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I have seen many comments about Elsasser being OK on defense. Man was a traffic cone. ND hunted him every single possession that he was on the floor and built a 10 point lead off of it.
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Diemilkweed wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:30 pm I have seen many comments about Elsasser being OK on defense. Man was a traffic cone. ND hunted him every single possession that he was on the floor and built a 10 point lead off of it.
He was getting abused. Huger saw it after 2 trips down and had Turner ready to come in, but never actually called the TO to get the sub in...smh...
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Diemilkweed wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:29 pm
hammb wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:14 pm Man some piss poor execution here the last few mins. Matheny can't catch an inbounds on what looked to be an easy deuce. Miss a 3 on a kickouts from Agee drawing the double. Miss a 3 coming over the top of a screen. Then foul a 3 point shooter.

Had some chances but only have time for about one more run. Gotta hit shots and play some defense. ND is getting a lot of looks when we don't get steals. Shooting like 65% this half.
That Matheney play looked to me like he was trying to shoot it before he caught it so it wouldn't get blocked.

He is simply too small, and his arms too short, to score at this level in the paint. That layup that got stuffed by the guy he beat off the dribble (Starling maybe?) was a perfect example. Matheney beat him. Had his body as a shield, extended his arm to get the shot off. And STILL got stuffed from behind by a guard from the other team.

HE needs to be taking catch and shoot 3's and pretty much nothing else. Like 4 a game. that would be fine.
Thought the same thing with him trying to shoot before he had the ball.

He simply doesn't have the creativity to finish around the rim. Yeah he's too short and/or his arms are too short, but I've seen 6 footers finish in traffic in the NBA consistently. THey do it by knowing how to go up & under, spin it off the glass, etc. Matheny simply cannot do any of that. He has to be nearing the BG career record in blocked layups...as a SO/JR
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61-61. Game on the line. Time to get Elsasser in. Lose 82-66. Clearly, Huger didn’t learn from Wright St but why would he ever self assess.
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Here we go….
Towns and Turner????
Turner 9
Ayers 13
Towns 9
Agee 13
Curtis 14
Metheny 6
Lightfoot 2
16:42 “Bowling Green seems a little out of sync….forcing a lot of shots early on the shot clock”
Towns with a DUNK
Took a break whilst folding laundry
So this rotation is NICE. Start with Towns who played great.
Metheny is playing well.
The only issue for me so far has been people shooting way too early and bad shots. The trio….Ayers-Metheny and Curtis just fire up too many shots at times. When settled man.
Right now its. Metheny-Curtis-Ayers-Turner and Agee. That’s a great group. If this group comes together fun.
Towns is a surprise with the depth he brings. I assumed he wouldn’t be much.
Field bad for O’neal but the guys playing at the 4-5 have 27 of our 40 points.
The rotation has been
1 Metheny-Lightfoot
2 Curtis-Mills
3 Ayers-Elsasser
4 Turner
5 Towns-Agee
What a pass by Turner
Ayers didn’t rotate on an easy basket for Notre Dame. Sometimes him and Curtis just space out
Curtis is a statue on offense at times without the ball in his hands
If Curtis and Ayers don’t start taking accountability its going to be an annoying year. On D they just don’t hustle and then their body language seems to be blaming others.
Curtis with a great take
Ayers just had a layup didn’t drive and pulled up for a missed three with no one back yet to rebound. They have no bench. He needs to be smarter and pound the ball
Curtis just took a terrible 3 after an amazing Agee block and save. It’s that kind of thing, wasting possessions that drives me nuts
This season is going to rest on 3 things. 1)Coaching (which has been good tonight) 2)Depth (I have no idea what we have with Mills-Lightfoot-McCombs etc.) 3)Curtis and Ayers settling down and taking smarter shots
I’d be curious how many points Elsasser has given up since he’s been in. It’s at least 4.
Need to work on help D
We are tired..its a 14-3 run over the last 6 minutes. This one is over with 4 minutes to go. 1-11 shooting
We need more depth. How do we
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Some thoughts on tonight overall.

Huger coached very well. I am not sure my brain can wrap my head around it

Sam Towns was playing some SF. Tonight he started at C. He played great. Huger did a fantastic job of finding him and putting him in a position to succeed. The big rotation of Towns-Turner-Agee, no matter who starts, is one of the best big rotations we have had in years. Agee is clearly the best but he pairs with either one fine and needs 15 minutes of rest a night to be effective.

Lets break down the minutes. Essentially Towns played 19 and Agee played 21. Turner played 30. Where are the other 10 minutes going? Ayers or Elsasser it seems. Elsasser played 10 minutes tonight. Is he playing 10 minutes at PF? He was guarding Goodwin. So who was guarding their PF when he was in. I think we should be able to find 5-10 minutes from someone. O'Neal-Felt(is he playing this year?)-Etim-Diarra

Ayers and Curtis are the centerpiece of the offense. If they can just take better shots, make the second pass, dribble out of issues, that can be a very good duo. Combined with Agee and you have 3 very good scorers. Curtis played 35 minutes, Ayers 32. That leaves 13 minutes. That's too much time for the two of them though. Metheny played solidly in 29 minutes. Mills and Lightfoot each played 10 minutes. I don't understand Mills. He averaged double figures before he got here and now he can't get a basket. Lightfoot is 5 games into a career we all assume will be outstanding. If you can get more from Lightfoot a balance like this might be ideal

Metheny 25-Lightfoot 15
Curtis 25-Mills 15
Ayers 30-Curtis 5-
Turner 25-Towns 10-O'Neal 5
Towns 15-Agee 25

Etim DNP, McComb DNP, Felt DNP, Diarra DNP

This team can be really good I think, Every issue is fixable.

(I continue to want them to add a football player. It would have to be an athlete with height. )
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Globetrotter wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:46 am Some thoughts on tonight overall.

Huger coached very well. I am not sure my brain can wrap my head around it

....

This team can be really good I think, Every issue is fixable.

(I continue to want them to add a football player. It would have to be an athlete with height. )
I'm not big on the football player thing. It worked when it's a guy that can actually play, but I kinda doubt there is a random football player that can help this group out. Maybe I'm wrong. We are desperate for a wing player, although if we actually used all of the frontcourt bodies you mention, you could slide Turner over as that extra wing. I do agree there are almost certainly 6'3-6'6 Football players that are more athletic than Elsasser...

Last night was encouraging, although I mostly only caught the 2nd half, 8:00 of which we couldn't hit the ocean from the beach. Still, we were in it up until that point and we were actually setting some screens, running things through Agee (at least once he sensed the double and made a good pass from it). I think I even saw us run some high Pick 'n' Roll and toss it to (I think it was) Agee. Those are nice developments.

We've seen horrid shot selection for 8 years (probably further, to be honest) with every player we've rolled in here. I find it tough to believe Curtis/Matheny/Ayers will stop jacking up crazy shots when they feel like it because we have watched every other primary ball handler in the Huger era do the exact same things. Justin Turner was probably the only one that ever played within the game, and the lack of anything happening around him forced him into those shots anyhow.

I do agree that I really love the talent level of Ayers & Agee. They're way better than I thought they would be. And the combo of Ayers & Curtis gives us some long armed athletes on the perimeter that we haven't had in previous Huger rosters. Although they both do sleep walk through defense way too often, their length has allowed some good defensive moments when they're engaged.
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hammb wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:30 am
I'm not big on the football player thing. It worked when it's a guy that can actually play, but I kinda doubt there is a random football player that can help this group out. Maybe I'm wrong. We are desperate for a wing player, although if we actually used all of the frontcourt bodies you mention, you could slide Turner over as that extra wing. I do agree there are almost certainly 6'3-6'6 Football players that are more athletic than Elsasser...
Trust me. I get that it's a weird kind of create a player in Madden type thing but.....

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