Bowling Green vs Ohio

[bgsufalcon24]

It seems that we have a lot of people discussing how we can beat Ohio University, but nobody is really putting themselves out there saying we can win. It seems that most people here fall into one of two categories. One, those who think we're gonna get killed but won't speak up for fear of getting lambasted for being negative/redundant. Or two, people who we'll win but won't say so for fear of getting laughed at. I'm sick of all the wishy-washyness going on. So here's an anonymous poll, either you think we're gonna win, or we're gonna lose, make your choice.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

I think we're going to lose, and probably by double-digits, but I'm not relishing it like you seem to be. I certainly won't be around after the game saying "I told you we'd get killed!"

I doubt you actually are looking forward to the defeat, but that's what you're projecting.

[bgsufalcon24]

I think we're going to lose, and probably by double-digits, but I'm not relishing it like you seem to be. I certainly won't be around after the game saying "I told you we'd get killed!"

I doubt you actually are looking forward to the defeat, but that's what you're projecting.

I doubt I'll be on here saying "I told you so" to everybody if we lose big, that's not what I'm after. Although it might be if I get any more "we can't lose to Temple" crap from anybody. That's been going on for almost 5 months now and its getting really old. What I'm after is this. If I'm getting so much opposition for what should be considered a fairly standard opinion (we're gonna lose badly), is it because people actually think we're gonna win, or is it because people just like giving me s**t.

[hammb]

I think we're going to lose. I think we're going to lose by 20. I honestly don't know if we'll be competing in this game by halftime.


I have chosen not to talk about it, because for the first time all season I saw us put together a complete game on Sunday. We played well, and got a win. It was a well played basketball game all around, and we won against a pretty good (albeit not great) team. It put me in a good mood about Falcon basketball pretty much for the first time all year.

I fully believe we're going to get absolutely destroyed against OU, but I'm choosing to not even think about it as I sit back and enjoy the one highlight on this dismal season.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

I think we're going to lose, and probably by double-digits, but I'm not relishing it like you seem to be. I certainly won't be around after the game saying "I told you we'd get killed!"

I doubt you actually are looking forward to the defeat, but that's what you're projecting.

I doubt I'll be on here saying "I told you so" to everybody if we lose big, that's not what I'm after. Although it might be if I get any more "we can't lose to Temple" crap from anybody. That's been going on for almost 5 months now and its getting really old. What I'm after is this. If I'm getting so much opposition for what should be considered a fairly standard opinion (we're gonna lose badly), is it because people actually think we're gonna win, or is it because people just like giving me s**t.

Personally, I just like giving you s**t

In any event, I just thought you'd like to how you sound to everybody. If that's what you're going for, more power to ya. If not, you might want to tone it down a bit.

[Peregrinner]

I doubt I'll be on here saying "I told you so" to everybody if we lose big, that's not what I'm after. Although it might be if I get any more "we can't lose to Temple" crap from anybody. That's been going on for almost 5 months now and its getting really old. What I'm after is this. If I'm getting so much opposition for what should be considered a fairly standard opinion (we're gonna lose badly), is it because people actually think we're gonna win, or is it because people just like giving me s**t.

I think it's less that people want to give you crap about it and more that you seem to project a sort of excitement about it when you predict that the men's team will lose.

It doesn't come across as "I think we'll probably lose this one, and here's why:" It comes across as "We don't have a chance and we're going to lose by 30 because we suck, and good riddance."

It gets old as quickly as people who started dozens of both "FIRE BRANDON" and "FIRE POOCH" threads over and over again.

[JWEIII]

I think we're going to lose. I think we're going to lose by 20. I honestly don't know if we'll be competing in this game by halftime.


I have chosen not to talk about it, because for the first time all season I saw us put together a complete game on Sunday. We played well, and got a win. It was a well played basketball game all around, and we won against a pretty good (albeit not great) team. It put me in a good mood about Falcon basketball pretty much for the first time all year.

I fully believe we're going to get absolutely destroyed against OU, but I'm choosing to not even think about it as I sit back and enjoy the one highlight on this dismal season.

Wow. Amen.

[Falconboy]

I also think we'll lose big, but the again why would that be a surprise to anyone.

[bgsufalcon24]

I doubt I'll be on here saying "I told you so" to everybody if we lose big, that's not what I'm after. Although it might be if I get any more "we can't lose to Temple" crap from anybody. That's been going on for almost 5 months now and its getting really old. What I'm after is this. If I'm getting so much opposition for what should be considered a fairly standard opinion (we're gonna lose badly), is it because people actually think we're gonna win, or is it because people just like giving me s**t.

I think it's less that people want to give you crap about it and more that you seem to project a sort of excitement about it when you predict that the men's team will lose.

It doesn't come across as "I think we'll probably lose this one, and here's why:" It comes across as "We don't have a chance and we're going to lose by 30 because we suck, and good riddance."

It gets old as quickly as people who started dozens of both "FIRE BRANDON" and "FIRE POOCH" threads over and over again.

To be quite frank, I think we're past the point where we have to explain why we will lose a game. But since you brought it up, here's the case for why OU will defeat BG.

1.We have a lack of talent compared to other MAC teams (the most obvious reason) Beyond Hamblet, Samarco, Miller, and Marshall, who do we have that would be any good on Akron, Kent, or Toledo? OU definently has more talent than us.

2.Any depth that we do have despite our lack of overall talent is virtually wasted by Dakich through his weird substitution patterns. Our players go from 30 minutes one game to 5 the next. How are we supposed to get any kind of player development or player confidence with that going on? We don't even know who Dakich is going to play in this game, which will add to the bench players anxiety.

3.Our offensive system stinks. We don't score a lot of points inside, where Marshall is our only option. We stand around and pass the ball around the perimeter each game like its all we know how to do. Then we jack up s**t with about 5 left on the shot clock. I recognize the play quite readily because the Cleveland Cavaliers also do it on a regular basis. And it makes for boring, uninspiring basketball.

4.We invent new ways to lose games (ie: at Buffalo) Although that probably wasn't our fault entirely, how terrible was that?

And in this specific case, OU owns our ass. They've won 4 straight and beat us by 15+ both times this season, including a 20+ point drubbing inside AA a few weeks ago.

That's why I would say that OU will win the game.

By contrast, here is the other side, why BG might have a chance to pull the upset

1.OU is inconsistent from one game to another. If they are off, they are beatable, even by the #12 seed in the conference. They might also be overconfident heading in because of their recent success vs BG

2.They don't have great team chemistry, and seem to have lulls in games where nothing is clicking. Teams can often get runs in on Ohio before they know what hit them.

3.The recent play of Ryne Hamblet. If he plays well, shoots well and distributes the ball to BGs playmakers Samarco and Miller, OUs defense might be hard-pressed to stop the attack, assuming that BG doesn't turn the ball over 15+ times because the Falcons are turnover prone.

That's the case for BG winning. IMO, it boils down to us being able to catch them on an off day. And I don't like those chances very much.

[falconfan1999]

I think we can win!!! If we play some solid TEAM defense, we have a chance. When Ohio U. has to go to it's bench they are in trouble (Anybody see their braket buster game?) Spread the ball on offense, make them work and good things can happen. If Otis Polk can disrupt their inside game, like he did against Miami, Ryne Hamblet can keep up his play, combine with Martin Samarco's shooting, I like our chances. I just wish we'd have Erik Marshall for this one....

[bgsufalcon24]

I think we can win!!! If we play some solid TEAM defense, we have a chance. When Ohio U. has to go to it's bench they are in trouble (Anybody see their braket buster game?) Spread the ball on offense, make them work and good things can happen. If Otis Polk can disrupt their inside game, like he did against Miami, Ryne Hamblet can keep up his play, combine with Martin Samarco's shooting, I like our chances. I just wish we'd have Erik Marshall for this one....

True that. I'd like our chances a lot more if we had Marshall in there. He's our best interior player. Without him, we're probably gonna have to shoot the lights out or hold Ohio to an obscenely bad shooting percentage to win.

[h2oville rocket]

3.The recent play of Ryne Hamblet. If he plays well, shoots well and distributes the ball to BGs playmakers Samarco and Hamblet

I project that Hamblet will have a great deal of success distributing the ball to that Hamblet guy. Not sure about Samarco but I'll bet that Hamblet the point guard will assure that Hamblet the playmaker gets lots of touches.

[bgsufalcon24]

3.The recent play of Ryne Hamblet. If he plays well, shoots well and distributes the ball to BGs playmakers Samarco and Hamblet

I project that Hamblet will have a great deal of success distributing the ball to that Hamblet guy. Not sure about Samarco but I'll bet that Hamblet the point guard will assure that Hamblet the playmaker gets lots of touches.

It's not impossible to distribute the ball to one's self. According to Charles Barkley, Lebron James does it every game.

[cowboyjoe]

Do we have a shot against OU? We have a shot to beat any team that loses by 31 (79-48) to Akron, by 12 (69-57) to Ball State which has an RPI of 261, and by 19 (84-65) to Buffalo which has RPI of 231.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

Yep -- OU's been criminally inconsistent. We play well, they play poorly, we have a good shot. I give us about 1 in 5 to win.