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An alarming trend for BG vs. MAC opponents
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:46 pm
by BGSU33
Yes, this is a glass half-empty post and I am well aware of that. But with that said, after glancing over some of the figures below, I had no idea how badly skewed BG’s series history against MAC opponents has turned in recent years. There’s no doubt the last five years or so have been very difficult years for us, but some of these streaks are just alarming. In fairness, if you stretch some of the streaks beyond the last few years for some teams, there is less of a discrepancy. Nonetheless, if the last few years haven’t been painful enough, take a look at some of these dubious trends:
BG vs…..
Kent State: Lost 16 of last 20, including last 6 at home.
Western Michigan: Lost 8 in a row, including last 4 at home.
Ball State: Lost 15 of last 21.
Toledo: Lost 10 of last 14.
Akron: Lost 5 in a row, including last 3 at home.
Ohio: Lost 4 in a row, 5 of last 6.
Miami: Lost 5 of last 6.
Buffalo: Lost 4 of last 6.
Northern Illinois: Lost 3 in a row, 4 of last 7.
Central Michigan: Lost 2 of last 3, 5 of last 9
Eastern Michigan: Lost last meeting at home.
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:19 am
by Red Wing Fan
As if I wasn't depressed enough over this season!!!!! I didn't realize it was THAT BAD. No wonder I gave mt tickets away to avoid seeing the game. ( At least I put a couple of bodies there - I could have just left my seats empty). I have to admit - it took me a while to find someone to take them - and I have deluxe chair seats right behind the team. How sad is that!!!!!
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:34 am
by JoeFalcon
The topper was Jim Christain saying how we're so "well coached."
Coaches say that when other coaches are in trouble because they want them to stay around so they can keep beating them.
I have no doubt DD is putting in a yeoman effort, but it simply isn't translating to games.
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:45 am
by FalconFanatic
there's always next year
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:49 am
by Flipper
and the year after...unless the Girl Scouts get nukes. We can all kiss our asses goodbye if that happens.
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:13 pm
by Falconfreak90
And I believe we are now 7-26 in our last 33 MAC contests. 5-13 last year, 2-13 so far this year. Unacceptable. 7-26????

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:04 pm
by Red Wing Fan
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:56 pm
by cowboyjoe
...and Dakich wins wherever he goes..any takers on that bet?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:28 am
by orangeandbrown
No, sir. With a fresh start, he will put things together again.
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:45 am
by guest44
I'm not taking that bet. I can't wait to see where he lands and how he does.
Re: An alarming trend for BG vs. MAC opponents
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:01 am
by BleedOrange
BGSU33 wrote:Yes, this is a glass half-empty post and I am well aware of that. But with that said, after glancing over some of the figures below, I had no idea how badly skewed BG’s series history against MAC opponents has turned in recent years. There’s no doubt the last five years or so have been very difficult years for us, but some of these streaks are just alarming. In fairness, if you stretch some of the streaks beyond the last few years for some teams, there is less of a discrepancy. Nonetheless, if the last few years haven’t been painful enough, take a look at some of these dubious trends:
BG vs…..
Kent State: Lost 16 of last 20, including last 6 at home.
Western Michigan: Lost 8 in a row, including last 4 at home.
Ball State: Lost 15 of last 21.
Toledo: Lost 10 of last 14.
Akron: Lost 5 in a row, including last 3 at home.
Ohio: Lost 4 in a row, 5 of last 6.
Miami: Lost 5 of last 6.
Buffalo: Lost 4 of last 6.
Northern Illinois: Lost 3 in a row, 4 of last 7.
Central Michigan: Lost 2 of last 3, 5 of last 9
Eastern Michigan: Lost last meeting at home.
33, I have no idea what you think you're analyzing here. When you have losing seasons, you have losing records against your opponents during those seasons. These two unavoidably go hand in hand. The alarming trend is the
losing seasons. What you're doing is saying "Gah! Look, and we actually have losing records against the teams we played during those losing seasons." As if there is some additional meaning to be derived beyond that from the overall record. Silly.
Also, pointing out that we've lost 16 of the last 20 to Kent says, um,
nothing. EVERYBODY in the damned conference can say about the same thing.
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:22 pm
by bobio
I think it is clear. Yearly, we have a losing record. However, we load up on a cupcake nonconference schedule and the season results never look that bad. When you look at the games that count, it's another story. We haven't been able to compete in conference for quite some time. The numbers merely highlight the futility.
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:04 pm
by Flipper
I think the team that won 18 a few years ago was decent...they weren't a serious threat to win the MAC, but they had the talent to win against just about anybody in the league if things went perfectly.
We haven't been a legit threat to win since Keith left. That's a long time to spend rebuilding. I think the fact that we haven't been to the NCAA's since 1968 helps Dan more than the OOC schedule. People look at the careers of Weinert and Larranaga here and see that they didn't make it either...so it makes it easier to excuse Dan for not making it.
Personally, I haven't EXPECTED this team to make the NCAA's since 82/83.
I hoped they would a time or two...but I've been conditioned to assume they won't. I'm sure I'm not unique in that respect.
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:08 pm
by Jacobs4Heisman
I expected us to get in Keith's Senior year. I wasn't nearly as cynical then as I am now.
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:33 am
by ZiggyZoomba
Flipper wrote:
I hoped they would a time or two...but I've been conditioned to assume they won't. I'm sure I'm not unique in that respect.
You're unique in a lot of respects, but that is not one of them!