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For me, this is the defining game. We'll see what happens on 3/10. Concerning this program, that's the only thing we can now look forward to. Hopefully, the search yields results quickly enough so that the new coach has time to recruit for the spring signing period.

I like our collection of players, for the most part. This team should have seen more success than it has. I hope that most of the guys stay for next year. We'll return a good front line in Miller, Marcshall, and Polk.

BleedOrange wrote:For me, this is the defining game. We'll see what happens on 3/10. Concerning this program, that's the only thing we can now look forward to. Hopefully, the search yields results quickly enough so that the new coach has time to recruit for the spring signing period.

I like our collection of players, for the most part. This team should have seen more success than it has. I hope that most of the guys stay for next year. We'll return a good front line in Miller, Marcshall, and Polk.

I am not sure this team should have seen more success than it has. I will actually give credit to the team for the success that they had in their non-conference schedule, regardless of who they played. Look at last years team and who they lost in Wright, Floyd, and Soler (major contributors) and see that we replaced them with Hamblett and Miller. Hamblett is not better than Floyd or Wright in any capacity (except rebounding better than Floyd). Miller is better than Soler by about 5 points a game. Add in that Lefeld has become a complete non-factor, and no other returning players improved much, and you have a worse team. This should be a suprise to no one. Except those that actually believed the quotes coaches and players made about Wright and Floyd being the cause of the problems.

Hamblett made 1 three point shot today, that makes him three points better than Floyd ever was. He also didn't commit any turnovers (at lest not any that I can remember, which means they didn't stand out like the millions of turnovers by Duece) so that also makes him better than Floyd. He can also play defense, yet another spot that puts him on top of Floyd. Give me a break dude, Floyd was terrible. The only thing Jon had on Ryne is that he never gives less than 200% effort.

Hamblett is a better player than Floyd and Wright. He's not All-MAC, but he's a better player.

The Niz wrote:Hamblett made 1 three point shot today, that makes him three points better than Floyd ever was. He also didn't commit any turnovers (at lest not any that I can remember, which means they didn't stand out like the millions of turnovers by Duece) so that also makes him better than Floyd. He can also play defense, yet another spot that puts him on top of Floyd. Give me a break dude, Floyd was terrible. The only thing Jon had on Ryne is that he never gives less than 200% effort.

Ryne Hamblett is averaging 8.5ppg, John Floyd averaged 9.7 last season.

Ryne Hamblett shoots 35.8% from the field, Floyd 40.8 last season.

Hamblett had 0 to's today, but 6 on Wednesday with no assists.

Hamblett has 75 to's with 5 games left, Floyd had 69 last season.

Floyd led the MAC in assists as a sophmore.

Hamblett has yet to keep another MAC point guard from penetrating the middle whenever he wants.

You forgot that Floyd also has an 18 win season at Bowling Green.

orangeandbrown wrote:Hamblett is a better player than Floyd and Wright. He's not All-MAC, but he's a better player.

Based on what. Worse stats on a worse team than Floyd or Wright? If he was better than them, and we added Miller. Samarco stays the same and so does Marschall, how do we get worse? Somebody provide a factual answer.

commonsense wrote:

The Niz wrote:Hamblett made 1 three point shot today, that makes him three points better than Floyd ever was. He also didn't commit any turnovers (at lest not any that I can remember, which means they didn't stand out like the millions of turnovers by Duece) so that also makes him better than Floyd. He can also play defense, yet another spot that puts him on top of Floyd. Give me a break dude, Floyd was terrible. The only thing Jon had on Ryne is that he never gives less than 200% effort.

Ryne Hamblett is averaging 8.5ppg, John Floyd averaged 9.7 last season.

Ryne Hamblett shoots 35.8% from the field, Floyd 40.8 last season.

Hamblett had 0 to's today, but 6 on Wednesday with no assists.

Hamblett has 75 to's with 5 games left, Floyd had 69 last season.

Floyd led the MAC in assists as a sophmore.

Hamblett has yet to keep another MAC point guard from penetrating the middle whenever he wants.

You forgot that Floyd also has an 18 win season at Bowling Green.

Wow. I don't really have the energy to refute this right now, but let me try two:

WHO exactly had an 18 win season at BG? Was it Floyd or was it Reimold and Almanson?

Name me one time John Floyd stopped anyone from doing whatever they wanted when they had the ball? Or didn't have the ball?

Floyd was also a senior last year, what year is Hamblett now??

Floyd was also a major part of the game plan last year. This year the only players that seem to be in the game plan are Samarco and Miller. Definately not Hamblett.

If nothing else I'll take Hamblett on the fact that it takes him less than 10 full seconds to run down the court unlike Floyd. Speed is a major factor in this game.

orangeandbrown wrote:

commonsense wrote:

The Niz wrote:Hamblett made 1 three point shot today, that makes him three points better than Floyd ever was. He also didn't commit any turnovers (at lest not any that I can remember, which means they didn't stand out like the millions of turnovers by Duece) so that also makes him better than Floyd. He can also play defense, yet another spot that puts him on top of Floyd. Give me a break dude, Floyd was terrible. The only thing Jon had on Ryne is that he never gives less than 200% effort.

Ryne Hamblett is averaging 8.5ppg, John Floyd averaged 9.7 last season.

Ryne Hamblett shoots 35.8% from the field, Floyd 40.8 last season.

Hamblett had 0 to's today, but 6 on Wednesday with no assists.

Hamblett has 75 to's with 5 games left, Floyd had 69 last season.

Floyd led the MAC in assists as a sophmore.

Hamblett has yet to keep another MAC point guard from penetrating the middle whenever he wants.

You forgot that Floyd also has an 18 win season at Bowling Green.

Wow. I don't really have the energy to refute this right now, but let me try two:

WHO exactly had an 18 win season at BG? Was it Floyd or was it Reimold and Almanson?

Name me one time John Floyd stopped anyone from doing whatever they wanted when they had the ball? Or didn't have the ball?

If I can only name one time that he stopped someone, I better use a head to head match up with a 1st team all MAC performer from the champion Miami Redhawks. Chet Mason, played 36 minutes that day was 2-8 from the field and had six points and 4 to's. Floyd played 37 minutes had 10 assists 2 to's. It was 2-27-05, BG wins. The debate is not if Floyd was a superstar, it is that he is better than Hamblett, and nothing logical says that Hamblett is a better player.

The Niz wrote:Floyd was also a senior last year, what year is Hamblett now??

Floyd was also a major part of the game plan last year. This year the only players that seem to be in the game plan are Samarco and Miller. Definately not Hamblett.

If nothing else I'll take Hamblett on the fact that it takes him less than 10 full seconds to run down the court unlike Floyd. Speed is a major factor in this game.

Now your making a fool of yourself. Let me help you out before you hurt yourself. Floyd was a junior last year, same as Hamblett this year. If Floyd was a major part of the game plan and took 8.1 shots per game last year. I think Hamblett taking 8.3 shots per game would put him on the same level. If Hambletts speed is such a factor, where are the results?

Who cares if Hmblett is better than Floyd or vice versa? You aren't winning the MAC with either of those guys as a starter.

Fair enough. I will also admit to being surprised at how poor the numbers looked in that comparison.

Hamblett is so much better than Floyd that it's funny you are even having this discussion!

Rollo83 wrote:Hamblett is so much better than Floyd that it's funny you are even having this discussion!

Explain yourself. Present a respectable argument, and back it up with something solid, and I will agree with you.

commonsense wrote:

Rollo83 wrote:Hamblett is so much better than Floyd that it's funny you are even having this discussion!

Explain yourself. Present a respectable argument, and back it up with something solid, and I will agree with you.

Hamblett is much more athletic, a much better defender, rebounder and longer. He is not an ideal point guard but has his moments there. He can get hot from the outside shooting and has the size to play the two. You can win in the MAC with Hamblett as your fourth or fifth best player. If we had a point to pair with him who could score and distribute I think he would be fine next season.