All MAC ALL Current NBA team....

[Globetrotter]

Just curious as to what guys think....

1 Earl Boykins-Keith McLeod
2 Antonio Daniels
3 Wally Szerbiak
4-Bonzi Wells-Ira Newble
5 Chris Kaman-John Edwards

We are tied with Miami for the most NBA players from the MAC.

How can John Edwards be the best and only Kent player? Amazing.....

I changed it up a little, we will have to play small ball because of our depth at the wings and our weak low post players.

We could win some games with those 8. Another PF would be nice.

Who are the current MAC players most likely to be headed to the NBA? Do we have an uber athlete? What is the chronological order of players graduating in that list of 8. Has it been as long as it seems since we have had a solid MAC player? I think I was spoiled having gone to BG from 98-2003 and seeing a ton of great players.

Ira Newble
Earl Boykins
Antonio Daniels
Wally Szerbiak
Bonzi Wells
Chris Kaman
Keith McLeod
John Edwards

[OptionQB]

Tamar Slay is once again playing on a few summer league teams as he would count as a MAC player. I'm absolutely amazed that Mike Williams from Western never got a look in the NBA. Theron Smith from Ball State would be about as close to post-player depth as I can think of.

I think LeBron will be looking out for his boy Romeo in the second round next year or as an UDFA. I think he would actually fit in pretty well in the NBA with his ability to run the floor. Northern (I think) has an intriguing big man if he can add weight and that's about all from what I've seen.

[commonsense]

Mike Williams never got a look because he is a 6'7 power forward with subpar strength and subpar shooting range. He hit one 3 pointer in his whole college career. He was a decent athlete, but nothing special. He was a white guy in a black guy's body(I hope nobody takes offense to that). He got it done in the MAC by being an opportunist. He was far from NBA material, in my opinion.

[RayRay]

Mike put up numbers at every single NBA camp and summer league he's ever played in. While his never getting a chance might have to do with his body, the other things you said are nonsense. He's not a 4 and never was a 4. He has a throwback midrange game that allowed him to make six figures last year in France. Just because a player doesn't get a shot in the league doesn't mean he can't play in it. Put Mike Williams on the Knicks next year, give him 25 minutes and watch him put up numbers.

[commonsense]

What was nonsense?? The fact that he hit one 3 in his college career? Actually that was a fact. Was him being a decent athlete but nothing special nonsense?? I don't remember him running like a deer or jumping out of the gym. Maybe I'm wrong. The only nonsense I saw is that garbage about Williams putting up numbers on the Knicks.

[BleedOrange]

At 6-8 and 190, Williams needs perimeter shooting skills to stay in the NBA. Hopefully, he has added 20 pounds and added a better shooting touch.

The last three MAC POTY's (Williams, Battle, Haynes) are fascinating to me because they are exceptionally weak, talentwise, compared to the string of players we saw compete for that award before Williams won it. During the late 90's and early 2000's, I honestly wonder if these guys would've gotten a sniff at 1st team all-MAC. Deandre Haynes is by far the least effective MAC POTY that I've ever seen. I've been following the MAC since the late 70's. Hopefully, with the last two MAC recruiting classes, the MAC talent drought is reversing.

It's too bad that TJ Lux got injured after his senior year. I think he would've hung in the NBA. Ben Handlogton, somehow, has appeared on NBA rosters recently.

The Beacon Journal recently reported that Brandon Hunter has looked strong in the summer camps and has played his way into an invite in the late summer. At 6-7 and 260, he can be a low post position defender for certain matchups, and move well enough to guard some of the 3's in the league as well. He's another guy who needs shooting to stick in the league.

I can't wait to hear if Trevor Huffman gets an invite to any NBA training camps. RayRay, you need to keep me informed on that.

[RayRay]

Majority of Mike's points came from 12-18 feet because he could get those shots...you're right, he's not talented at all. Vanderbilt held him to 20 in the first half of the NCAA tournament game then mugged himin the second half when nobody else from WMU could step up. The comment about him putting up #s in the league was just something I reiterated after hearing some scouts talk about him. And yes he did dunk once in a while but not often. Funny I always thought his anticipation was exceptional. He always seemed to be in the right place to make a key steal or block or get the key rebound. But yeah he's not a good athlete and he's lucky to have been in the MAC when he was. Cheers. Kind of incredible really to put up those #s without the three though huh? And the one he did it -- wasn't that kind of a big shot?

[RayRay]

Your points weren't nonsense. I just disagree with them. Sometimes I think the ability to produce is put aside while things like athleticism are put to the forefront. I truly believe Will could play in the league with his anticipation for being in the right place (something you pointed out) and his ability to score the ball. I just think that anticipation gets looked at as "opportunistic" instead of "talented" and I don't like that. Cheers.

[Flipper]

I agree with BleedOrange...the MAC really seems to lack the "superstars" that it's had in year's past. When I was a kid there were guys like Trent Grooms and Burrell MgHee at Kent, Danny Roundfleld, Jim McElroy, Ben Poquette and later Mel McGlaughlin at CMU. UT had guys like Knuckles, Miller and Swaney....lately you had guys like Hunter, Theron Smith, Antonio Gates...you wanted to head out to AA even if was 10 below if those guys were in town.

Who do you want to see today?

[RayRay]

Good point, I think the talent level is lifting though with the Frosh/Soph's around the league, not to mention some of the early verbals from Indiana kids (Hairston Ft Wayne). It's a concern that's being addressed league wide with the recruiting efforts -- I know Ramsey at EMU has stressed the need to increase the talent in the league to a level it was before. I also think these things go in cycles and lets face it -- leagues like the MAC have to be lucky sometimes to get great players because the bigger one's overlook a Majerle, Szcerbiak,Trevor Huffman, Earl Boykins, AD , Keith, Bonzi etc. I can't name one player from either the MVC or the CAA currently that would excite me as much as any of those guys so maybe it's a commonality not exclusive to the MAC

[BGSUfalcons]

Just curious as to what guys think....

1 Earl Boykins-Keith McLeod
2 Antonio Daniels
3 Wally Szerbiak
4-Bonzi Wells-Ira Newble
5 Chris Kaman-John Edwards

We are tied with Miami for the most NBA players from the MAC.

How can John Edwards be the best and only Kent player? Amazing.....

I changed it up a little, we will have to play small ball because of our depth at the wings and our weak low post players.

We could win some games with those 8. Another PF would be nice.

Who are the current MAC players most likely to be headed to the NBA? Do we have an uber athlete? What is the chronological order of players graduating in that list of 8. Has it been as long as it seems since we have had a solid MAC player? I think I was spoiled having gone to BG from 98-2003 and seeing a ton of great players.

Ira Newble
Earl Boykins
Antonio Daniels
Wally Szerbiak
Bonzi Wells
Chris Kaman
Keith McLeod
John Edwards

Among centers, Kaman was 4th in rebounds/game and 11th in points/game and he is rapidly improving. I think he'll be good for about 15 ppg, 10.5 rpg next year. I'd take him before any of the other MAC players.

[RayRay]

Kaman is about to be paid -- Definitely true.

[BleedOrange]

Funny. We chose not to recruit kaman b/c one of our assistants said he wasn't that good.

[Globetrotter]

which assistant was that?

[BleedOrange]

Not sure. However, well after the fact, DD said that he should've been fired (probably jokingly).