Dakich still mentioned when IU job comes up....

Post by **ZiggyZoomba** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:29 am

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a ... /602140468

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Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:47 am

I kinda figured his name would get mentioned when Davis says IU needs "one of their own".

bgmaggot00 · Post by **bgmaggot00** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:01 am

Than let him go. The team hasn't done ANYTHING since McLeod and crew left. Nothing.

Metz · Post by **Metz** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:24 am

bgmaggot00 wrote:Than let him go. The team hasn't done ANYTHING since McLeod and crew left. Nothing.

Nothing in terms of records. They have definitely grown this season and play their hearts out every game. But then again you haven't been to a game so you wouldn't know. Wait for the tournament...

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:55 am

I guess I'm in the camp which doesn't want to see DD go.

I like how his teams play hard. I like DD as a coach and as a person. He really cares about these kids and pushes them to get an education.

Sometimes there's more than a record at stake.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:59 am

I would love for Dakich to stay, but soften some of his philosophies a touch.

Unfortunately, I don't think he will....and if the program continues the way it has been going, I don't think he'll be around much longer either.

At least none of us have put up a firedandakich website like NIU "fans" have with Judson. Talk about class....

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:08 pm

Dakich infuriates me with some of his philosophies and his lack of recruiting/keeping recruits. His bench use is horrid, and he has never gotten his teams to become good rebounders.

Still I love how his teams play with heart and always leave it all on the court. I love his ability to get the most out of lesser talented players. I like how he enjoys BG & how he gets his kids into class, etc.

In the end I wouldn't cry if he left, but I'm not running him out of town yet either. I don't think he's gonna be around for too much longer though, and I'd rather see him getting a new job than getting fired. I just don't think he's done anything to warrant a contract extension, and he just really seems like a man that doesn't have the answers right now. I also get the impression that he actually wants to put these lesser talented players on the court so that he can get the image of doing a lot with little talent.

At this point I really don't know what to think of coach Dakich, but I'm really not sure how much longer he'll be around either...

San Diego Falcon · Post by **San Diego Falcon** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:11 pm

I waffle and flip-flop on this all the time. At the end of the day, I come back to thinking that things could be much worse, and probably not that much better, with someone else,

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:21 pm

San Diego Falcon wrote:I waffle and flip-flop on this all the time. At the end of the day, I come back to thinking that things could be much worse, and probably not that much better, with someone else,

Why?

I don't understand why so many people think this. Why it is unrealistic to think a another coach could do better? There is plenty of room for improvement. 4-5 years ago I would have agreed that we could not do much better than Dakich, but things are not like they were than in so many ways.

Tricky_Falcon · Post by **Tricky_Falcon** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:26 pm

The chances of Dakich actually getting the job at IU are slim and none. Yes he is an Indiana boy but IU is going to want a person that can win right away. Rumors on IU's message board is that they want Thad Matta and that Matta has a clause in his contract that says one of the teams that he can go to is IU. Who knows if that is true or wishful thinking on the Hoosiers end.

San Diego Falcon · Post by **San Diego Falcon** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:36 pm

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I waffle and flip-flop on this all the time. At the end of the day, I come back to thinking that things could be much worse, and probably not that much better, with someone else,
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Why?

I don't understand why so many people think this. Why it is unrealistic to think a another coach could do better? There is plenty of room for improvement. 4-5 years ago I would have agreed that we could not do much better than Dakich, but things are not like they were than in so many ways.

I guess the key word is "much" as in "much better". Dakich has won MAC titles, but not tourney titles. Would we feel so much better about him if those one of those teams had made the NCAA tourney (if Miami hadn't hit that 35-footer at the buzzer)?

The MAC has been a one-bid conference for the past several years and it seems like that isn't going to change, unfortunately. We could bring in a new coach and run off 5 straight 20-win seasons and still be sitting at home each year like we've been recently. I am not sure that is "much" better. OTOH, we could bring in a new coach and have a string of losing seasons and poor student-athletes who don't represent our university very well. I am sure that is "much" worse.

bgsufalcon24 · Post by **bgsufalcon24** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:34 pm

bgmaggot00 wrote:Than let him go. The team hasn't done ANYTHING since McLeod and crew left. Nothing.

I think the same. If Dan Dakich were to get picked to go elsewhere, it would be a great moment for this program because we haven't done anything ever since we lost to Miami on that buzzer beater in the MAC Tournament a few years ago. With his system, we aren't developing our younger players much at all, and we can't win a game in the final 5 minutes because we are the biggest bunch of chokers under pressure that I think I've ever seen.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:46 pm

bgsufalcon24 wrote: and we can't win a game in the final 5 minutes because we are the biggest bunch of chokers under pressure that I think I've ever seen.

I'm not so sure that we're chokers. I think it has more to do with us being below average athletically combined with the fact that we don't use our bench. At the end all of our guys are either in foul trouble, or quite winded. If we have one or two guys fouled out (which is typical for us at that point) then we're playing with only 5 or 6 players that we'll put in at all.

As for choking I like our chances MUCH better with the ball than vice versa (although we couldn't beat OU with a couple chances with the ball). We cannot rebound, and our defense isn't stellar, so I'd rather not have it come down to us making a stop down the stretch. Anytime it comes down to getting a big rebound we're definitely screwed. Especially since you can bet at least one of Marschall, Soler, and Lefeld have fouled out, and usually 2 by the end of a game.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:17 pm

My two cents. I like Dan Dakich a lot. Our program needs to turn around. I hope Dan Dakich is the one who does it, but I know he can't be given forever to do it. Remember, sometimes the next coach isn't better. On balance, I would be sad if he leaves, and I hope if he does its for a better situation. I don't believe he has a serious shot at the IU job, but that's not based on any actual knowledge.

Tricky_Falcon · Post by **Tricky_Falcon** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:30 pm

Here are five who fit that bill:
• Steve Alford, 1987 was his last year at IU: Coach at Iowa; has 11 years of Division I experience.
• Randy Wittman, 1983: Hasn't been a college coach, but was 62-102 in two years with the Cleveland Cavaliers. Now an assistant with Orlando.
• Dan Dakich, 1985: A longtime Bob Knight assistant, he is 143-115 at Bowling Green.
• Jim Crews, 1976: He's the Army coach, and former Evansville coach. He was a Knight assistant for eight seasons.
• Keith Smart, 1988: Smart coached the Cavaliers for part of one season and coached the CBA's Fort Wayne team. He is an assistant with the Golden State Warriors.

This was taken from the IndyStar article and I believe that none of the above coaches are anything special. The only guy that people at IU really want is Steve Alford and that is only because of what he did as a player and was a Bob Knight favorite. It has nothing to do with his coaching skills.

Also on an unrelated note we always talk about Dakich not using his bench if you watch college basketball most teams do not go deep into their bench. You are not going to see more than seven or eight players get significant playing time. Dakich's rotation is no different than any other college basketball team. If you don't believe me look at other teams minutes played thus far. You will find 7-8 players on each roster that have logged over 300 minutes in the season so far.