BG - KENT

[guest44]

What a horrible play out of the timeout.

[Globetrotter]

the three thery just hit was just awful d

[gmartin]

Dumb foul by Kraus!!!!!! Wait 23 seconds then fouls. Either foul or wait it out. He let his man get open twice in past 4 minutes for two baskets. PLAY OUR BEST PLAYERS!!!! This team is talented but mismanaged terribly!!! And don't give me crap about matchups. I played competitive ball for years and was a coach. A junior with 3 fouls doesn't need to sit after getting a 3rd foul. He should be disciplined enough. This team is our most athletic we had in years. Just don't understand the substitutions. HAMMB, what are your thoughts??V


And Globe, that 3 Kent hit was a screen that Kraus didn't pick up. Once again, play your best players. He has been burnt numerous times on screens and switching

[Globetrotter]

Screen? No way that was on Thomas in the zone. He played off to far

Where did you coach?

Edit...these grouped together make it sound like i disagree, then i am commenting on you as a coach, that was not my intent, imagine they were placed more tactfully in 2 seperate posts

[Globetrotter]

i dont think thsy kraus foul was a foul

[gmartin]

Welcome #9 seed. If Buffalo beats Miami then on Saturday we need to beat Buffalo and CMU needs to lose. If it is a 3 way tie we drop to #9 seed. IF BG and UB tie at 8-8 BG holds the tie breaker and will be # 8 seed.

[guest44]

I just hope BG's players and coaches bring better energy Saturday to close the arena. My biggest fear is another Duquesne or Akron with a large crowd and all the former players back.

[gmartin]

I agree with you on the Kraus foul. I don't think it was a foul either. Just like the crap foul they called on Thomas when they said he pushed in the back on that layup. Very late whistle too. Neither of those calls cost us the game but it did make Thomas sit the bench for 5 extra minutes

[BGGrad01]

Regarding overall team energy/enthusiasm - does this team (or home crowd for that matter) ever seem to get really fired up? I haven't seen this team play in person and I've only seen 4-5 games on TV, but it seems like there is very little energy across the board. They look lethargic at all times.

I have no idea what we're trying to accomplish on either end of the floor. From what I've seen, there doesn't seem to be any activity either way. Sure guys are coming off screens on offense, but most of the time tonight it wasn't with purpose. I have faith in Craw and Calhoun, but most others were space fillers tonight.

On defense, Kent should have scored 100 on us. There was not nearly enough activity within the zones to prevent Kent from doing whatever they wanted. Kent got the ball to the foul line all night and couldn't get out of their own way to put the ball in the basket.

With that said, I can't wait to get back to AA for the last time on Saturday. I can only hope that we have a lively crowd and the team can bring it. I don't want to walk out of there for the last time on Saturday talking about how bored I was.

[BleedOrange]

Don't know if the Krauss foul was his mistake or Orr's. Either way, I don't care. Kent played like crap with a mediocre roster and still beat us at home.

Bottom line: This team doesn't play like it want to win or will ever have any idea how to do so. They don't have the determination to execute. They do not ever deliver late. There is not one single guy that's a gamer in the way John Reimold and Germain Fitch were. I see no reason to think they'll get out of the first round of the MAC tournament. This "young" sh!t doesn't fly anymore. It's March, and they're still playing like they just started practice.

Another question: would it kill either Thomas or McElroy to spend a some time in the f@#k!%g weight room? Really. I'd be surprised if either one of those skinny-assed little girls could bench 200 pounds. Both of those guys are severely overpowered every night. Thomas curls to the elbow all night long, gets the pass, and NEVER can finish. He can't reliably keep possession of the ball against pressure. Thomas has three years under his belt and hasn't added any strength at all. As for McElroy, he gets manhandled and thrown around in the post on a nightly basis. He's another guy who gets physically dominated in the post. I don't see him improving to become an effective MAC forward until he adds 20 pounds of muscle.

From a physical strength standpoint, we probably have the weakest bunch of guys in the conference.

[AyZiggy97]

Regarding overall team energy/enthusiasm - does this team (or home crowd for that matter) ever seem to get really fired up? I haven't seen this team play in person and I've only seen 4-5 games on TV, but it seems like there is very little energy across the board. They look lethargic at all times.

I have no idea what we're trying to accomplish on either end of the floor. From what I've seen, there doesn't seem to be any activity either way. Sure guys are coming off screens on offense, but most of the time tonight it wasn't with purpose. I have faith in Craw and Calhoun, but most others were space fillers tonight.

On defense, Kent should have scored 100 on us. There was not nearly enough activity within the zones to prevent Kent from doing whatever they wanted. Kent got the ball to the foul line all night and couldn't get out of their own way to put the ball in the basket.

With that said, I can't wait to get back to AA for the last time on Saturday. I can only hope that we have a lively crowd and the team can bring it. I don't want to walk out of there for the last time on Saturday talking about how bored I was.

To answer the question about the crowd, the answer is no. At least for the last decade in basketball. Never in the 18 years I've followed football.

As far as the team, it's my opinion that the steady approach the team currently has is the polar opposite of Dakich. Louis Orr maintains a calm demeanor, win or lose. Dakich was, let's face it, schizophrenic. The teams under both coaches play that way. In college basketball, it seems that the team really is an extention of the coach.

[hammb]

HAMMB, what are your thoughts??V

What are my thoughts?

My thoughts are that I've been so disillusioned by the play of this team the past few weeks that I went out drinking to celebrate my birthday tonight and didn't bother going to the game. Looking at the way it turned out I would have been pissed if I skipped birthday plans to watch this snorefest.

Most of what I'm reading here is the same stuff that I've agreed with all season. I think this team is far too talented to play the way they do. They don't appear to have any structure/direction offensively. I saw somebody mention Thomas coming off screens incessantly...this has baffled me all year how he comes off screens but is never open, and can't consistently hit that shot either.

I see a lot of moaning about the substitutions and Sealey not playing, Erger playing etc. Can't disagree with that either. Sealey was awesome 2 games ago and has barely played since. He's far too talented to be sitting on the bench. Erger doesn't belong on a D1 team, let alone seeing the court.

I see people complaining about a lot of the things I've been complaining about all season. Offense with no direction and head-scratching substitution patterns. What has really disturbed me the past few weeks is how wretched our defense has been when it was pretty good the first 2/3 of the season.

I still believe this team is young and Orr deserves at least next year to show what he can do with these players for another year.

[bgsufalcon24]

The bottom line is that, during our "run" of W's in midseason, we were mostly playing a lot of shitty teams. Now we're actually facing some decent opposition within the East division and we're losing. Given how poorly managed our rotations, our offensive sets, and our general energy and willpower seems to be, I don't see how this recent losing streak should be a surprise to anybody.

At this point, I'd be stunned if we didn't lose out completely, finish 9th, and lose badly in the first round of the MAC tournament. The players just look like they don't care. Hell some of the players that do care aren't even seeing the floor because of Orr's ineptitude.

[AyZiggy97]

A little perspective for BG this season.

vs MAC teams with winning records: 3-7
vs Buffalo and CMU: 1-1
vs bottom of MAC West: 3-0

Apparently the end of the world for some. I'm just not sure the hysterics are backed up by reality.

[guest44]

Totally agree with the team being an extension of the coach. BG hired the polar opposite of Dakich good or bad. My issue is that the laid back personality is fine, but this program needs some energy bad. It doesn't have the fan base to go through the motions. It doesn't have the talent to go through the motions. Body language means alot in every aspect and every industry. The Akron game was a true eye opener for me. Go back two years when Coach Jackson got in Clements face and he took his jersey off on the court in the middle of the game and walked off the court. Notice how the team responded. The team had the most energy its' had in Orr's tenure. Jakubowski was Orr's first recruit. He was a huge contributor on that team. He might as well have participated in the half time contest on senior night. Is it not on the coach if a player becomes that worthless as senior after a failry productive first three seasons. It's 30 games into season, this team is not young anymore. It was time for Dakich to go, and if Orr losses out this season I want him gone too. 3 of 4 years of losing in first round of MAC Tournament, especially in this MAC is not acceptable. I'm not the Curt Miller could coach Mens Basketball guy. However, he is a great example of how you can find a middle ground between psycho Dakich and sleeping Orr, and bring intensity and energy the right way. Just end the snooze fest that has become BG basketball before the new arena opens.