Huger has a 6 year contract

[hammb]

I said at the beginning of the year that with this schedule, in a coach's 3rd year, we should be winning 18+ games. I also said that we should start to see some of his recruited talent taking the next steps to start looking like All MAC caliber players. Finally, I felt we should be > .500 in conference with a trip to Cleveland.


At this point in the season winning 18+ is doable, but not looking likely, IMO. Not the way they've played of late. > .500 in conference is doable, as is a trip to Cleveland, but again they're not playing at that level right now.

Wiggins has taken his game up another level. Turner looks pretty good, albeit inconsistent. The rest of the returners haven't really made any market improvement, IMO. Frye is averaging more points, but shooting lower % overall and from 3. Caldwell is similar, scoring more points while shooting worse in both categories; at least he has improved his assist:TO ratio, and more overall assists. Lillard has played better this year than last, but he's doing so with less minutes and less shots; not to mention another suspension.


Right now I've already seen enough to start seriously questioning whether this group can actually coach. We're not seeing enough year to year, or in year improvement in individuals. We still don't give consistent effort from play to play, half to half, or game to game. I know this group is young, but so are many of our peers. The very least we could ask for is consistent effort, and we're not getting it. If they continue to falter and fail to meet my, not overly ambitious preseason expectations I'm going to be very hard pressed to say we've got the right group. Next year will truly be a test of their coaching abilities because they don't have many scholarships, by and large they'll be relying on the same rotation next year as they are this year. We know there is zero chance they make a coaching change this year and probably less than 1% they would make one following NEXT season. But if something doesn't start turning around soon I'll be again resigned the fact that we're just throwing away years waiting for another contract to expire.

[factman]

It really doesn't help to mute all of the annoying people on here if others keep quoting them to argue...

Call me a pollyanna, but I'm actually pretty happy with Huger's time here. I think there has been a clear increase in talent and there will almost certainly be an increase in wins this year. There have definitely been some frustrating losses, to be sure, but our five leading minutes-getters are Freshman, Sophomore, Sophomore, Junior, Freshman, in that order. They're going to have some bad losses. If they lose out from here, then I might change my opinion, but for now, I've been satisfied and have enjoyed watching them (save the NIU & ODU games).

[Hockey John]

http://www.toledoblade.com/BGSU/2015/04 ... coach.html

These things are dumb. He could leave any time he wants but if he puts forth a terrible team and is incapable of filling out his roster for three seasons in a row than we have to pay him for 6 years.

What coach is going to leave a school for a two year contract. If some of you get your way we fire a coach after one or two years, we will not get good people to apply for our job. Would you leave your job with the risk that you could lose your new job within a year? That is the problem that the Cleveland Browns have had for 20 years.

[guest44]

Nobody said anything about a 2 year contract, but 6 years for a coach you passed on the year prior doesn’t make much sense. Especially when we learn the same ad and his department hired a football coach who didn’t even have an agent. Chris Jans, who is like 18-3 right now, required a 6 year contract for BG to get. He was a top assistant at program with lots of momentum and was in demand. Huger, Bergeron, Brandon, Jinks, or name any of the others did not at the time. None were or are in demand enough to just toss 6 years at when they didn’t have other offers. In fact, Jinks wasn’t in demand in his own mind. If only BG had known they didn’t have the funds to make scratch off lottery ticket hires.

As far as the Cleveland Browns reference, it makes no sense. When it comes to BG Basketball, part of the main problem is the lack of turnover in coaches. Any school who gives Louis Orr seven years, and opens a new arena with him as coach, lacks a commitment to the sport. This isn’t the NFL. It’s MAC basketball. Where every team not named Akron with Dambrot, loses its coach as soon as it is good. It shouldn’t be too much to ask to expect a program to figure out how to be the best, in a 10 or 12 team league, once in 50 years.

[Falconwriter]

You've asked for new leadership in athletics. Are you aware that we HAVE a new leader, who's only in his 2nd year back at BG?

Well then, he needs to ACT like a leader. An athletic leader doesn’t let 3 of his/her 4 biggest programs continue to be bottom feeders just because “we don’t have the money to buy them out”. A leader doesn’t stand for his D1 football program to get beat by a D2 program, at home, or his basketball programs to get blown off the court nightly. A leader is innovative. A leader finds a way to get things done. Moose has shown NONE of this. Sure, he inherited a mess and has to deal with others mistakes, but DEAL WITH THEM!! Don’t let the problems continue to embarrass your department and your university. And so far, he has done just that. Jinx should have been shown the door at the end of last season, Roos should had been shown the door as soon as that bus pulled into the Stroh parking lot early this morning and Huger, without some miraculous turn around, needs to be shown the door at the end of this season. I mean its year 3 for him and there has been NO, NONE, ZERO progress on the court. Year 3, at the latest, is when a coach should have a team turned around. Jans did it in one year for Christ sakes! Moose needs to find a way to get it done, clean house, and get these programs back to where they had been and should be at. That’s what a leader does.

Do you have any idea what he's done behind the scenes? No, I didn't think so...
Money talks, but you have to have it in order for it to do so. Pony up the buyout cash and I'm sure that everything that you want done will get done. Until then all of your complaining is nothing more than bad gas. If you would, though, please start farting in the wind because you're stinking the place up.

Okay, no need to attack someone in a personal way for venting their frustrations at three teams which have been (to put it mildly) under-performing for quite a while now. As a matter of fact, I DO happen to have a pretty good idea of what Mr. Moosbrugger and his staff have been working hard at and focusing on -- and it IS trying to get this athletic program better funded all around. When that happens, they will have more flexibility for situations like this; but until then it is extremely hard to watch the university you love get humiliated so often in major sports. You may not like what someone posts, but please attack the post, not the poster. Emotional rants DIRECTED AT someone serve no purpose except to throw gasoline on a fire.

[Flipper]

Huger will be here for years three and four...at least. I could seeus eating two years

[Schadenfreude]

What coach is going to leave a school for a two year contract.

Exactly.

[hammb]

Huger will be here for years three and four...at least. I could seeus eating two years

I really hope we're willing to do that this time around, if necessary.

This is year 3 and we've seen ZERO growth in the program. Better talent than Orr's teams, for sure, but no more winning. No consistency on offense, and for all the talent he's added only Turner is really a decent defender. Wiggins, Koch, Frye, Caldwell, and Cummings are all playing big minutes and bring very little on the defensive end. Plowden & Gadsen at least show some signs of playing help defense, which is a start. Lillard is Lillard...he's capable of defending with his length/athleticism...when he wants to.

Beyond our lack of defense the really maddening part of this team is the long stretches where they look like they don't even want to be on the court, or as if they've never been there before. Every game it's 5-10 minute stretches where we guard nobody and toss passes lazily to god knows where. The FGCU game was the closest thing I've seen all year to a team that had its head in the game for 40 minutes. We either get off to a cold start and throw in the towel, or get a good lead and lay back letting the opponent back into the game. This is not simply a matter of a young team, IMO, there's more to it than that.

Next year is year 4 and if we still haven't seen any growth in the program we simply must be able to find a way to buy out those final 2 years and find a better coach. It'll hurt to fire a BG alum, but if it needs to be done, it needs to be done. Keeping coaches through the entirety of their long contracts has crippled this program, we must learn from these mistakes.

[Globetrotter]

Huger will be here for years three and four...at least. I could seeus eating two years

I really hope we're willing to do that this time around, if necessary.

This is year 3 and we've seen ZERO growth in the program. Better talent than Orr's teams, for sure, but no more winning. No consistency on offense, and for all the talent he's added only Turner is really a decent defender. Wiggins, Koch, Frye, Caldwell, and Cummings are all playing big minutes and bring very little on the defensive end. Plowden & Gadsen at least show some signs of playing help defense, which is a start. Lillard is Lillard...he's capable of defending with his length/athleticism...when he wants to.

Beyond our lack of defense the really maddening part of this team is the long stretches where they look like they don't even want to be on the court, or as if they've never been there before. Every game it's 5-10 minute stretches where we guard nobody and toss passes lazily to god knows where. The FGCU game was the closest thing I've seen all year to a team that had its head in the game for 40 minutes. We either get off to a cold start and throw in the towel, or get a good lead and lay back letting the opponent back into the game. This is not simply a matter of a young team, IMO, there's more to it than that.

Next year is year 4 and if we still haven't seen any growth in the program we simply must be able to find a way to buy out those final 2 years and find a better coach. It'll hurt to fire a BG alum, but if it needs to be done, it needs to be done. Keeping coaches through the entirety of their long contracts has crippled this program, we must learn from these mistakes.

I hope we don't see a max exodus. It certainly doesn't seem the players have bought in if you look at the effort.