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It is decision time for all of us

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:54 pm
by Bleeding Orange
The dilemma: how do we, as fans, ultimately react to the situation that our men's basketball program is now in?

It may not be so cut and dry once we start digging into the particulars of the issue, but I see two main choices, and I have chosen appropriate names for each (but feel free to make up your own).

1. Cut and Run, Wait and See. This would mean that fans quit buying tickets, quit actively supporting the program, and plan on maybe coming back when things turn around. It has already become evident that a lot of our "non-alum" fans have already chosen this option. Fans who chose this option would probably not renew their season tickets, not attend many games next year, etc.

2. For Better or For Worse. This would be the fan that continues to support the program no matter how well or how poorly the team is performing on the court. This would not be easy, especially for those of us who bleed Burnt Orange & Seal Brown.

My friends, in this time of programatic crisis, I implore you to chose the second option. As I said, it would not be easy, but there comes a point where we have to ask ourselves what we ultimately want from the program and how we as fans can help the program to get there. Now, I'm not talking about forming posses to drive Dakich out of town, or even organizing a fund raising drive to collect the money to buy out his contract (indeed, there are many other places at the University that could use $125,000).

What I am talking about instead is, if you are a season ticket holder, or even were last year, don't choose not to buy your season tickets next year because of the bitter feeling that a 9-22 season has created. Even if you are not a season ticket holder, don't choose to go to fewer games next year because you don't want to watch a poor product on the floor. The only effect that choosing to attend fewer games next year, or potentially none at all, can have on the program is decreasing revenue and helping to create a sense of "well, if no one cares, why should we?" among the members of the team. I'm not saying that the latter has happened, but it can't be easy to put so much time and effort into something as demanding as basketball only to walk out on your home court and see an empty gym while playing in front of much, much bigger crowds on the road.

I bring this up now because we are in a very critical time. Right now, the disappointment is at its peak, the pain its most severe, and the anger at a boiling point. All of us are angry. All of us are hurting. All of us are extremely disappointed. A lot of people have begun to say some things about our coaches and our program that would make a lot of us want to start a fist-fight were a Toledo fan to say it - the anger has gotten that bad. And while it is understandable, we must also realize that we as fans have to decide what our involvement with the program is going to be both in the immediate future and further down the road, and it is times like this when people make decisions that negatively impact the program for a long, long time.

Unfortunately, we have too many people in and around Bowling Green that are fair-weather fans. I can't tell you how many times some of our biggest hockey fans have told me that once the team establishes a winning tradition again, the fans will come back. I have never understood this mentality, especially because not one of those people would deny that fan support and atmosphere are very big keys in recruiting top-quality players. Indeed, you'd be hard pressed to find any player who would be jumping up and down excited to be playing in front of 1500 people in a 5000 seat arena. These same people are also the ones that insist that part of BG's problem is that it just can't pay coaches enough to keep them once they fully develop. How do these people expect the department to raise the money to pay our coaching staffs if they are only going to help out by buying a ticket every four or five years when the program (be it hockey or hoops) is on the upswing? There is a disconnect here that people, for one reason or another, either choose not to recognize, or are simply not seeing.

Now, I must appologize for some of the comments I have made in this forum to some people who have expressed some of the most special rage over the past few months. I don't disagree with a lot of the stuff being said right now, but as Grant has said, I truly believe in the old adage "if you can't say anything nice..." There have been times when myself and others should have taken that advice when challenging some of the negativity, and for that I am sorry. I can tell you in all honesty, though, that the reason I have bristled at some of these comments is because I think a lot of people are far too close to choosing option one when they obviously care a great deal about BGSU and its men's basketball program.

I'm not saying that the "fire Dakich" threads and comments should stop (though they could be tempered a bit, in my opinion). All I'm saying is, that as we have these conversations and bear witness to the events that will unfold between now and the beginning of next season, whatever they may be, remember that this program, this University, needs you to be there and to be there B!G time if we are to see this program aspire to the levels that we all so desperately wish it to. Whether Dan Dakich or someone else is coaching this team next; whether or not half the team chooses to transfer over the off season; whether we start next season 0-12 or 12-0, please support this program.

It may not be pretty, it may not be fun, and it may not even be very enjoyable for a while. But, if we want the program to ultimately succeed, it is imperative that we show the rest of our fan base and those who may potentially be faced with the decision to sign a letter of intent to play for our program that we support the program through thick and thin. As much as many of us would like to be, we are not a "big-time" basketball school that is going to be able to all of a sudden start selling out games when we start winning again. Unfortunately, it is a long, slow, uphill process to convince many of our "fringe" fans that this program is worth their $9. That is sad, but it is a reality that we all have to accept and work with if we want to ever "establish" our program.

Especially at the collegiate level, fans are certainly not simply bystanders observing a game. They, we, are an integral part of it. Please keep this in mind over the coming weeks and months.

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:40 am
by Metz
Very well stated sir!

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:38 am
by Rightupinthere
HOLY SH!T! Is that where you went after sneaking out of the chat room last night?

Gad-zooks! Nice post and I agree with just about* everything; but (Rick) Chryst, is it long!





*I'm not a fan of play catch with twenty-twos.

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:32 am
by dduncan
BG actually did better than expected, correct? Weren't they predicited to finish last?

Was it a year that should be considered a success? Definately not. I think what bothers a lot of BG fans, including myself, is the direction the program seems to be taking. Just look at the past month or so.

I wish I was there to see exactly what the kids level of passion is. I'm not, so I can't really comment.

BG, like it or not, is probably being bad mouthed by every MAC program for recruits. Negative recruiting.

It's not going to get much better next season. Just not enough talent. I think it is time to buy out the contract and move forward in another direction.

As far as people not renewing their season tickets. It happens in every sport. Fair weather fans are the norm. The people who don't take BG athletics as serious as some here, are just not going to justify paying money and time for a poor product.

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:18 am
by hammb
It's a good post Bleeding, but I'm not sure how much fruit it will really bear by planting it on this website. Most, if not all, of us are not abandoning the team. Oh we may be whining, bitching, and moaning about the state of the team, but a good portion of us were still attending a lot of games to formulate these opinions. I know I personally saw Warthog, Option, Grant, Metzger, and plenty of other regulars at some games down the stretch. No matter how poor we were playing the fans from this site were still watching.

The problem is that the more casual fans have no interest in the program when it starts going downhill...and unfortunately your message won't be reaching them on this forum. Perhaps you should try to get it published as a letter to the editor?

FWIW, I think the biggest problem is that a mediocre or bad team creates too many other excuses. I was talking with my grandparents the other day and while both of my grandfathers still went to a number of games this year my grandmothers didn't attend a single one. The answer was the same from both, that they didn't want to walk a mile to see that team play. I think what happens is that when our team is not good people start to really think of the other problems with going to the game...things they overlook if we've got a good team. Anderson really is in a lousy location and parking is a pain for weeknight games. Once inside Anderson isn't the nicest facility in the MAC, either. Combine some of these issues with the fact that the product isn't very good you're going to get a lot of people rationalizing why they don't want to go.

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:41 am
by TG1996
hammb wrote:I know I personally saw Warthog, Option, Grant, Metzger, and plenty of other regulars at some games down the stretch.
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you're going to get a lot of people rationalizing why they don't want to go.
I thought Grant had been sending his stunt double to games the past few weeks? Hmmmm.... :wink:

As for the second part, I think that solves it! We just need to find more irrational people to come to games!!!!


Seriously, it was a good post, but I agree with hammb as far as the crowd you're reaching here. That said, I wish the fans that did come through here were a little more patient with things. Not to say "give the team time", because I think we're to the point where we really do need to start seeing some progress, if not championships, but there have been too many posts about giving up on the team because "they suck". Even if it is true in many instances the past couple weeks, it turns my stomach. People in chat last night hoping we could pull off a 35 point loss, sarcastic or not, was bullshit.

I have no point to this, I guess, I just think there needs a whole lot of deep breaths taken around this place. Even if you're filled with the rage of 10,000 suns, remember that this board is part of a window to our team for not just BG fans, but the world.

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:47 am
by Bleeding Orange
I have to run off to work here and will be busy most of the day, but I will try and address a lot of this stuff more fully later on this evening.

Before I go, though, I do see where you two are coming from Hammb and TG. I realize that for a lot of us around here I am preaching to the choir, but there are still a lot of people around here, in my opinion, that need to read something like this right now. Would it be more effective going out to all of NW Ohio? Of course, but that is easier said than done. Perhaps someday.

I will say, though that there were quite a few people in the chat room last night who I know for a fact live within 30 miles of Toledo who obviously chose not to go to the game and cheer the team on. The only way that game could have possibly been closer was if it was at home. Would these people have actually gone up to the game if we were faring better right now? I don't know, but it seems to me that a lot of these people are dangerously furstrated with the program right now.

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:16 am
by orangeandbrown
Hammb's right. We've been at every home game but two, and will be next year. Regardless. No matter what.

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:18 am
by TG1996
Bleeding Orange wrote:Of course, but that is easier said than done. Perhaps someday.
Copy, paste, email to Blade, BG News and/or Sentinel, done.

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:00 pm
by Rightupinthere
TG1996 wrote:
Bleeding Orange wrote:Of course, but that is easier said than done. Perhaps someday.
Copy, paste, email to Blade, BG News and/or Sentinel, done.
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