.263 and 4 starts

BGSU Men's Basketball!!
User avatar
Globetrotter
Turbo
Turbo
Posts: 11359
Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:17 am

.263 and 4 starts

Post by Globetrotter »

Can anyone who has seen a game tell me what Radivojec has to offer that he has started all four games and played a substantial amount of minutes?
His FG % is .263 That is horrible.

Where has Larsen been the last two games?

Is Maschall our second best player? He started at C today....even with all of the height we added. Is averaging over 10ppg this year without much help in the post. There was some thought he might be best suited at SF.

How much have we over-rated Sullivan? He needs to get out there and eat some baskteballs!
commonsense
Chick
Chick
Posts: 207
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:15 pm

Here is why

Post by commonsense »

This is a direct quote from Falconboy about Radevojevic...... "He should be a bigger, stronger, possibly faster, no definilty faster, quicker version of John Reimold for us this year." Either he is going through a rough stretch or Falconboy has a tough time judging players.
User avatar
hammb
The Stabber of Cherries
The Stabber of Cherries
Posts: 14434
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:21 am
Location: Bowling Green

Post by hammb »

Dusan was AWFUL for the first half today, but he did make some nice plays in the 2nd. He made a 3 pointer and a couple big FT's as well. He had a few nice passes for assists, but they were far outnumbered by his turnovers (although I haven't looked at the box score just yet). He is pretty bad on defense.

In all, I don't think the kid offers a whole heckuva lot, but I'm not the coach...I guess he practices well. No clue why Dan plays him so many minutes, he doesn't earn them in the games.

Marschall looked very good in the first half today, but disappeared for most of the 2nd half. He's terrible defensively and fouls a TON. On offense he's a good finisher, and also does a good job passing the ball from the post. He's a valuable offensive player, but a liability on the other end. I just wish he could play poor defense without the fouls...he takes himself out of the offensive end.

In the 2 scrimmages I saw I thought Sullivan looked pretty good, but when he was in there today he did nothing. On defense he did nothing to impress, and on offense he did a lot of standing around beyond the 3pt line...not real valuable as a PF out there.

The real question I had today was why Dan didn't go with Bland and Polk in the 2nd half today. Bland was the only one that seemed to have the quicks to stay with #5, and Polk did a great job getting a big block and altering a few shots in the first half.

Still, that was one of the best games I've seen in Anderson in a few years. The game was tight the entire way (biggest lead was 10, I believe), and a buzzer beater for the victory. Can you ask for anything more? (Well I guess I'd like Samarco to bury a couple FTs and we wouldn't need a buzzer beater, but oh well).
User avatar
Jacobs4Heisman
a.k.a. Capt. Rex Kramer
a.k.a. Capt. Rex Kramer
Posts: 7889
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:59 pm
Location: Aliquippa, PA

Post by Jacobs4Heisman »

Anybody remember John Floyd?

Question answered.
Roll Along!
User avatar
Globetrotter
Turbo
Turbo
Posts: 11359
Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:17 am

Post by Globetrotter »

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Anybody remember John Floyd?

Question answered.
Disagree. John Floyd may have been a defensive liability but the kid overachieved in my mind if you look at his ability. He would go off and score a bunch some games and was something like 2nd or 5th in the MAc in assists his soph year. He would have been a great bench player.

I think you may be on to something if you did not mean in terms of ability. Getting a player to come all the way from Europe might be similar to getting a player to transfer. Maybe he made some promises he never should have made to both. And dakich being a very good man....is and has kept them.
User avatar
Jacobs4Heisman
a.k.a. Capt. Rex Kramer
a.k.a. Capt. Rex Kramer
Posts: 7889
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:59 pm
Location: Aliquippa, PA

Post by Jacobs4Heisman »

I meant he seems to be the guys that is getting PT based on some reason other than how good he is at basketball.

This season's John Floyd if you will.
Roll Along!
User avatar
orangeandbrown
Peregrine
Peregrine
Posts: 3542
Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:00 pm
Location: Saline, MI
Contact:

Post by orangeandbrown »

FWIW, it was his best game as a Falcon, in my opinion. He was helpful as we did a better job against full court pressure than we did any time last season.
User avatar
Flipper
The Global Village Idiot
The Global Village Idiot
Posts: 18396
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:01 am
Location: Ida Twp, MI

Post by Flipper »

Who is Dusan taking minutes from? Sullivan? Will Dusan see as much time when Miller can play? I do not know.
User avatar
BleedOrange
Falcon Hoops Lifer
Falcon Hoops Lifer
Posts: 3064
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:51 pm
Location: Fairlawn, Ohio

Post by BleedOrange »

Last year, out of basic compassion, I pleaded with some of you to give the FR foreigner Dusan the grace of one year before dropping the hammer. Time's up.

Dusan was very ineffective yesterday. He especially hurt us against South Alabama's good full court pressure. Numerous times, he was inattentive and either almost missed passes or missed the open man near the basket. All around, he was unproductive.

I too have yet to see any reason why Dusan should be on the floor. He brings NOTHING to the table. Why he would take time from Larson, Polk, Moten, or Sullivan is completely inexplicable. Dusan has taken over as DD's poster boy. I suggest that you all stop wasting energy wondering why he's playing in front of others. We have seen this routine before.

I propose a name change: instead of Dusan, how about Dusan't?

Dusan't rebound.
Dusan't draw fouls.
Dusan't move well without the ball.
Dusan't defend.
Dusan't post up.
Dusan't have speed.
Dusan't protect handle against perimeter pressure.
Dusan't penetrate.
Dusan't release quickly enough to get his shot off.
Dusan't leap.
User avatar
hammb
The Stabber of Cherries
The Stabber of Cherries
Posts: 14434
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:21 am
Location: Bowling Green

Post by hammb »

BleedOrange wrote: Dusan't release quickly enough to get his shot off.
.
This is the one that jumped out at me the first time I saw Dusan play. He may have the best jumpshot in the country in practice, I don't know, but in the games his release is SO SLOW that he rarely seems to get the shot off. He has to be completely wide open to get his looks, and given that he's slow and doesn't move well without the ball, that doesn't come up real often.

He also seems to lack confidence as there were a number of instances where he WAS wide open yesterday and he still didn't take the shot.

I'm not real enamored with Dusan's play, but I"m not convinced the guys on the bench are much better options. I'd like to see them get equal time to see who performs better, but that's not Dan's style. He'll pick a favorite player and stick with him through thick & thin.
User avatar
svillefalcon
Peregrine
Peregrine
Posts: 1281
Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:38 pm
Location: Cleveland, OH
Contact:

Post by svillefalcon »

how in the world does this kid have a scholly? He is on Floyd's level of play, and that is like junior high level. In all honestly my roommate should be on this team. He can lock up anyone defensively and can penetrate. He would be a good player for BG.
BGSU fan for LIFE!!!!

FEAR THE BIRD!

Image
User avatar
BleedOrange
Falcon Hoops Lifer
Falcon Hoops Lifer
Posts: 3064
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:51 pm
Location: Fairlawn, Ohio

Post by BleedOrange »

hammb wrote:
BleedOrange wrote: Dusan't release quickly enough to get his shot off.
.

... but I"m not convinced the guys on the bench are much better options....

Whew, that's very dark, hammb.
rangermarkb
Egg
Egg
Posts: 24
Joined: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:52 am
Location: Indianapolis

Post by rangermarkb »

No wonder other MAC coaches are telling recruits in football and basketball to look at this board with all the negetivity on it. BG just beat a NCAA Tournament Team in front of a JV crowd and there are more negative posts than positive. WOW. The MAC coaches are smart why would a kid want to come to BG and constatly be put down by his own. No wonder Larranaga became a better Coach when he left BG.
Falconboy
John Lovett's Successor
John Lovett's Successor
Posts: 5357
Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:40 pm
Location: Columbus
Contact:

Re: Here is why

Post by Falconboy »

commonsense wrote:This is a direct quote from Falconboy about Radevojevic...... "He should be a bigger, stronger, possibly faster, no definilty faster, quicker version of John Reimold for us this year." Either he is going through a rough stretch or Falconboy has a tough time judging players.
Well, I should've put more emphasis on the SHOULD be a faster, quicker version of JR. It looks as though I could be wrong on the being a new version of JR for us, but he's cleary more athletic than John Reimold (though maybe not by as much as originally thought) and you know that if you ever saw JR play here for 3 years. JR was as slow as mollasses left out in 10 degree weather.

I certainly agree Dusan's shot release is to slow for him to ever be a real threat. If we had a dominating post game he might get more open looks but that isnt happening anytime soon.
Mid-2000's Anderson Animal
User avatar
hammb
The Stabber of Cherries
The Stabber of Cherries
Posts: 14434
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:21 am
Location: Bowling Green

Post by hammb »

BleedOrange wrote:
hammb wrote:
BleedOrange wrote: Dusan't release quickly enough to get his shot off.
.

... but I"m not convinced the guys on the bench are much better options....

Whew, that's very dark, hammb.
I don't mean that as a total indictment of their talent. I've actually seen some things from them that I have liked. However, I haven't seen enough of those guys to really be convinced that the guys on the bench are better than Dusan. I think they likely are, but I don't know for sure.

Let's look at who he's taking minutes away from?

Lionel Sullivan was pretty impressive in the preseason scrimmages. I expected him to take some minutes away from Marschall because he looked better in those games than Marschall did. However, in yesterday's game Sullivan played a couple minutes and looked lost offensively. He was wandering around the 3 point arc, and that's not where he belongs. From what I saw yesterday he's still not ready to play serious minutes.

Moten hasn't really done anything to impress me that he's any better than Dusan. Both came in with reps as good shooters, but neither have really shown a thing. Moten may be a better athlete, but that's debatable...they're both catch'n'shoot type guys at best.

Not sure who else he's really taking minutes away from. Polk has not played enough, IMO. He was pretty impressive yesterday in limited action in the first half, then didn't play much (if at all) in the 2nd half. His biggest problem, however, is that he gets real winded and then he's ineffective. We knew when we recruited him that he was out of shape, and until he gets in better shape he's only effective for limited stretches. I would like to see more of his limited stretches, because he's a body few in the MAC can matchup with on both ends of the court.

Not sure he's taking minutes away from Sims, but Sims is averaging almost 10 mpg. If he is taking minutes away from Ryan that is a shame. Sims is putting up similar production in less than half the minutes played. He's also shooting a much better percentage, especially from three. One observation I had yesterday (in opposite of Dusan) is that Sims has a real quick release on his jumper. I think we'll see more of him as the year goes on.

Other than that who are we really taking minutes away from to play Dusan? Are they better options? Right now Dusan is struggling, and I've been on record to say that I didn't think he deserved a D1 scholly, but he's here now we may as well use him some. With all the unproven talent on this team, I think they should split the minutes up more evenly to see what some of these guys can do. At this point Dusan is certainly struggling, and I'd like to see more of the other guys. Apparently Dan disagrees...


As for ranger, I don't care what other MAC coaches are telling recruits. Every message board in the country has it's fair share of complaining, and I think this board does a much better job keeping it rational and fair than most. Right now it seems like there's more complaining than anything else, but that's because we suck at football, basketball, and hockey. When I first found this board everyone (including myself) was applauding the program. Dakich had just led us to another 20 win season (getting screwed out of the NCAA), and Urban Meyer had resurrected the football program. Life was good. Unfortunately when you struggle to win 15 games in the 2 major sports combined you're going to get a lot of negativity. I do agree that it's a shame there is less talk about yesterday's game, but I may start a new thread for that...
Post Reply