Lewis gone!!!

MotorCityChamps · Post by **MotorCityChamps** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:08 pm

maybe he should have a press conference to announce his resignation....
jim o'brien is available

MotorCityChamps · Post by **MotorCityChamps** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:18 pm

there is good news josh almanson is still in town he hasnt left the prestigous dan dakich program yet

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:27 pm

hammb wrote:For starters, I want to go another direction than what some of you have gone. Speculation has run rampant, and I don't think its fair to the players or coaches. Those of us that are not on the inside cannot, with any reasonable certainty, say why these players are fleeing our program like Russians from Chernobyl. It could be ANYTHING.

That said, I know exactly the same things that you all do: Players are leaving in bunches. This leads one to believe that they are obviously not happy being a part of the Bowling Green basketball program. Whether this is because of inordinate rules, tough practices, or just the recent trend of terrible play I cannot say. What I do know is that this is detrimental to our ability to build a program that can get into postseason play. I also know that we have heard absolutely NOTHING from the one man that might provide some of these answers.

The time has come where I feel it is our right as BGSU Falcon Basketball fans to have answers. I don't want spin from the SID. I don't want to hear rumor and innuendo about possibly bringing in a recruit or what have you. I don't want a press release from the AD. I want to hear, from the coach, exactly what is going on within HIS program. He went into these kids' homes and talked to their parents and, I'm sure, told them that he'd help not only make them better basketball players, but better people. Now he's in the middle of a mass exodus and I think it's time he composed a statement.

If that statement were to be his resignation, I really don't think I'd be crying over it too much right about now, but that is besides the point. I'm not asking for anyone's job. I'm not asking for that much. I just think its our right to have answers; honest answers. The fact remains that BGSU is still a public institution, and Coach Dakich is one of its highest paid employees. In my mind it is about time that he came out with a public statement to let us know what is happening. If our coach is not willing to get up in front of the media and his fans, then I think it is time for us to ask for his job.

This is worse than losing. I can handle losing. In the matter of months we've become the laughing stock of the MAC. We have lost the one player that made BG basketball fun to watch for 2 years. We have lost the young players that made us have hope coming into this new season. More than one player that is still on the roster has been rumored to have left or going to be leaving in the past 2 weeks. Through all this we have been given nothing to base a factual discussion on. That is a problem, to me. Until we get some answers from Coach D he is only further perpetuating the rumor mill. It makes me wonder if he knows the answer, and that may be the scariest thought of all.

I think I can safely say that I will boycot BG hoops until I get some straight answers. One or two players is enough to be a coincidence, but this is an epidemic and will not be easily explained away by homesickness or not fitting into the system. Something more is going on here, and I just think that the community of BG fans has a right to know what that something is. Dan has built a reputation as a community figure, and a great guy. In all the good he was easily seen and approached in the town and on campus. Now, in this time of trouble, I think its Dan's obligation to live up to his reputation as a visible member of the community and speak to us.

Dan, I'm listening, and this better be good.

I agree that we need to hear from the Coach. That is kinda what I was asking at the begining of this thread when I saw that the press release had a quote from Paul Krebs, but not Dakich. I understand Krebs being the appropriate person to comment on the possible illegal contact from another school, but Dakich needs to step up to the podium and explain his program to us.

jacojdm · Post by **jacojdm** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:32 pm

Warthog wrote: I agree that we need to hear from the Coach. That is kinda what I was asking at the begining of this thread when I saw that the press release had a quote from Paul Krebs, but not Dakich. I understand Krebs being the appropriate person to comment on the possible illegal contact from another school, but Dakich needs to step up to the podium and explain his program to us.

I don't think that there's intended to be any implication that there were some sort of shady dealings. I think that bit about the investigation was included merely as a procedural matter; such an investigation likely needs to be made and is made any time a student-athlete leaves a program or transfers to another program. I don't think that we should assume that because an indication of such an investigation was made that it means that there is reason to believe there was inappropriate contact from another institution or its affiliates. As I think we now all know, it's not inconceivable that Ron just plain doesn't like being at BGSU and part of its basketball team anymore.

OptionQB · Post by **OptionQB** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:36 pm

Perhaps this is the unthinkable . . . Perhaps this is the post many of you thought you would never see . . . But as much as I can post here is based on FACT and based on the truth.

-For my past criticism of the program and certain individuals in charge of it, I am more comfortable having Dan Dakich as the head coach than I am with Keith Noftz ever being associated with Bowling Green Basketball. Noftz is the sole reservation I've ever had with a Steve Merfeld return. For now Dan is our coach and we're better off with him than with Merf and Noftz combined. To back up my point, just ask the residents of Van Wert how you go to three State Tournament berths in four years and you're not asked to come back? I know what happened, but it's not my place to say. For once, the Option Man uses some judgement . . .

-Ron will sit out this upcoming season regardless of where he transfers, as long as it's D-1. Ron will maintain his two remaining years of eligibility. The NCAA clock starts with your freshman year and you have 5 years to play 4. Ron has never redshirted, so he will be able to maintain his eligibility. This is the same rule regarding how we got Pardon for 3 years.

-For the poster that mentioned animosity and disrespect between Anthony Stacey and Dan Dakich. One question. Why would a guy that was disrespected by his coach drive up from Myrtle Beach, SC and bring his dad to play in a rather salty $100/man basketball scholarship outing at Forest Creason on Friday? Stace was there, I talked to him, he and Dakich get along just fine.

-On a side note, no players were there . . . perhaps we now know why. Dan said that he "sent them home for the summer." Cory Eyink's family were the only player representatives there and Cory was absent as well. Pardon and Stace and someone from the 80's who lives in Kentucky were the former players who made cameos. No mention of the Wright situation, no impending Lewis news and no mention of VanderMeer or Robinson were included.

-It's just a hunch, this is not based on anything in particular . . . I would say that Oklahoma could be a safe bet for Lewis. He would join former Brookhaven stars Lavender and Foust out there and DeAngelo Alexander in the past few months has bolted on the wing. Just a hunch. I don't think you leave MAC POY honors on the table to go to another mid-major.

-Hammb, I absolutely love your post. I don't think it will happen, but deep inner-reflection into this program must take place. I too, am NOT calling for anyone's job. No one deserves that. We need to find 2 players that can fill immediate scholarships.

-I am absolutely shell-shocked by this news. I too, don't believe any school contacted Ron. When I first heard of the Wright situation, I had a thought in the back of my mind, well I hope Ron doesn't leave too. I didn't think about it that much b/c I didn't think it was an issue. Perhaps this explains many of Ron's "fog delays" that Grant and Brian discussed in the later part of last season. From Hawaii on, Ron simply went through the motions. He is too good of a player to do that. Hopefully he finds a place to truly show his talent. I am just at a loss, I was hoping that place was Bowling Green. I almost expect Wright to be gone now too, but where?

-This may not be my place to step forward, but again, we do not need to be calling for anyone's job at this point. This is a time to stand together and be supportive of whatever 10/11 guys we put on the floor.

MotorCityChamps · Post by **MotorCityChamps** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:52 pm

THE STACEY COMMENT I WAS REFERRING TO WAS COACH D TELLING AKRONS COACH THAT HE COULDNT WAIT FOR STACEY TO GRADUATE BECAUSE HE WAS SELFISH AND DIDNT PLAY INTO HIS SYSTEM.... YA DAN HE SUCKED GLAD HE WAS GETTING OUT OF HERE.... SO ANTHONY HELP THE PROGRAM BUT DONT HELP A COACH THAT DIDNT GIVE 2 SH**S ABOUT YOU!!! REMEBER DAN STOPPED MJ BACK IN THE 80'S.....BG NEEDS A COACH THAT THE PLAYERS RESPECT REMEBER JIMMY L BEING AT THE DRAFT WITH ANTONIO AND ANTONIO GIVING HIM A BIG HUG WHEN HIS NAME WAS CALLED....DO YOU THINK KEITH MCLEOD WOULD INVITE DAN TO A MINNESOTA GAME OR FUNCTION...
DOUBTFUL...CMON PAUL KREBS WE ARE BUILDING A GREAT FOOTBALL PROGRAM LETS NOT LET OUR HOOPS PROGRAM GET BURNED UP ON THAT GRILL AT THE BOWLING ALLEY

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:56 pm

jacojdm wrote:
Warthog wrote: I agree that we need to hear from the Coach. That is kinda what I was asking at the begining of this thread when I saw that the press release had a quote from Paul Krebs, but not Dakich. I understand Krebs being the appropriate person to comment on the possible illegal contact from another school, but Dakich needs to step up to the podium and explain his program to us.
I don't think that there's intended to be any implication that there were some sort of shady dealings. I think that bit about the investigation was included merely as a procedural matter; such an investigation likely needs to be made and is made any time a student-athlete leaves a program or transfers to another program. I don't think that we should assume that because an indication of such an investigation was made that it means that there is reason to believe there was inappropriate contact from another institution or its affiliates. As I think we now all know, it's not inconceivable that Ron just plain doesn't like being at BGSU and part of its basketball team anymore.

I beg to differ. We have seen PLENTY of guys leave our program and not once have I heard any mention of there being an investigation into the circumctances that lead a player to leave the program. This is NOT ordinary course of business. It is obvious to me that the administation has reason to believe that Ron or a member of his family was contacted by another institution or they never would have said anything like that in the press release.

MotorCityChamps · Post by **MotorCityChamps** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:03 pm

HOW EASY WOULD IT BE FOR A BOOSTER OF A SCHOOL OR ASST COACH TO CONVINCE A BG PLAYER TO LEAVE, HIS HS GETS PLENTY OF RECRUITERS IN THERE.....THIS WOULDNT BE A HARD SELL LOOK WHAT THEY ARE LEAVING

Post by **ZiggyZoomba** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:06 pm

MotorCityChamps wrote:THE STACEY COMMENT I WAS REFERRING TO WAS COACH D TELLING AKRONS COACH THAT HE COULDNT WAIT FOR STACEY TO GRADUATE BECAUSE HE WAS SELFISH AND DIDNT PLAY INTO HIS SYSTEM.... YA DAN HE SUCKED GLAD HE WAS GETTING OUT OF HERE.... SO ANTHONY HELP THE PROGRAM BUT DONT HELP A COACH THAT DIDNT GIVE 2 SH**S ABOUT YOU!!! REMEBER DAN STOPPED MJ BACK IN THE 80'S.....BG NEEDS A COACH THAT THE PLAYERS RESPECT REMEBER JIMMY L BEING AT THE DRAFT WITH ANTONIO AND ANTONIO GIVING HIM A BIG HUG WHEN HIS NAME WAS CALLED....DO YOU THINK KEITH MCLEOD WOULD INVITE DAN TO A MINNESOTA GAME OR FUNCTION...
DOUBTFUL...CMON PAUL KREBS WE ARE BUILDING A GREAT FOOTBALL PROGRAM LETS NOT LET OUR HOOPS PROGRAM GET BURNED UP ON THAT GRILL AT THE BOWLING ALLEY

Dude...relax...

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:07 pm

Warthog wrote: I beg to differ. We have seen PLENTY of guys leave our program and not once have I heard any mention of there being an investigation into the circumctances that lead a player to leave the program. This is NOT ordinary course of business. It is obvious to me that the administation has reason to believe that Ron or a member of his family was contacted by another institution or they never would have said anything like that in the press release.

Agreed. If there is one thing that we should know the SOP for it is how players transfer out of our program. This is the first time that we've heard anything about a pending investigation before the player being released from his scholarship. Through all this one thing you cannot deny is that Dan has always allowed his kids to move on to what they believe are greener pastures, if that's the course they want to take. I cannot see him holding Ron up on this either, unless there is some legitimate issues concerning foul play.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:15 pm

I have wondered if Cleveland State (Raheem Moss) are the new team. We're acting like its someone close to us. You might even wonder if its within the conference.

Post by **ZiggyZoomba** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:31 pm

orangeandbrown wrote:I have wondered if Cleveland State (Raheem Moss) are the new team. We're acting like its someone close to us. You might even wonder if its within the conference.

You'd be wrong... but as there's an investigation ongoing, I'm not going post who I have heard this other program to be. I guess I can say who it isn't though.

Tricky_Falcon · Post by **Tricky_Falcon** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:33 pm

orangeandbrown wrote:I have wondered if Cleveland State (Raheem Moss) are the new team. We're acting like its someone close to us. You might even wonder if its within the conference.

I wouldn't be surprised if the team that allegedly contacted Lewis is ohio state. But I'll stop there because I do have a bias against osu. I also wouldn't be surprised like another poster said that Oklahoma is interested. If Andrew Lavender can make it at Oklahoma, Lewis can make it there.

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:39 pm

ZiggyZoomba wrote:
orangeandbrown wrote:Excellent posts, Hammb and RUIT. I had forgotten about the assistant leaving...that might be the key.
You guys are talking about Keith Noftz... From what I've heard from a couple of different former players, he wasn't the "buffer" you guys make him out to be. I doubt that had a whole lot to do with anything relating to players feeling comfortable at BGSU. Dakich has always been the head coach...he's who the players play for and answer to.

What?! I"m never wrong!........all the time.

Rats.

*Our hero then slinks off into the corner, puts on a dunce cap and kicks a cat*

Post by **ZiggyZoomba** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:41 pm

Tricky_Falcon wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if the team that allegedly contacted Lewis is ohio state. But I'll stop there because I do have a bias against osu. I also wouldn't be surprised like another poster said that Oklahoma is interested. If Andrew Lavender can make it at Oklahoma, Lewis can make it there.

That's what first crossed my mind too, OSU, but it's not what I've heard. Of course, now I believe Ron is a "free agent" of sorts, isn't he? I don't know how this will all play out for him.