Gordon and Reece Dismissed

[Coaches Corner]

The bigger deal here is not the rest of the season. Joe Reece has another entire year of eligibility. He was maybe the best big man we have had in 5 years?

Thank You
I’m certain that he is honored by your words!

Who was the last center that was a quality center on the team?
I’m so interested in knowing..
funny thing Joe never played center before and to hear you say that definitely means so much to us!

[guest44]

If you think the tournament in Fort Myers was stupid. BG spent a bunch of cash to go to Florida for the post season CBI last season. Most likely so Michael Huger could finally put some form of postseason on his resume. The opponent was Stetson who was under .500. They were without atleast 2 or 3 starters, set to transfer, and of course Huger blew it. Would love to see the bill on that trip.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... /401312694

[BillyLP]

The bigger deal here is not the rest of the season. Joe Reece has another entire year of eligibility. He was maybe the best big man we have had in 5 years?

Thank You
I’m certain that he is honored by your words!

Who was the last center that was a quality center on the team?
I’m so interested in knowing..
funny thing Joe never played center before and to hear you say that definitely means so much to us!

Demajeo Wiggins had a really nice career here from 2015-2019. Started as a project and turned into a really talented centerpiece, but the last really great center here was Richaun Holmes who was immediately before Wiggins.

[Coaches Corner]

The bigger deal here is not the rest of the season. Joe Reece has another entire year of eligibility. He was maybe the best big man we have had in 5 years?

Thank You
I’m certain that he is honored by your words!

Who was the last center that was a quality center on the team?
I’m so interested in knowing..
funny thing Joe never played center before and to hear you say that definitely means so much to us!

Demajeo Wiggins had a really nice career here from 2015-2019. Started as a project and turned into a really talented centerpiece, but the last really great center here was Richaun Holmes who was immediately before Wiggins.

That’s HIM !! I heard someone say that in a game… Crazy thing is… Joe wasn’t a true center!!!!!
This man was …. Ok ok thank ..

[jpfalcon09]

Bill frack left 20 million which pays 675k annually forever. He didn't have a wife or family so left money to bg basketball and the community foundation which helps the county south of bowling Green. Money was meant to be used for coaching, recruiting, and scheduling. His vision was bowling Green could be an elite mid major. Money won't change because it's in the will. Sad we have a coach that i think everyone wants fired and no big non conference games especially at home

It was 20 million!!!!! Oh wow that’s crazy!! So clearly they misused the money! It’s funny that you say that because the initial tournament was in Florida against some ….. clearly out of the wazzoo teams Southern Utah and Milwaukee??? Like seriously… of al the competition and all the tip off tournaments.. Ft Myers FLORIDA? It was weird..
but no real competition to truly see what you are working with. And we saw that we fell short there!

There was a similar issue with the Haas family and donations made to the baseball team, which the Haas family pulled this year essentially citing that the money wasn't being put towards it's intended use. The Frack money was to be used to schedule a home game against a marquee opponent, i.e. the Bill Frack Challenge. Lately that game has been against Toledo (lol) and even worse, Findlay a D2 program (big lol). Someone in the local media would be wise to submit a FOIA request to find out exactly what's being done with that cash because it sure as hell isn't going towards what Mr. Frack had intended.

[hammb]

Bill frack left 20 million which pays 675k annually forever. He didn't have a wife or family so left money to bg basketball and the community foundation which helps the county south of bowling Green. Money was meant to be used for coaching, recruiting, and scheduling. His vision was bowling Green could be an elite mid major. Money won't change because it's in the will. Sad we have a coach that i think everyone wants fired and no big non conference games especially at home

It was 20 million!!!!! Oh wow that’s crazy!! So clearly they misused the money! It’s funny that you say that because the initial tournament was in Florida against some ….. clearly out of the wazzoo teams Southern Utah and Milwaukee??? Like seriously… of al the competition and all the tip off tournaments.. Ft Myers FLORIDA? It was weird..
but no real competition to truly see what you are working with. And we saw that we fell short there!

There was a similar issue with the Haas family and donations made to the baseball team, which the Haas family pulled this year essentially citing that the money wasn't being put towards it's intended use. The Frack money was to be used to schedule a home game against a marquee opponent, i.e. the Bill Frack Challenge. Lately that game has been against Toledo (lol) and even worse, Findlay a D2 program (big lol). Someone in the local media would be wise to submit a FOIA request to find out exactly what's being done with that cash because it sure as hell isn't going towards what Mr. Frack had intended.

I've been told by at least one member of the local media that they have attempted to get answers on where the Frack dollars go but nobody will talk; obviously I think we'd all love to get the Frack side of the story, but I don't think he really had any surviving family. I would think a FOIA request could possibly get somebody access to info that would allow them to track the money down but it would be a very tedious task. I highly doubt that the department (especially if they know they're not using the funds correctly) just has a line item that says, "Bill Frack endowment money goes here" each season.

I seem to recall years ago there was somebody that posted here (was it Cal Bowers maybe?) that actually worked in the department or closely with the department that had seen the stipulations on the endowment saying that they were flat out not allowed to use it towards "operating expenses". But I'm quite certain that BG has found a way to get around that little issue a long time ago.

[Flipper]

The fact that a public institution is so secretive about finances is a bit disturbing. They should be much more open to discussing how they're spending the dollars they've been given...unless...of course...they have something to hide

[hammb]

The fact that a public institution is so secretive about finances is a bit disturbing. They should be much more open to discussing how they're spending the dollars they've been given...unless...of course...they have something to hide

Yep. Their budgets are obviously a matter of public record and the audits are easily searchable on the Ohio Auditor site. But it will simply show you an incoming revenue stream of ~$675k as "private donations", along with all the general expenditures of running the program. It is broken down between coaching salaries, game guarantees, recruiting, travel, equipment, etc, but there is nowhere publicly available to connect the dots on the Frack funds and where they specifically are spent.

And there are other oddities when you look at those budgets. Like BG Hoops has $0 in revenue from parking. BG Hoops has $0 in revenue from concessions. We all know those numbers are bogus, I alone have spent a not $0 amount on concessions, but they pull that revenue elsewhere almost certainly because they have the Frack money as a slush fund.

Other expense oddities we've all lamented are the crazy high recruiting/travel costs for even single scholarship recruiting classes. $10k+ per athlete "equipment" expenses, etc.

I would think a FOIA request would be able to uncover actual receipts and emails that might help figure out where all the money goes, but that's going to be a ton of work for a reporter to write a story that the end conclusion everybody already knows: BGSU is NOT using the Frack money to improve coaching, and NOT using the Frack money to bring in better home opponents. I guess maybe the coaching side BG would argue they're paying Huger & his staff a lot more than they could afford without the Frack dollars, but we're certainly not getting QUALITY bang for our buck...They just gave Huger the Jans contract and called it a day.

[footballguy51]

The fact that a public institution is so secretive about finances is a bit disturbing. They should be much more open to discussing how they're spending the dollars they've been given...unless...of course...they have something to hide

Yep. Their budgets are obviously a matter of public record and the audits are easily searchable on the Ohio Auditor site. But it will simply show you an incoming revenue stream of ~$675k as "private donations", along with all the general expenditures of running the program. It is broken down between coaching salaries, game guarantees, recruiting, travel, equipment, etc, but there is nowhere publicly available to connect the dots on the Frack funds and where they specifically are spent.

And there are other oddities when you look at those budgets. Like BG Hoops has $0 in revenue from parking. BG Hoops has $0 in revenue from concessions. We all know those numbers are bogus, I alone have spent a not $0 amount on concessions, but they pull that revenue elsewhere almost certainly because they have the Frack money as a slush fund.

Other expense oddities we've all lamented are the crazy high recruiting/travel costs for even single scholarship recruiting classes. $10k+ per athlete "equipment" expenses, etc.

I would think a FOIA request would be able to uncover actual receipts and emails that might help figure out where all the money goes, but that's going to be a ton of work for a reporter to write a story that the end conclusion everybody already knows: BGSU is NOT using the Frack money to improve coaching, and NOT using the Frack money to bring in better home opponents. I guess maybe the coaching side BG would argue they're paying Huger & his staff a lot more than they could afford without the Frack dollars, but we're certainly not getting QUALITY bang for our buck...They just gave Huger the Jans contract and called it a day.

I believe parking and concessions are contracted out, so technically we get $0 in revenue per game for those services. Instead, I believe we get an upfront payment or end-of-the-season payment from the vendor. I could be wrong, but that would be my assumption.

[guest44]

Good luck with the FOIA request. That will get stalled out to months if it remotely requires any work on BGSU's end. While legally they are required to give the information, they will do everything possible to stall. Let me add that the speed of the response will probably increase if requested by a member of the media or a lawyer.

[TommyG]

There were definitely stipulations in the donation that it was to be used to enhance the program. None of it was to go to the operating budget. I do not know if there was a clause to allow any of it to go to coaches salaries.
In speaking to Kingston once during his short time here, he mentioned it was actually really restrictive. He said anything bought with the money could only be used by basketball. He gave the example of wanting to use some of it for a new piece of equipment for the weight room, but it would have to go in the Stroh weight room not the Sebo because only mens and womens basketball would be allowed to touch it.
Now that some time has passed, the money may not be supervised as closely?
I know for a fact that when Christopher was here they were pulling money out of “enhancement” accounts of every sport and the money was going to help meet the football deficit for coming up short on ticket sales. A few people complained to the President and that stopped. Honestly nothing would really shock you if you found out the money was being used elsewhere.

[BillyLP]

There were definitely stipulations in the donation that it was to be used to enhance the program. None of it was to go to the operating budget. I do not know if there was a clause to allow any of it to go to coaches salaries.
In speaking to Kingston once during his short time here, he mentioned it was actually really restrictive. He said anything bought with the money could only be used by basketball. He gave the example of wanting to use some of it for a new piece of equipment for the weight room, but it would have to go in the Stroh weight room not the Sebo because only mens and womens basketball would be allowed to touch it.
Now that some time has passed, the money may not be supervised as closely?
I know for a fact that when Christopher was here they were pulling money out of “enhancement” accounts of every sport and the money was going to help meet the football deficit for coming up short on ticket sales. A few people complained to the President and that stopped. Honestly nothing would really shock you if you found out the money was being used elsewhere.

Man, we've really had a heck of a string of ADs, huh?

[guest44]

When you hire people who are supposed to be good at fundraising, and they aren't good at fundraising, it's a problem.

[jpfalcon09]

There were definitely stipulations in the donation that it was to be used to enhance the program. None of it was to go to the operating budget. I do not know if there was a clause to allow any of it to go to coaches salaries.
In speaking to Kingston once during his short time here, he mentioned it was actually really restrictive. He said anything bought with the money could only be used by basketball. He gave the example of wanting to use some of it for a new piece of equipment for the weight room, but it would have to go in the Stroh weight room not the Sebo because only mens and womens basketball would be allowed to touch it.
Now that some time has passed, the money may not be supervised as closely?
I know for a fact that when Christopher was here they were pulling money out of “enhancement” accounts of every sport and the money was going to help meet the football deficit for coming up short on ticket sales. A few people complained to the President and that stopped. Honestly nothing would really shock you if you found out the money was being used elsewhere.

If no one is really overseeing anything from Frack's estate including the endowment, then the assumption can be readily made that the university is doing whatever they want with the money.

[guest44]

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“Bowling Green has some pretty serious problems,” Frack said, referring to dwindling attendance at the Stroh Center. “Hopefully this will help. It’ll get people away from their television sets.”

Frack said he was not feeling well, but he still was in good humor, and made several jokes during the press conference.

“I trust the people managing that money to not go to Las Vegas with it,” he said, prompting a laugh from those in attendance.

Addressing the positive effect this money will have for the future of the basketball program, President Mazey responded, “The only way we’ll go to Las Vegas is in the NCAA Final Four.”

Michael Huger had fun on Saturday night.