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Globetrotter wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:53 pm Was in and out. Why was elsasser in at the end? And is he good now?
He actually played really well this game, but he definitely shouldn’t have been in at the end. Needed to be Mills. No idea the thinking there.
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Why did Turner only play 16 minutes? I could only see the first minute or two of the game and he seemed fine.

Looking at the play by play, Curtis missed a layup to tie the game with 1 second left on the clock. Given my expectations for the match-up a month ago, I'll take this. We are playing significantly better ball than I thought we could. We are not great or anything. Might not even actually be GOOD. But we are definitely not terrible. And likely not even bad (by MAC standards).
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F'in Akron....I get so, so tired of losing to them. They have simply owned BG for two decades now. BG is just 5-34 since 2005 vs Akron! That is mind blowing! I never thought we'd see a conference foe dominate us like that. That kind of record is what you'd expect to be vs teams in the Top-25, not vs a fellow MAC member. SMH...
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BGSU33 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:36 pm F'in Akron....I get so, so tired of losing to them. They have simply owned BG for two decades now. BG is just 5-34 since 2005 vs Akron! That is mind blowing! I never thought we'd see a conference foe dominate us like that. That kind of record is what you'd expect to be vs teams in the Top-25, not vs a fellow MAC member. SMH...
When we admitted them, I and many people I knew wanted Youngstown State instead because we had beaten up on Akron so much we didn't think they deserved to be in the conference. Thought they would be too week.
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BillyLP wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:01 pm
Globetrotter wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:53 pm Was in and out. Why was elsasser in at the end? And is he good now?
He actually played really well this game, but he definitely shouldn’t have been in at the end. Needed to be Mills. No idea the thinking there.
That defensive contest then he goes coast to coast was a fantastic play.

Still, not sure why he was in at the end, but that wasn't why we lost.
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You saw the difference in coaching at the end of the game. BG had no idea who it really wanted with the ball. Also, not sure Towns should have been on the bench during that time. Akron shut it down defensively. BG much improved since mid December, and will make MAC Tournament.
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Diemilkweed wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:18 pm Why did Turner only play 16 minutes? I could only see the first minute or two of the game and he seemed fine.

Looking at the play by play, Curtis missed a layup to tie the game with 1 second left on the clock. Given my expectations for the match-up a month ago, I'll take this. We are playing significantly better ball than I thought we could. We are not great or anything. Might not even actually be GOOD. But we are definitely not terrible. And likely not even bad (by MAC standards).
We were down 1 and Agee missed both free throws.
Matheny picks the pocket of Akron guard (for like his 3rd or 4th steal)
Off a TO (:28) Matheny gets lost in the wash (was the primary option on the play), Ayers attacks the rim but cannot make the funky offhand layup.
We foul Akron, they split FTs
Off a TO (:11.6) we struggle to get it in and don't get much going, ball finds its way to Curtis who has to put up a floater in the lane, no good.
We foul, they hit, 4pt loss

Overall we were the better team most of the game. We're definitely coming together and at least playing up to our talent level more than I thought we'd see. Matheny is turning into a major + player, and that is HUGE for this team. He's playing his best basketball in a Falcon uniform for sure. Curtis struggled tonight, but it didn't kill us the way it would in the past. We simply had Agee, Matheny, and Ayers pick up that slack.

We lost this game by completely crumbling in the last 3:00 of the first half turning it over like 4 straight possessions to give up a 9-0 run. STill had plenty of opportunities to win just couldn't execute plays off TOs down the stretch (and obviously the missed FTs hurt). Akron had a 20% 3 pt shooter make a bunch of 'em and a 55% FT shooter make 9 straight FTs. s**t happens sometimes...and seemingly always for BG against Akron :(
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guest44 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:01 pm You saw the difference in coaching at the end of the game. BG had no idea who it really wanted with the ball. Also, not sure Towns should have been on the bench during that time. Akron shut it down defensively. BG much improved since mid December, and will make MAC Tournament.
I think they knew what they wanted to get at the end, but couldn't make it happen. Matheny was definitely the primary option on the first play off TO, but couldn't get through the screens, forcing Ayers to just take it to the basket for the tough layup.

Second play was rough, I wasn't even certain we were going to get it in bounds, then it found its way back to Curtis who had the weakest offensive game of anybody on the floor tonight. Not good when you've got 2 chances to take the lead or tie coming off TOs in your own end.
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The combo of Towns and Agee is by far the best combo of bigs in the Huger era. For the first time since Wiggins, we have both protection at the rim, and guys who can score in multiple ways without needing the ball. The perimeter defense has improved but is still lacking. Mills shooting of late has been a much added bonus. The much shorter bench has helped too. Play your best players.

My nightly BGSU complaint. Playing Sweet Caroline during the final media timeout of a really good college basketball game.
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BGSU33 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:36 pm F'in Akron....I get so, so tired of losing to them. They have simply owned BG for two decades now. BG is just 5-34 since 2005 vs Akron! That is mind blowing! I never thought we'd see a conference foe dominate us like that. That kind of record is what you'd expect to be vs teams in the Top-25, not vs a fellow MAC member. SMH...
It is simply unbelievable...living in the Akron area and the youngest Freakling ended up going to Akron. I never hear the end of it. FIVE and THIRTY FOUR over the last 18 years. Kinda glad we only play them once this year but like you, 33, I am so sick and tired of losing to them. :evil: :evil:
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guest44 wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:13 am My nightly BGSU complaint. Playing Sweet Caroline during the final media timeout of a really good college basketball game.
Everyone, everywhere needs to deep six that stupid song....it is annoying and sucks, especially at sporting events.
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Falconfreak90 wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:28 am
guest44 wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:13 am My nightly BGSU complaint. Playing Sweet Caroline during the final media timeout of a really good college basketball game.
Everyone, everywhere needs to deep six that stupid song....it is annoying and sucks, especially at sporting events.
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guest44 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:01 pm You saw the difference in coaching at the end of the game. BG had no idea who it really wanted with the ball. Also, not sure Towns should have been on the bench during that time. Akron shut it down defensively. BG much improved since mid December, and will make MAC Tournament.
End of the game coaching had nothing to do with this loss IMO. Hammb said it best, first half was 17 minutes of great basketball and 3 minutes of a total let down. 9-0 Akron run in the first half and 8-0 in the second. That was the game. We fell asleep for 7-8 minutes out of the 40 and it cost us. Now, I'd agree that's part coaching there for sure. Not understanding the current situation during those runs, letting tired players stay on the floor, not utilizing timeouts, sure. I think you're singing a different tune if Agee hits those two free throw he missed late though, the Ayers layup that hung on the room forever dropped, or if Castenada doesn't make that bs flat footed/off balance 3 with a second left on the shot clock under 2 minutes left. For all the things Huger gets rightfully ripped on, I don't think this one was on him.

Tie game with around 5 minutes left and back to back possessions we literally handed them the ball off the dribble. Like dribbled off our feet into their hands. Never felt like a game we were going to win after that.


Certainly didn't help Freeman having the night of his life at the free throw line either. 9 of 10 and came into the game shooting less than 60% from the line.



Most pleasantly surprised with Mills/Elsasser. It will never be a good thing that Elsasser gets so many minutes on this team but damn, he busts his ass. Somebody mentioned the steal/coast to coast left handed layup he had in the 2nd half and I just wanted to reiterate how good of a play that was.

Mills just has such a quick release. I can see him being the difference maker in some games this year if he stays hot. Kind of a smaller Matt Fox esque type guy? Most nights he'll just hit 1 or 2 threes in 20 minutes but he'll have those nights where he goes 6-9 from three or whatever and hits a big shot late.
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guest44 wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:13 am The combo of Towns and Agee is by far the best combo of bigs in the Huger era. For the first time since Wiggins, we have both protection at the rim, and guys who can score in multiple ways without needing the ball. The perimeter defense has improved but is still lacking. Mills shooting of late has been a much added bonus. The much shorter bench has helped too. Play your best players.

My nightly BGSU complaint. Playing Sweet Caroline during the final media timeout of a really good college basketball game.

1000%. Always wonder how good those Turner/Frye/Plowden teams would have been with a guy like Agee...
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BPardonMyTake wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:53 am
guest44 wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:13 am The combo of Towns and Agee is by far the best combo of bigs in the Huger era. For the first time since Wiggins, we have both protection at the rim, and guys who can score in multiple ways without needing the ball. The perimeter defense has improved but is still lacking. Mills shooting of late has been a much added bonus. The much shorter bench has helped too. Play your best players.

My nightly BGSU complaint. Playing Sweet Caroline during the final media timeout of a really good college basketball game.

1000%. Always wonder how good those Turner/Frye/Plowden teams would have been with a guy like Agee...
I just never understood how the recruitment of Mattos, Swingle, or O’Neal ever made any sense. The way they play is the opposite of the way Huger wanted to play. The Covid year BG would have been the best team in the MAC and probably not close with a big like Agee.
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