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Give Dakich a break!

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Some information that all you BGSU 'fans' should read and consider the next time you start calling for his head:

Number of years with 18 wins or more at BGSU since 1963-64 by Coach
Dan Dakich (4)
John Weinert (4)
Jim Larranaga (3)
Bill Fitch (1)
Pat Haley (1)

97-98: 10-16 overall record; 7-11 conference; did not make the MAC tourney (first year jitters)

98-99: 18-10 overall record; 12-6 conference; made the MAC semi-final game and lost in overtime to Miami

99-00: 22-8 overall record; 14-4 conference; made MAC semi's only to get screwed on a heave by Drunkenmeyer; Stacy MAC POY; got SCREWED out of a NCAA bid; got a NIT bid

00-01: 15-14 overall record; 10-8 conference; made MAC tourney @ the Gund and lost to Kent St.

01-02: 24-9 overall record; 12-6 conference; made it to the MAC title game only to get knocked off by a good Kent St. team; Keith McLeod MAC POY and All-American; NIT bid; got SCREWED out of another NCAA bid

02-03: 13-16 overall record; 8-10 conference; made MAC tourney @ the Gund and lost to Central Michigan

03-04: 14-17 overall record; 8-10 conference; made MAC tourney @ the Gund and lost to Kent St.

04-05: 18-11 overall record; 10-8 conference; made MAC tourney @ the Gund and lost to Miami

In my opinion Dakich has gone a good job with our program. He's produced two MAC Player of the Year winners in his 8 complete seasons and made it to the MAC Tourney almost every year and has lost to the teams who are eventually in the championship game or win the thing. 5 of his 8 seasons have been winning seasons overall and in the MAC. Give the guy a break. Ok, I agree the program might me in a slump right now but don't start calling for his head already. The man is a very good coach and has put together some REAL good years for our program and we should of been invited to the NCAA atleast once. It's not his problem that the MAC gets no respect. He represents our school very proudly and loves this program. He also does one of the things that has become the lost reason for kids going to college; he gets them an education and he puts their education FIRST! There are not a lot of coaches in D1 ball that you can say that about.

I personally am very proud to call Dan Dakich my alma mater's basketball coach and will stick with him and support him through thick and thin as long as he's the coach. Every coach is bound to have a few bad seasons! Why don't we start considering his good ones.
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Every time you turn the tv on a MAC game coaches and announcers are saying Dakich is hands down one of the best coaches in the MAC. It's only BG fans that think he isn't good enough. If Dakich does get canned from BG which I doubt will happen (Krebs is too smart) he will not have a problem finding another job.

Like I posted before. It took Mike Krzyzewski 9 years to make it to his first NCAA tournament as a head coach. Duke fans thought he wasn't a good coach and wanted him fired.
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When a coach has been at your school for as many years as Dakich you should not be in a constant rebuilding mode. The last few years we have been. We had a nice season last year but that was due to 2 quality players that graduated. Dakich can not keep players in the program.

Watching last nights game, we are the team that scraps, plays hard, blah blah. This is what people say about teams with no talent. This is what our team is. No need to rehash transfers but wwe have no size and no dominant talent. We have a few average players and 2 big men that should be reserves Holland(too young) and Lefeld(OK, but exposed playing starter minutes. If this was Dakich's first or second season no big deal, but c'mon folks enough is enough.
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04forheisman wrote:When a coach has been at your school for as many years as Dakich you should not be in a constant rebuilding mode. The last few years we have been. We had a nice season last year but that was due to 2 quality players that graduated. Dakich can not keep players in the program.

Watching last nights game, we are the team that scraps, plays hard, blah blah. This is what people say about teams with no talent. This is what our team is. No need to rehash transfers but wwe have no size and no dominant talent. We have a few average players and 2 big men that should be reserves Holland(too young) and Lefeld(OK, but exposed playing starter minutes. If this was Dakich's first or second season no big deal, but c'mon folks enough is enough.
It's funny how you throw away last season due to the fact that we had two seniors. Isn't that what you are bitching about? Dakich not being able to keep players? Yet we had to successful seniors last year you act like it's no big deal.

You want to talk about transfers Raheem Moss and Roosfelt are two for a fact that were basically forced out. Moss was a selfish SOB and Isaac was lazy. Ron Lewis never wanted to play at BG. He always had his eyes on playing in a bigger conference. Last few transfers and no-shows were mommas boys and couldn't cut it being away from home. You fail to mention the player that we brought in from the JUCO ranks that is one of the best shooters in the MAC. Yes we need taller and more athletic players we had a pretty good freshman last year that fit the bill and mommy and daddy wanted him to come home. Tall kids that are athletic are hard to find period and it's even tougher to find one at a MAC school.

Don't even talk about Lefeld he has shown a lot of improvement since his freshman year and is playing well considering it probably hurts like hell for him to stand. It would be nice to have about three other 7-footers on the bench but that's not happening.
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I think Dan Dakich has done a TERRIBLE job this year. He isn't playing our young players in a year where we are not contending, playing guys like Floyd constantly when the younger guys should be starting. He has not done a good job keeping players at BG, as we have guys transferring out every year. But perhaps more important than those two things, he cannot coach once the clock gets below 3-4 minutes to go in the game. We have been the biggest chokers in the country this year, blowing games left and right because we cannot close out a game, Ball State, Akron, Northern Illinois, Ohio, you name the team, we've pretty much done it. The only close win we've had since conference play started was the 2 point squeaker against lowly EMU, and we tried everything to blow that one too. The only reason we won is because EMU gave the game away even more than we did. Our guys, particularly Floyd and Soler just look absolutely lost out there when the game is on the line, and you can't have that out of your experienced players. I contribute that almost entirely to poor coaching by Dakich.

I don't see one good thing that Dakich has done for this program in since 2002. If I were Krebs, Dakich would be out of here as soon as we meet our demise in the MAC tournament, because this program, which was good from 2000-2002, then mediocre from 2002-2005, is now bad. The trend is not good, and that is almost entirely a result of poor coaching or poor recruiting, or both, which falls on the head coach. It's unfortunate that he'll probably stay, because this team will never be good again until Dakich is gone.
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Dan has never been one to coach for next season. He does what he thinks he has to put the best team on the floor for today's game. He's not going to play Moten, Clements or anyone else unless he's convinced they're better than the guy already on the floor.

That's pretty much the way he's always been.
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If DD was some sort of genius he would have been gone long ago. He's a good coach. I hate to say it, but he's about as good as BG can expect to have. If we do get a genius at some point, he'll leave ASAP. DD is now coaching in front of 1,300 at home, he'd leave if the right opening was offered.

It seems to me coaching includes preparing for the game, recruiting and in-game coaching.

DD is good at preparing, not too good at recruiting, and I haven't attended enough games to comment on the third part. He's also had some bad luck regarding injuries.

He's a good coach. Maybe some day he'll be great. Right now he's good.

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Yeah, that Keith McCleod and Antonio Daniels sure did suck. It's sad Dakich can't recruit.
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bgsufalcon24 wrote:I think Dan Dakich has done a TERRIBLE job this year. He isn't playing our young players in a year where we are not contending, playing guys like Floyd constantly when the younger guys should be starting. He has not done a good job keeping players at BG, as we have guys transferring out every year. But perhaps more important than those two things, he cannot coach once the clock gets below 3-4 minutes to go in the game. We have been the biggest chokers in the country this year, blowing games left and right because we cannot close out a game, Ball State, Akron, Northern Illinois, Ohio, you name the team, we've pretty much done it. The only close win we've had since conference play started was the 2 point squeaker against lowly EMU, and we tried everything to blow that one too. The only reason we won is because EMU gave the game away even more than we did. Our guys, particularly Floyd and Soler just look absolutely lost out there when the game is on the line, and you can't have that out of your experienced players. I contribute that almost entirely to poor coaching by Dakich.

I don't see one good thing that Dakich has done for this program in since 2002. If I were Krebs, Dakich would be out of here as soon as we meet our demise in the MAC tournament, because this program, which was good from 2000-2002, then mediocre from 2002-2005, is now bad. The trend is not good, and that is almost entirely a result of poor coaching or poor recruiting, or both, which falls on the head coach. It's unfortunate that he'll probably stay, because this team will never be good again until Dakich is gone.
I think Dakich has done a good job with our program. He isn't playing our young players because their just that: young players. In most college programs the younger players sit for the first year or two and develop in practice and by watching the game to understand the system. And Floyd have been huge for us the past couple of games. He's putting up a hell of a lot of points. Nobody should be ripping on him. And as previously posted, the guys that transferred out never wanted to be here in the first place. Yes maybe Dakich overlooked lack when he recruited them, but this horse is down and dead--move on. Look at the MAC and all the close games. You could them make the argument that none of the MAC coaches can coach close games because they don't blow each other out. Yes were losing close games but thats how the cards have fell. I don't think the guys look lost, I just think our offense doesn't execute down the stretch because we really can't run that traditional offense with guys on the post because we don't have them by the end of the game. We have Lefeld who pretty much has to be the lone big man on the team and yes is going to foul. He's just not quick enough. And Marschall is playing out of position cause he has to and isn't a post defender, that's why he constantly fouls out.

Dakich has done a lot of good things on and off the court since 2002. We could be in the cellar like EMU or CMU but were not, because of Dakich. His teams give the most effort out of any team in the MAC and that has to show for something. Yes we have been hurt by transfers but there kids that could of hurt us anyway if they stayed. They didn't want to be here. We have some really good recruits coming in next season that will immediately help out Lefeld in the post and under the rim for rebounds and give us that dimension we are soley missing this year.
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I belive daniels was recruited prior to Dakich and I heard many stories about how McLeod was not happy with Dakich but we would not let him out of his commitment.
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At one point I was one of the biggest Dan Dakich fans in the world.

It is as plain as day to me that the Dan Dakich coaching our team the past 3 years is not the same Dan Dakich that coached our team in his first four years here. At one time he was the young fiery coach who did everything to get his kids to buy into his philosophies and they all laid it on the line to win for/with him.

Now he seems like an almost tired man with no answers to what our problems are. He tries to push kids and they just transfer and he remains baffled. I don't know what has changed in the past 4 years, but it's obvious something is different. Either he's changed, the climate of college basketball has changed, or something. I don't know, but I don't like what we've been forced to watch the past 3-4 years...
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Not an insult Hammb, just something I've noticed. You really have a problem with some coaches here at BG.
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People didn't like Laranaga either, and he will likely be taking George Mason to the NCAA Tournament for the third time since he left. He is also the all-time leader in wins in the Colonial.

For all those wanting Dakich fired, be careful what you wish for.
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BGDrew wrote:Not an insult Hammb, just something I've noticed. You really have a problem with some coaches here at BG.
I don't have a real big problem with Dakich...I've posted a few things today, just because I like to argue :)

I'm totally fence sitting on Dan right now. I wouldn't give him a contract extension, but I dont' think I'd fire him yet either. I loved what he did here in his first 4 years...haven't seen much of that going on in the last 4 years. I'm hesitant to believe that the man forgot how to coach, but things have clearly been different since he left for WVU.

As for the other coaches we have at BG, I like Paluch, although I don't follow hockey too closely. As for football, let's just say I don't like the direction I've seen the program go in the past 3 seasons...
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Not to get too footbally in the hoops forum but you don't like 2 bowl wins, a final top 25 ranking, a top 30 ranking and two recruiting classes regarded by many as being at or near the top of the MAC?

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