team then. But will Strow be big enough if for some unforseen reason b'ball becomes the only game in town once again during the winter months in future years? Interesting food for thought...

TOP 5 CROWDS IN ARENA HISTORY
# Opponent-Date-Attn.-Outcome
1. Miami-Jan. 16, 1971-5,918-76-68 BG
2. Ohio-Jan. 10, 1970-5,894-85-65 BG
3. Wisconsin-Dec. 10, 1966-5,890-81-69 BG
4. Loyola (Ill)-Feb. 16, 1963-5,734-92-75 BG
5. Western Mich.-Feb. 22, 1964-5,634-101-81 BG

Anderson Arena's "official" capacity was never more than 5200 Now it's 1000 less than that. (or 4700 with the upper bleachers pulled out and the Falcon Club pavilion out of commission)

[BGSU33]

It is exciting to have the project about to start. The more I consider it, the location is perfect. It gives a great first impression to the folks coming to BG. It is near the alumni center. It is closer to the Sebo, Ice Arena, and DLP. It will mean a huge boon to the places to eat across the street, and I think could trigger a building boom to the extent that is possible. Coming out of the recession it may bring long awaited development on the other side of I-75.

Agreed, I was thinking the same thing the other day myself. I have always been in favor of the new facility, but wasn't so sure about the location. But going along with some of the points you made above, I think it fits. I also like that were aren't losing a green part of campus to build the facility,

[zete]

Interesting - the big numbers (see above) were before hockey really took off. Like I said, If hockey goes down the toilet, The Stroh arena won't be big enough.

[It's the Journey...]

Interesting - the big numbers (see above) were before hockey really took off. Like I said, If hockey goes down the toilet, The Stroh arena won't be big enough.

18 sports 1 team, grasp the concept!

[NWLB]

Interesting - the big numbers (see above) were before hockey really took off. Like I said, If hockey goes down the toilet, The Stroh arena won't be big enough.

If the hockey program goes down, the Stroh center won't need to be any larger.

Likewise, those big numbers pre-date the reduction in seating at Anderson, a point you also missed.

And you hardly have presented yourself as somebody that cares much for hockey, so maybe you should disclose that up front.

[NWLB]

Interesting - the big numbers (see above) were before hockey really took off. Like I said, If hockey goes down the toilet, The Stroh arena won't be big enough.

18 sports 1 team, grasp the concept!

No, he doesn't, he is one of the misguided types that thinks not having hockey equates to more money for the sport he likes. A line of thought which is second only to the idea that fans don't attend basketball because of being at hockey in terms of simply be nuts.

[zete]

Say what you will, the athletic programs at BGSU are taxed due to the large amount of freight we push. Whether it be f'ball, hockey, basketball, or a host of others, something will need to be slashed. Unless deus ex machina...
I think a lot of the noise is just that - a ploy to evoke large amounts of money into the Athletic Dept. I for one am all for so many D1 sports, but not at a sub level which is where the hockey program now stands. Thus, all of the talk and believe me they are not rumours. Hockey will go if something significant doesn't happen soon.

[NWLB]

Say what you will, the athletic programs at BGSU are taxed due to the large amount of freight we push. Whether it be f'ball, hockey, basketball, or a host of others, something will need to be slashed. Unless deus ex machina...
I think a lot of the noise is just that - a ploy to evoke large amounts of money into the Athletic Dept. I for one am all for so many D1 sports, but not at a sub level which is where the hockey program now stands. Thus, all of the talk and believe me they are not rumours. Hockey will go if something significant doesn't happen soon.

Zete, you really are totally out of touch aren't you?

[zete]

Yea, I guess you're right. I don't know what I'm talking about.

[murphdogg]

Interesting - the big numbers (see above) were before hockey really took off. Like I said, If hockey goes down the toilet, The Stroh arena won't be big enough.

Unless the athletic department decided to be stupid and schedule basketball and hockey games at the same time, I fail to see how hockey being eliminated would increase basketball attendance

[hammb]

Interesting - the big numbers (see above) were before hockey really took off. Like I said, If hockey goes down the toilet, The Stroh arena won't be big enough.

Unless the athletic department decided to be stupid and schedule basketball and hockey games at the same time, I fail to see how hockey being eliminated would increase basketball attendance

I don't know, when I was in school I went to nearly all the hockey & all the basketball games. After graduation and having to now pay for tickets I cannot afford to go to all the games. I'm far more interested in hoops and have continued to attend nearly all of the home men's games, but I rarely see a hockey game anymore; maybe one or two a year.

Maybe I'm the oddball, but I bet there are other fans like me who only have so much money to spend on sporting event tickets throughout the season. If that is the case is it that hard to believe that there are some of them currently choosing hockey instead of basketball?

Obviously it'd be a pretty big stretch to say that this would result in a noticeable increase in attendance, but it would probably result in something. For instance, if we dropped basketball I would probably find myself at more hockey games...the reverse could be true for some other fans out there.

[NWLB]

There are some people, spanning all generations, but who can be found in much greater concentration among those who pre-date hockey, that never have, don't, and won't "get" why it is a big deal.

I'm not even referencing Zete specifically, though he is a non-hockey fan who pre-dates the program itself. I've sat with folks at basketball games, some I consider friends to this day, who just can't be brought to attend a hockey game. They shake their heads, darn near shake themselves and cry "lalalalala," when you try to probe them for the "why" they don't go to hockey games.

Now speaking to Hammb's point, as a student, going to both was a given in my life, and as an alum, I kept at it. After marriage, I kept with hockey until after Buddy was bought-out. Given a choice between the two? I would go with hockey, but that might seem obvious. In Hammb's case, he is still attending basketball, when forced to choose. He is already lumped into the bball figures, so no gain comes from eliminating hockey.

Hockey to basketball attendees that won't attend basketball if their preferred team is cut, likely either cancels out or winds up hurting basketball, giving to athletics in general, etc.

So again, cutting a deeply rooted sport such as hockey doesn't lump more cash into basketball. Odds are, looking at the MAC in general, the cheap will get cheaper, not lavish on another sport. Like the Ice Arena and Hockey, Anderson does need to be replaced, moved to the future location (like Football needed to be,) just to stay in the figurative game. But building Stroh itself isn't the start of some flood of long-lost funding to the program. It will be an anvil used to leverage more money out of an existing base, to reduce overall costs to the University.

To which we have to point back to the Ice Arena. People find ways to get tickets to programs doing well. The state of the team has no small part in the support of the University of the facility itself, and the botched management setup between it and Athletics.

One of my points to Zete was that we, the actual hockey fans, are well aware of how real and close the program came this month. That issue was settled some time ago. Feelings about the coach are largely being put aside while the very big effort is setup and driven forward. This

I grasp he isn't a hockey fan, and in and of itself I don't care that he isn't. But if I can simply shrug and not care about that when talking to folks like him, I can't when they toss simply wrong minded ideas about the gain to be had from cutting hockey. Most don't mean harm, but they don't care about the sport in the first place.

[Rightupinthere]

From what I have read recently upon the passing of BK, AA used to really rock when the Falcons played - 6,000 fans according to Hack. Of course there were two future NBAers on the team then. But will Strow be big enough if for some unforseen reason b'ball becomes the only game in town once again during the winter months in future years? Interesting food for thought...

Strow will never be big enough to hold any fan support.

Stroh will be plenty big enough. If tickets become hard to come by then that is a GOOD thing.