Ah, Ernie Harwell, an American treasure. Memories of so many summer evenings from my childhood. Memories of my dad and teammates in his pickup truck coming home from baseball practice, the sun down but the sky still alit. "...and that foul ball goes to a fan from Monroe, Michigan..." Aurolio Rodriguez, Lou Whitiker, John Wockenfuss, Jason Thompson, Steve Kemp. Thoughts of the vividly green, freshly clipped outfield of Tiger Stadium subsuming all awareness as I walk thru the tunnel to my upper deck seats behind first base. Thank you Flip. All this BG basketball stuff was starting to bring me down.Flipper wrote:...as Earnie Harwell used to say...Looooooooooooong gone. ....
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Here, Listen to Old Blue Eyes ..BleedOrange wrote:Ah, Ernie Harwell, an American treasure. Memories of so many summer evenings from my childhood. Memories of my dad and teammates in his pickup truck coming home from baseball practice, the sun down but the sky still alit. "...and that foul ball goes to a fan from Monroe, Michigan..." Aurolio Rodriguez, Lou Whitiker, John Wockenfuss, Jason Thompson, Steve Kemp. Thoughts of the vividly green, freshly clipped outfield of Tiger Stadium subsuming all awareness as I walk thru the tunnel to my upper deck seats behind first base. Thank you Flip. All this BG basketball stuff was starting to bring me down.Flipper wrote:...as Earnie Harwell used to say...Looooooooooooong gone. ....
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FROM CLEVELAND PLAIN DEALER - - -It was, by all accounts, a good year for Mid-American Conference basketball. The league had five teams finish with 20 wins for the season and seven finish at .500 or better. Five teams played in postseason tournaments with Ohio University winning a pair of games in the CollegeInsider.com Tournament.
The quality of play was high as the league finished ranked among the Top 12 in the nation, and with 20-win teams such as Toledo, Akron and OU returning a solid core of players for next season, plus rising teams at Northern Illinois and Miami, even more is predicted.
To date, the league has had only one coaching change, Chris Jans from Wichita State taking over at Bowling Green, although reports are Ohio's Jim Christian is a candidate for the Boston College job. And there is just one coach, Rob Senderoff at Kent State, with less than three years remaining on his contract. This points to a level of coaching stability in the MAC.
Also, the Falcons stepped up significantly in the contract department as Jans has a $325,000 a year contract which will place him solidly near the top half of MAC coaching salaries.
Only four coaches in the MAC are now getting paid less than $300,000 a year. But the four who are -- James Whitford at Ball State, Senderoff at Kent State, John Cooper at Miami and Rob Murphy at Eastern Michigan -- point to what has become a repeated problem in the league.
Administratively, once basketball shows a level of success, MAC college presidents and athletic directors have turned their backs on the sport, apparently expecting it to sustain itself and survive on its own.
Over the last 25 years five MAC teams have advanced to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament. Four of them are Ball State, Eastern Michigan, Miami and Kent State, the programs with the lowest paid coaches in the league.
TREADWELL.JPG
The Akron Zips, and Demetrius Treadwell, have been a MAC hoops power for years, but have yet to step outside of the MAC's footprint.
Plain Dealer
Nobody in the MAC seemingly wants to be the brand name for the league, like Wichita State is for the Missouri Valley, Gonzaga is for the West Coast Conference, or Butler once was for the Horizon League.
One can argue Akron's run of MAC Tournament success has made the Zips a brand, but that does not extend outside of the MAC's footprint without postseason success.
Three of those four Sweet 16 MAC programs -- BSU, EMU and Miami -- not only failed to become the face of the league for longer than a comet burns, they fell completely to the back of the MAC pack. Only one of those four MAC teams (Kent State) has returned to the NCAA Tournament more than once after advancing to the Sweet 16.
As good as the 2013-14 season was for the MAC, it is hard to become a two-bid NCAA Tournament league without stability and consistency at the top.
Ohio, the last MAC Sweet 16 program (2012), has shown signs of staying power. They have invested in Christian as the highest paid in the league ($425,000) and showed by paying to play all three CIT games at home, that they will continue to invest in their program.
If they can retain Christian, with a return to the NCAA Tournament along with more NCAA Tournament success, the Bobcats can become the face of MAC basketball.
But the best case scenario would be for other MAC programs to join them.
The quality of play was high as the league finished ranked among the Top 12 in the nation, and with 20-win teams such as Toledo, Akron and OU returning a solid core of players for next season, plus rising teams at Northern Illinois and Miami, even more is predicted.
To date, the league has had only one coaching change, Chris Jans from Wichita State taking over at Bowling Green, although reports are Ohio's Jim Christian is a candidate for the Boston College job. And there is just one coach, Rob Senderoff at Kent State, with less than three years remaining on his contract. This points to a level of coaching stability in the MAC.
Also, the Falcons stepped up significantly in the contract department as Jans has a $325,000 a year contract which will place him solidly near the top half of MAC coaching salaries.
Only four coaches in the MAC are now getting paid less than $300,000 a year. But the four who are -- James Whitford at Ball State, Senderoff at Kent State, John Cooper at Miami and Rob Murphy at Eastern Michigan -- point to what has become a repeated problem in the league.
Administratively, once basketball shows a level of success, MAC college presidents and athletic directors have turned their backs on the sport, apparently expecting it to sustain itself and survive on its own.
Over the last 25 years five MAC teams have advanced to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament. Four of them are Ball State, Eastern Michigan, Miami and Kent State, the programs with the lowest paid coaches in the league.
TREADWELL.JPG
The Akron Zips, and Demetrius Treadwell, have been a MAC hoops power for years, but have yet to step outside of the MAC's footprint.
Plain Dealer
Nobody in the MAC seemingly wants to be the brand name for the league, like Wichita State is for the Missouri Valley, Gonzaga is for the West Coast Conference, or Butler once was for the Horizon League.
One can argue Akron's run of MAC Tournament success has made the Zips a brand, but that does not extend outside of the MAC's footprint without postseason success.
Three of those four Sweet 16 MAC programs -- BSU, EMU and Miami -- not only failed to become the face of the league for longer than a comet burns, they fell completely to the back of the MAC pack. Only one of those four MAC teams (Kent State) has returned to the NCAA Tournament more than once after advancing to the Sweet 16.
As good as the 2013-14 season was for the MAC, it is hard to become a two-bid NCAA Tournament league without stability and consistency at the top.
Ohio, the last MAC Sweet 16 program (2012), has shown signs of staying power. They have invested in Christian as the highest paid in the league ($425,000) and showed by paying to play all three CIT games at home, that they will continue to invest in their program.
If they can retain Christian, with a return to the NCAA Tournament along with more NCAA Tournament success, the Bobcats can become the face of MAC basketball.
But the best case scenario would be for other MAC programs to join them.
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zete wrote:FROM CLEVELAND PLAIN DEALER - - -It was, by all accounts, a good year for Mid-American Conference basketball. The league had five teams finish with 20 wins for the season and seven finish at .500 or better. Five teams played in postseason tournaments with Ohio University winning a pair of games in the CollegeInsider.com Tournament.
The quality of play was high as the league finished ranked among the Top 12 in the nation, and with 20-win teams such as Toledo, Akron and OU returning a solid core of players for next season, plus rising teams at Northern Illinois and Miami, even more is predicted.
To date, the league has had only one coaching change, Chris Jans from Wichita State taking over at Bowling Green, although reports are Ohio's Jim Christian is a candidate for the Boston College job. And there is just one coach, Rob Senderoff at Kent State, with less than three years remaining on his contract. This points to a level of coaching stability in the MAC.
Also, the Falcons stepped up significantly in the contract department as Jans has a $325,000 a year contract which will place him solidly near the top half of MAC coaching salaries.
Only four coaches in the MAC are now getting paid less than $300,000 a year. But the four who are -- James Whitford at Ball State, Senderoff at Kent State, John Cooper at Miami and Rob Murphy at Eastern Michigan -- point to what has become a repeated problem in the league.
Administratively, once basketball shows a level of success, MAC college presidents and athletic directors have turned their backs on the sport, apparently expecting it to sustain itself and survive on its own.
Over the last 25 years five MAC teams have advanced to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament. Four of them are Ball State, Eastern Michigan, Miami and Kent State, the programs with the lowest paid coaches in the league.
TREADWELL.JPG
The Akron Zips, and Demetrius Treadwell, have been a MAC hoops power for years, but have yet to step outside of the MAC's footprint.
Plain Dealer
Nobody in the MAC seemingly wants to be the brand name for the league, like Wichita State is for the Missouri Valley, Gonzaga is for the West Coast Conference, or Butler once was for the Horizon League.
One can argue Akron's run of MAC Tournament success has made the Zips a brand, but that does not extend outside of the MAC's footprint without postseason success.
Three of those four Sweet 16 MAC programs -- BSU, EMU and Miami -- not only failed to become the face of the league for longer than a comet burns, they fell completely to the back of the MAC pack. Only one of those four MAC teams (Kent State) has returned to the NCAA Tournament more than once after advancing to the Sweet 16.
As good as the 2013-14 season was for the MAC, it is hard to become a two-bid NCAA Tournament league without stability and consistency at the top.
Ohio, the last MAC Sweet 16 program (2012), has shown signs of staying power. They have invested in Christian as the highest paid in the league ($425,000) and showed by paying to play all three CIT games at home, that they will continue to invest in their program.
If they can retain Christian, with a return to the NCAA Tournament along with more NCAA Tournament success, the Bobcats can become the face of MAC basketball.
But the best case scenario would be for other MAC programs to join them.
This appeared about 2 wks ago or so. Most interesting was the league's overall rating. We've tended to think the whole LEAGUE is bad due to what we've seen for last 7 yrs. the overall lack of tourn. Success has locked down the " one bid" attitude...maybe if we begin to have more success, on top of OU,AKRON,UT et al, this will change.
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Shane Kline-Ruminski recently tweeted "All of U Conn coaching staff played there. Not sure why MAC school are hiring coaches with no ties to the schools or even area/conference." This was right after OU bypassed Boals (an alum) in favor of Saul Phillips. The interesting thing is that is was retweeted by Anthony Stacey.
Someone responded along similar lines to what I was thinking: "I love the MAC as much as anyone, but the conference needs to break "He's 1 of us!" mentality and start aiming higher."
No. 1, both Jans and Phillips are emmiently qualified (if not overqualified) for the jobs they earned. Their credentials and reputations are as gaudy as any who've come into the conference in recent memory.
No. 2, the UConn comparison doesn't apply because that group played for a Hall of Fame coach with three national championships to his credit. Nobody in the MAC can start plucking people from that type of coaching tree. Our guys consist of coaches at the high school and small college level with a couple relatively unknown high major assistants. Good guys? Sure. Love BG? No doubt. Have resumes where they played critical roles in molding undefeated seasons, number one seeds and Final Four births? Hopefully one day but not yet.
https://twitter.com/Skr_TNBA" target="_blank (April 8)
Someone responded along similar lines to what I was thinking: "I love the MAC as much as anyone, but the conference needs to break "He's 1 of us!" mentality and start aiming higher."
No. 1, both Jans and Phillips are emmiently qualified (if not overqualified) for the jobs they earned. Their credentials and reputations are as gaudy as any who've come into the conference in recent memory.
No. 2, the UConn comparison doesn't apply because that group played for a Hall of Fame coach with three national championships to his credit. Nobody in the MAC can start plucking people from that type of coaching tree. Our guys consist of coaches at the high school and small college level with a couple relatively unknown high major assistants. Good guys? Sure. Love BG? No doubt. Have resumes where they played critical roles in molding undefeated seasons, number one seeds and Final Four births? Hopefully one day but not yet.
https://twitter.com/Skr_TNBA" target="_blank (April 8)
