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commonsense · Post by **commonsense** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:41 pm

Considering we shot more free throws than them(26 to 25), and the fact that we had five more team fouls in a game that we purposely fouled down the stretch in the last two minutes of, I am not sure we can blame officials for the loss. Especially when our free throw percentage was in the 50's.

OptionQB · Post by **OptionQB** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:44 pm

A low blow indeed and for that I truly apologizie. However, after sitting at 75%, at least, of all the home games and several road games per year for the last three years, I will not step back from my comments that we foul a ton. We play some of the most god-awful man-to-man defense, at least in that time span, that you will ever see. Our guys are simply not athletic enough to handle most match-ups they get on the defensive end, especially when the MAC season starts.

cowboyjoe · Post by **cowboyjoe** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:04 pm

Don't know why everyone thinks Furman is not a good team. They only lost to Clemson by 11 and Clemson beat Arkansas State 83-44. Furman will make the NCAA tourney this year....mark it down now. Save this post.

BGSUSynchroSk8r2006 · Post by **BGSUSynchroSk8r2006** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:05 pm

Considering we shot more free throws than them(26 to 25), and the fact that we had five more team fouls in a game that we purposely fouled down the stretch in the last two minutes of, I am not sure we can blame officials for the loss. Especially when our free throw percentage was in the 50's.

That is the facts, but I also will ask if you were at the game? Another fact is that BG had something like 10-12 fouls to 2 for Furman with 12 minutes in the second half. Those fouls are including a series in which 3 or 4 handchecks were called in less than 30 seconds on BG. As most of you know Samarco is handchecked almost everytime he approaches the hoop or he is held when cutting. Those wern't called, yet many handchecks were called on BG. While I don't think officials had a direct impact on the loss, with 12 to 8 minutes left in the 2nd half, every time BG would make a run, a handcheck would be called, killing the run.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:07 pm

BGSUSynchroSk8r2006 wrote:
That is the facts, but I also will ask if you were at the game? Another fact is that BG had something like 10-12 fouls to 2 for Furman with 12 minutes in the second half.

I think the point is that this is not an unusual occurrence.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:14 pm

cowboyjoe wrote:Don't know why everyone thinks Furman is not a good team. They only lost to Clemson by 11 and Clemson beat Arkansas State 83-44. Furman will make the NCAA tourney this year....mark it down now. Save this post.

It is a little early to start using the scoreboard to draw conclusions. In the pre-season poll for the Southern Conference, they were picked to finish second in their division in the 23rd ranked conference (by Sagarin). MAC was 13th ranked conference.

This sounds like everyone who said Buffalo was on the way up after we barely beat them in football.

BTW, I'm not saying they aren't a well-coached team. But I think it is fair to say they would be a below average team in the MAC, and they beat us at home.

BleedOrange · Post by **BleedOrange** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:33 pm

Again, only 6 of the 12 available scholarship players played more than 10 minutes. Clements, Simms, Polk, and Sullivan logged single digit minutes.

I too wonder why Dusan plays soooo much while these other players sit. If Dusan can provide depth, great. Nobody is going to tell me that he should be seeing minutes in front of Clements, Sullivan, or Polk on the front line. DD has anointed another one of his poster boys to follow in the footsteps of Floyd and Ryan. Lord help me if Dusan is still starting in January.

Frankly, DD's substitutions have NEVER made a lot of sense. He has a tendancy of starting guys who work hard in practice just to pull them early and leave them on the bench. Or, if a player makes a mistake, he gets permanently yanked from the game. Falling in line seems to be prioritized above winning itself. Perhaps that explains why so many of our players play hesitantly and avoid shooting. It's old.

OhioBobcat · Post by **OhioBobcat** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:25 pm

svillefalcon wrote:Why do all BG mens sports suck? I am really getting sik and tired of seeing us loose every game we play. I want to support all of our guys, i really do, buts its getting to a point where i cant anymore...go ahead, start slamming me...

I won't slam you, in fact, I'll agree with you 100%. I've been saying it all along, and as usual, some of you are finally starting to see the light. Football, basketball, hockey, soccer, baseball, BG's got nothing.

OhioBobcat · Post by **OhioBobcat** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:28 pm

OhioBobcat wrote:
svillefalcon wrote:Why do all BG mens sports suck? I am really getting sik and tired of seeing us loose every game we play. I want to support all of our guys, i really do, buts its getting to a point where i cant anymore...go ahead, start slamming me...
I won't slam you, in fact, I'll agree with you 100%. I've been saying it all along, and as usual, some of you are finally starting to see the light. Football, basketball, hockey, soccer, baseball, BG's got nothing.

Look on the bright side Falcons, with your sparse crowds (use the word crowds loosely), no one is really there to see your pathetic performances.

Tricky_Falcon · Post by **Tricky_Falcon** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:51 pm

Congrats on that great nail biting win over Yale. Also what's up with Buffalo? A 74-44 loss to Evansville.

edr4225 · Post by **edr4225** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:14 pm

IKeepItReal wrote:Just got back from the game and we are flat out bad. We should have all waited until we saw Hamblet play agianst D1 competition before we annoited him a "great player". He does not take care of the ball at all and why was he shooting the damn thing in the last minute. Please get the ball to Samarco. After watching the game I see us winning maybe 7 or 8 games. Furman is probably one of the worst teams we will play this year and we lost at home.

whoa there, you have no idea what you talking about!! like someone said in this thread, Furman is a good team and barely lost to Clemson. I think our team is showing improvement. First of all, we didnt start our starters in the beginning of the game and Dusan for some reason is getting great minutes(that will change when nate miller suits up). I think our team is establishing a low post threat in Marschall and Samarco continues to fill it up. Hamblet did have a bad game, but still had 6 assists and will only improve as our starting point guard. Clements and Moten did not really contribute today, but they will be fine. Sullivan and Larson show good intensity and Lefeld made a few moves. I think this team will be a surprise in the mac and will compete. We were picked last and i think we will make those voters look silly. We have a deeper and more athletic team this year and I look forward to upcoming games. For those who think this team is trash, get to a game and really observe the talent that we have. Lets beat South Alabama next week.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:45 pm

I think it is funny how lots of people were bashing our schedule for having so many lightweights. Now that those lightweights are beating us, they are suddenly good teams.

falconfan1 · Post by **falconfan1** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:45 am

I think we will improve and I am one who thinks Nate Miller will help a ton- but it is too much to expect one player to make a huge, huge difference. Syncho06 posted pretty accurately re: one certain official. Option, you are right- we foul a TON. But if you had seen this particular game live and the 6 or 8 minute stretch Synchro is referring to, you would understand the frustration. Didn't cost us the game exactly- just one guy flat out screwed up about five or six straight possesions.

And he wasn't a player.

It is truly amazing that as fine an offensive minded scorer and attaker as Samarco has to get literally and absolutely mugged to get to the line. I long for the days when Daniels and McLeod were shooting 10 or 12 foul shots every game. Every single game. I realize our offense was different.

Not truly complaining; just reporting my observations on the 10 plus games I have seen Samarco live.

Go Falcons!

bgsufalcon24 · Post by **bgsufalcon24** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:53 am

After another home loss to some lame-ass school I've never heard of before, I am getting to the point where I refuse to see another BG men's basketball game until Dan Dakich is fired. We should have canned his ass last year after that 9-23 disaster, but no, we just had to keep him around. I hate the way he handles his players, his game strategy, his record for keeping players in the program, everything! He is a HORRIBLE basketball coach and if I were Greg Christopher, I'd get rid of him immediately. The damage that has been done to this program under Dakich will keep us in the bottom half of the MAC for years, at least for the duration of my time at BGSU.

The more time that passes before Dakich goes represents more damage done to a once great program.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:08 am

falconfan1 wrote:I long for the days when Daniels and McLeod were shooting 10 or 12 foul shots every game. Every single game.

One thing I've noticed about Samarco is that he's not real good at drawing fouls like McLeod was. For instance, I cannot tell you how many times I saw Keith pump fake a 3, get his defender off his feet, then lean into him and get fouled on a mugged 3 point FG...boom 3 freethrows. Samarco almost NEVER does that, and instead either uses the pump fake to go around the defender, or just shoots as his first motion.

Samarco is a good scorer, and a good shooter, but he is not as adept at drawing fouls as Daniels & McLeod were.

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