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My Take on the Situation
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:59 am
by Salsa
Dan Dakich will know before anyone else if he can't get the job done at BG. And if he thinks he can't he will resign. Of course, that doesn't mean he won't get fired.
If he can't get the job done at BG it will say more about the current state of college basketball than it says about him.
When you see what goes on in the corporate world and in government today, it's ridiculous to think that college sports are any different. The pressure to bend the rules or do whatever else it takes to win has got to be enormous.
So far, it appears that he insists on doing things the "right way", at least as he sees it. I'm betting he will resist the temptations to do otherwise. But you never know.
And to follow up on that, the reason he didn't stay at West Virginia is because he didn't like what he saw when he got there. I respect him for that.
Dan plays the kind of basketball at BG the way he thinks he has to with the players he's got in order to win.
The one thing he has said that bothers me the most is this. A few years back he responded to a statement that a MAC school signed a player who was heavily recruited by a Big 10 school. He said he didn't think that ever really happens. I don't like to accept that. It makes me think that perhaps he won't go after top notch players. But then again, maybe he's right.
I share the feelings of being down, way down, that so many have expressed. But I'm still with Dan. It may not happen, but I think he's one of those people that deserves to win.
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:49 am
by Falconfreak90
Interesting take of things....I can see your points.
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:16 am
by dduncan
Dan Dakich will know before anyone else if he can't get the job done at BG. And if he thinks he can't he will resign. Of course, that doesn't mean he won't get fired.
If he can't get the job done at BG it will say more about the current state of college basketball than it says about him.
When you see what goes on in the corporate world and in government today, it's ridiculous to think that college sports are any different. The pressure to bend the rules or do whatever else it takes to win has got to be enormous.
I think you have a good point in that the current state of college basketball is probably not fit for Dan Dakich's style. At least not at BG. But, there is no way Dakich is going to resign, without compensation. Would you, in the corporate world, resign from a job without knowing where my family is going to be this summer and without a 6 figure salary?
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:18 am
by SaxyIrishTenor
dduncan wrote:Dan Dakich will know before anyone else if he can't get the job done at BG. And if he thinks he can't he will resign. Of course, that doesn't mean he won't get fired.
If he can't get the job done at BG it will say more about the current state of college basketball than it says about him.
When you see what goes on in the corporate world and in government today, it's ridiculous to think that college sports are any different. The pressure to bend the rules or do whatever else it takes to win has got to be enormous.
I think you have a good point in that the current state of college basketball is probably not fit for Dan Dakich's style. At least not at BG. But, there is no way Dakich is going to resign, without compensation. Would you, in the corporate world, resign from a job without knowing where my family is going to be this summer and without a 6 figure salary?
Not sensibly, no... But if I had a 6 figure salary, I could probably afford it...
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:59 am
by San Diego Falcon
Would you, in the corporate world, resign from a job without knowing where my family is going to be this summer and without a 6 figure salary?
That's exactly what he did at WVU 4 years ago. Unless the parties involved lied, BG didn't offer him to come back until after he had resigned at WVU.
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:58 am
by dduncan
That's exactly what he did at WVU 4 years ago. Unless the parties involved lied, BG didn't offer him to come back until after he had resigned at WVU.
While you may be right, Dakich was also at his marketable peak and looked upon as a good guy for not fully accepting the job at WV.
If Dan resigns at BG, he would be looked upon as a quitter at BG, and letting down the kids who went to BG because of him. Not good on your resume and future potential jobs.
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:36 pm
by Falcon Pete
Just my opinion, but DD will not resign.
BG will not fire him either, no $$ to do so.
He will coach out next year and be gone. Unless a new AD gives him some sort of reprieve if Krebs leaves.
DD has nobody to blame but himself and his staff. They went away from the Pardon, Matela kind of players and started recruiting "more talented" players. They got caught up in that and forgot about fitting into the system. The most successful Indiana and BG teams have been a bunch of hard working role players with 1 or 2 big time scorers....Isiah Thomas, Calbert Chaney and Keith McLeod as examples. But that only works when they are the man and the role players do their part. Somehow DD has forgotten the formula as has Bobby Knight!
Or perhaps the formula will no longer work in the modern world of college basketball...time will tell I suppose.
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:03 pm
by h2oville rocket
Falcon Pete wrote:Just my opinion, but DD will not resign.
BG will not fire him either, no $$ to do so.
He will coach out next year and be gone. Unless a new AD gives him some sort of reprieve if Krebs leaves.
DD has nobody to blame but himself and his staff. They went away from the Pardon, Matela kind of players and started recruiting "more talented" players. They got caught up in that and forgot about fitting into the system. The most successful Indiana and BG teams have been a bunch of hard working role players with 1 or 2 big time scorers....Isiah Thomas, Calbert Chaney and Keith McLeod as examples. But that only works when they are the man and the role players do their part. Somehow DD has forgotten the formula as has Bobby Knight!
Or perhaps the formula will no longer work in the modern world of college basketball...time will tell I suppose.
More talented than Pardon? When he was on he was one of the quickest kids I ever saw and about the best passer. I would say he's getting less athletic kids if anything.
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:43 pm
by Metz
Falcon Pete wrote:Or perhaps the formula will no longer work in the modern world of college basketball...time will tell I suppose.
It doesn't work as well as it used to. The motion offense really only works when you are getting played man-to-man anymore IMO. I've seen a lot of teams zoning us this year and it prevents the cutters from having any lane to the basket. Screening doesn't even help because there are always other guys there pick the cutter up.
I'm more concered with our defense rather than our offense though. It seems that everytime an opponent is shooting, one of our guys is running at him to defend the shot. This usually gives them an open shot, and if not that, they can pump fake and go around. When we are on offense, there are always defenders right up on us. Samarco's really the only player I've seen on our team all season who usually has people running up on him while he's shooting but last night, he got shut down completely by #4 from toledo.
Pretty easy to see what happens when your best and almost only consistent scorer is taken out of the game by good defense. It's like hammb's said a million times, we aren't quick enough to play good D.
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:53 pm
by commonsense
Metz wrote:Falcon Pete wrote:Or perhaps the formula will no longer work in the modern world of college basketball...time will tell I suppose.
It doesn't work as well as it used to. The motion offense really only works when you are getting played man-to-man anymore IMO. I've seen a lot of teams zoning us this year and it prevents the cutters from having any lane to the basket. Screening doesn't even help because there are always other guys there pick the cutter up.
I'm more concered with our defense rather than our offense though. It seems that everytime an opponent is shooting, one of our guys is running at him to defend the shot. This usually gives them an open shot, and if not that, they can pump fake and go around. When we are on offense, there are always defenders right up on us. Samarco's really the only player I've seen on our team all season who usually has people running up on him while he's shooting but last night, he got shut down completely by #4 from toledo.
Pretty easy to see what happens when your best and almost only consistent scorer is taken out of the game by good defense. It's like hammb's said a million times, we aren't quick enough to play good D.
To add to that. We will not see the motion offense work untill we have shooting threats on the court. In order for the screens and cuts to have room to work, help side defense must be out of the way. As an opposing coach the only guy I would worry about shooting the ball is Samarco, and Floyd every third game. If I was guarding everyone else I would have them sit in help side and force them to jack up threes with bad shooters. Which happened alot this year. It would also be nice to have a post player who was a threat to score. Maybe Marschall next season.
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:01 pm
by Flipper
The PG is more important than another outside shooter....a low post threat would help too. If we had a PG who could work the ball into a legit low post threat, the defense would be forced to react and collapse. That would open the three.
Watch the ladies play sometime to see this played to perfection. Achter will bring the ball around a high screen from Mann , Mann can either roll to the basket for return pass or slide out to the three point line.
Achter can either drive to the hoop, take the open J, pass to Horn or Honneggar on the wing or dump it inside to Ali. If the defense collapses on Ali, she can pitch it out to Horne or Honnegar for the open three.
The PG is key...Achter is on another level athletically, but she also has that rare, innate ability to recognize when it's time to push for shots for herself and when it's time to distribute. If the men's team could find her counterpart (Brandon Pardon's clone would work) we'd improve drastically.