Martin Samarco

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:43 pm

Goose wrote:
Warthog wrote:First of all, I am all for discipline and keeping order over the players. But... isn't having to sit out an entire game a stiff penalty for being late, especially if this is the first occurence? I mean talking back to the coach, causing disruptions in practice, not practicing hard, etc are one thing. But simply being late for practice/bus/meeting/etc can happen to anyone. How about sitting out 1 min for each min late or something like that? i just think the penalty looks a little stiff. I don't know the entire circumstances, but if it is simply "late for the bus", I think the penalty was too hard.
My guess is he won't be late again. If that is the case then Dakich taught him a valuable lesson.

But could he have taught the lesson and we still win a game?

transfer2BGSU · Post by **transfer2BGSU** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:50 pm

Actually, he's pretty lucky Dakich kept the bus waiting for him.

The college I worked at in North Carolina (small little D-III program), the bus left early one Saturday morning for a 3 hour trek northeast and four guys missed the bus. They drove on their own up to the site of the game and had to pay their own way into the game. The coach kept their families on the pass list, but did not place the students on the list.

If the bus leaves at 5:00 AM, the bus LEAVES at 5:00 AM (at least it did in basic training - miss the bus once, that was all it took).

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:53 pm

Warthog wrote:
Goose wrote:
Warthog wrote:First of all, I am all for discipline and keeping order over the players. But... isn't having to sit out an entire game a stiff penalty for being late, especially if this is the first occurence? I mean talking back to the coach, causing disruptions in practice, not practicing hard, etc are one thing. But simply being late for practice/bus/meeting/etc can happen to anyone. How about sitting out 1 min for each min late or something like that? i just think the penalty looks a little stiff. I don't know the entire circumstances, but if it is simply "late for the bus", I think the penalty was too hard.
My guess is he won't be late again. If that is the case then Dakich taught him a valuable lesson.
But could he have taught the lesson and we still win a game?

We haven't been winning too many games WITH Semarco, so who knows.

My thoughts are, like you said, that it seems like a harsh penalty for being late. Especially true if it was his first instance of tardiness. However, I'm also guessing that the players are well aware of Dan's policy. I would imagine he's made it quite clear that being late, even once (if that's the case), will result in a one game suspension. If that is Dan's policy I have no problem with him enforcing it, regardless of whether or not the punishment may seem too severe to me.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:58 pm

Again, I agree with having discipline and enforcing the rules. But the punishment should fit the crime. Didn't Steven Wright "quit" on the team a couple of seasons ago and got a one game suspension. Are 'quiting' on your teammates and being late for the bus the same thing? I just think the severeity of the penalty needs to be reviewed.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:59 pm

If it's his rule he better enforce it or the center will no longer hold and anarchy will ensue. Cats will mate with dogs, black will become an official school color and Lefeld will try to play PG.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:04 pm

Flipper wrote:Lefeld will try to play PG.

Might be an improvement over the current PGs

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:19 pm

Warthog wrote:
Flipper wrote:Lefeld will try to play PG.
Might be an improvement over the current PGs

Damn...beat me too it!

factman · Post by **factman** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:20 pm

The bus was held for 15 minutes, he still missed it, and would have missed the plane if it would not have been late in leaving!
It's real simple from what I hear.......his alarm didn't go off. He paid the price and it is all done and over!!!

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:31 pm

In this crazy digital/electronic world we live in, does Samarco (or all players, for that matter) have a cell phone? Couldn't it be a grad asst.'s responsibilty to call Samarco/players when it is close to the deadline and see where he is? :shrug: Hell get them all pagers and page them at a certain time.

Or how about monitoring bracelets on their ankles?

Maybe Fitch could show them how they work?

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:44 pm

Or, maybe the players would work together to call each other to make sure everyone's up. That would be a team looking out for one another.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:47 pm

orangeandbrown wrote:Or, maybe the players would work together to call each other to make sure everyone's up. That would be a team looking out for one another.

"Where's Martin?"

"I dunno"

"Man, coach is gonna be pissed. You know how he is."

"Yeah he'll probably sit him for the whole game. You wanna give him a call and see what's up?"

*pause*

"Naw, maybe this way we'll get some shots today."

[\joke]

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:49 pm

Or since Wright was planning on playing, maybe he went over and set Samarco's alarm to make sure he understood who the shooting guard is on this team.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:54 pm

Was it the snooze alarm or the AM/PM that got Samarco?

UK Peregrine · Post by **UK Peregrine** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:15 pm

Flipper wrote:Was it the snooze alarm or the AM/PM that got Samarco?

Man, it wasn't the snooze. Most people think it was the snooze, but no, no snooze.
It wasn't the AM/PM either. It was the volume. Yes, the volume. There was a separate knob for the radio alarm.

San Diego Falcon · Post by **San Diego Falcon** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:46 pm

I'm all for discipline, but isn't the point of discipline that your players will learn and not repeat the same mistakes in the future? Are we seeing these recurring instances year after year, and, if so, how come? Wrong type of recruit?