Don't fall for it again Moose

[hammb]

Yeah, Huger scheduled his way to back to back 20 win seasons. He's still a meh 102-85 overall, and only 53-55 in MAC play. These numbers look good compared to Orr, but given our facility and our endowment this is not nearly good enough. Jans showed you how easily a GOOD coach can come in here and win right away. At no point in the 6 years here has Huger's team ever looked as well coached as Jans team did in his 1 season.

The problem with Jans (aside from being handsy) was that the whole team hated him and about half were going to transfer out before he got fired anyway. He was a mini-Gregg Marshall without the resume back then.

Perhaps, but he could coach. I was completely on board with moving on from him after the Reverend's (and other drinking) incidents, but he could definitely coach.

As to the players hating him and wanting to transfer, I'm not certain that was a bad thing, although I'm generally not at all a fan of hardass coaches who treat players like crap. In the case of that roster, however, there weren't really any players with eligibility remaining who were worth retaining anyhow. Perhaps it was him trying to clean house a la Urban Meyer, dunno. It's also not hard to imagine that any actual coaching whatsoever would seem overbearing compared to the Louis Orr, "Let god be the glory" experience.

Jans has gone on to be pretty damned successful as a HC, at the very least he must have learned how to treat players or he wouldn't be winning 25 games every year at NMSU (although this year doesn't look real good for them).

[hammb]

The difference is Jans can actually coach.

This is absolutely the difference.

Huger can't really coach.
Loeffler REALLY looks like he can't coach.


Yeah, you need to be able to recruit and retain talent to build a program and maintain it, but it's generally fairly obvious when guys can or cannot coach. Huger, for his coaching failings, at least has brought in some high quality MAC talent, and kept it in the program for 4 years. That is commendable, and it's enough to be a .500 or slightly better team. But I don't see the coaching chops (and never have) to make me think his teams will EVER make that 3 game run in Cleveland. He's also had roster construction issues most seasons, and refused to use his entire scholarship allotment; things that have made it even harder on him as a coach.

[MarkL]

In an alternate reality where Jans behaved himself properly and stuck around here, I believe he runs off most of the players he inherited. Which considering they were recruits by the previous coach who supposedly did not like working as hard as Jans demanded, I don't see a problem. BG would have naturally tanked immediately as Jans' first freshmen recruits played entirely too many minutes because nobody else is around. And come year three or so of said alternate universe, BG is hitting on all cylinders and it is apparent just how good a coach he really is just as NMSU is currently seeing. You don't win conference coach of the year three straight times on accident.

Problem is he behaved wrong. He was an outstanding hire though. What could have been.

[hammb]

In an alternate reality where Jans behaved himself properly and stuck around here, I believe he runs off most of the players he inherited. Which considering they were recruits by the previous coach who supposedly did not like working as hard as Jans demanded, I don't see a problem. BG would have naturally tanked immediately as Jans' first freshmen recruits played entirely too many minutes because nobody else is around. And come year three or so of said alternate universe, BG is hitting on all cylinders and it is apparent just how good a coach he really is just as NMSU is currently seeing. You don't win conference coach of the year three straight times on accident.

Problem is he behaved wrong. He was an outstanding hire though. What could have been.

Agreed. My posts are in no way meant to excuse his behavior. I do, however think it's fair to hold huger to that standard, considering we gave him the same contract, then a large raise.

There are young quality coaches out there. Our previous ad didn't look, rather took the easy way out hiring an alum who wasn't in demand. Then moose doubled down after one successful season.

[guest44]

In an alternate reality where Jans behaved himself properly and stuck around here, I believe he runs off most of the players he inherited. Which considering they were recruits by the previous coach who supposedly did not like working as hard as Jans demanded, I don't see a problem. BG would have naturally tanked immediately as Jans' first freshmen recruits played entirely too many minutes because nobody else is around. And come year three or so of said alternate universe, BG is hitting on all cylinders and it is apparent just how good a coach he really is just as NMSU is currently seeing. You don't win conference coach of the year three straight times on accident.

Problem is he behaved wrong. He was an outstanding hire though. What could have been.

It wouldn’t have taken 3 years for Jans to have Bowling Green winning big. In his one season, 5 or 6 different Orr recruits made significant strides over the previous season. Holmes went from a good player to a great player. If players had quit he would have found transfers and Juco players and had BG right in the mix. His behavior was pretty obvious to the administration well before he had coached a game. Ask anyone in the department at that time about the Toledo jewelry store event just a month or so after he was hired. It was only after the cellphone video appeared that they sprung into any action. Typical.

[zete]

Haha...just tweeted back to Jordan something to this very effect. That and also urging Jordan Strack to speak it into existence if he can. I'd like the local media to do whatever they possibly can to make Huger look like the most attractive up and coming coach in the country. This is probably our one shot to get rid of Huger before that contract expires.

*fingers crossed*

No one is going to be interested in Mike when they look at how this season panned out.

[Hammer]

LOL It's God's WHEEL. Shrugs shoulders.

I'm going to be sad that Plowden is leaving. Turner, not so much. True he can control a game, but it seems lately, especially when the all-time men's scoring leadership was on the line, he became somewhat selfish. Also, the Pandemic blues, or Huger's lack of renting a big man, sucked. Maybe no one was available, but how can Toledo go to Division II and grab a body capable of playing in the MAC and we can't find a big man for a year?

HoopsFan

This exact;ly. Plowmen is my favorite player I have watched in a BG uniform behind Daniels and Stacey. I don’t think he gets the attention he deserves. Turner is good and I’m glad we have him but he can be such a black hole that he kills the offense at times.

Our roster construction is our biggest nemesis this year. We needed a big man and didn’t get one.

[BGFalconfromCincy]

Fordham job is open again. Doubt they’d want Huger now, but just wanted to point that out

[guest44]

He wasn't an actual candidate the first time and won't be this time either without the search getting very few willing candidates for the worst job in the A10. The two jobs that Huger's agent floated his name for (George Washington & Fordham) have both come open a second time since Huger was a "candidate." A functional AD would have never blinked an eye. Bob Moosbrugger is incompetent. Bowling Green is stuck with 2 more extended years & additional year Covid contract extension until 2025. George Washington hired Chris Caputo another Miami assistant and longtime Larranaga assistant. Time will likely prove that Bowling Green hired the worst of all the Larranaga assistants who are college head coaches.

Michael Huger is 115-105. Michael Huger is 59-69 in MAC play. Since Huger was hired all of these MAC schools have fired coaches (Ohio, Ball State, Northern Illinois, Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan twice, Central Michigan, Miami twice) Bowling Green returns 0 all MAC players from a team that didn't qualify for the MAC Tournament.

[TommyG]

3 more seasons of Huger…whew
Moose should be calling Fordham daily to recommend him for the job and offering to waive the buyout.

[guest44]

Don’t forget the timing of the Covid extension. November of 2020 after BGSU Basketball was picked to win the MAC (Finished 6th). That extension was not made public. At that same time, BGSU Football is winless and losing by nearly 40 per game. Moosbrugger got worked again, and was looking for any opportunity to announce that extension to make himself look good. Instead it took Dave Briggs to make it public nearly 18 months later.

[Flipper]

Each September...when Michael Huger casts his shadow on the BGSU campus...Falcon fans prepare themselves for 6 more months of suck

[Diemilkweed]

The difference is Jans can actually coach.

This is absolutely the difference.

Huger can't really coach.
Loeffler REALLY looks like he can't coach.


Yeah, you need to be able to recruit and retain talent to build a program and maintain it, but it's generally fairly obvious when guys can or cannot coach. Huger, for his coaching failings, at least has brought in some high quality MAC talent, and kept it in the program for 4 years. That is commendable, and it's enough to be a .500 or slightly better team. But I don't see the coaching chops (and never have) to make me think his teams will EVER make that 3 game run in Cleveland. He's also had roster construction issues most seasons, and refused to use his entire scholarship allotment; things that have made it even harder on him as a coach.

Problem there is that Huger is several games under .500 in his MAC tenure in league play.

AS watered down as the MAC is these days, not being able to be .500 in 7 years should get you shown the door.