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point guard
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:10 pm
by kollege stewdent
I will put this out to all the “coaches” out there.
What is your definition of a legitimate or true point guard?
What should a point legitimate or true point guard do?
Are we looking for a player with athletic ability (which is an over used term IMO), one with basketball skills and/or an intelligent?
Define:
By the way I think we also need a “legitimate or true” center. Another issue…another day.
Here are some from different sources:
• Usually a team's primary ballhandler and the player who sets up the team's offense.
www.wnba.com/about_us/glossary.html
• An offensive position played by a guard who usually brings the ball up the court and initiates the offense.
www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml
• Usually a team's floor leader, who initiates the offense and controls the tempo of the game.
http://www.basketball-plays-and-tips.co ... ssary.html
• Point guard is one of the standard positions in a regulation basketball game. The point guard is normally the smallest player on the team and has perhaps the most specialized role of any position. Essentially, the point guard is expected to run the team's offense, by controlling the ball and making sure that it gets to the right players at the right time. After an opponent scores, it is typically the point guard who brings the ball down court to begin an offensive play. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_guard
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:19 pm
by ZiggyZoomba
Just off the top of my head, I think "Floor Leader" is the most important trait. Next up would be high assist:turnover ratio. Scoring is secondary. A true point guard is an extension of the coach on the floor... WITH the full confidence of the coaching staff behind him.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:20 pm
by Jacobs4Heisman
Athletic enough to defend good MAC guards (read: lateral quickness).
good A/TO ratio.
Ability to create off the dribble for either himself, or to kick to shooters.
Good Leadership qualities on and off the court.
Ability to hit the open three and mid-range jumper.
Hell, I'd be happy with 3 out of 5, but the first two are musts.
edit: In a perfect world, we'll be reading an article like this about the men's team in a few years.
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... 6/-1/RSS03
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:25 pm
by hammb
Like the others said floor leader with good A:T/O ratio is the most important thing. I think the attribute to look for in order to ensure a a good A:T/O ratio is court vision. We must find somebody who can see the creases and see where his teammates are and how to get them the ball.
The ability to break down your defender off the dribble is also pretty darn important to get into the lane and then find the open teammates.
If they can score as well it's a bonus.
I'd like them to be able to defend opposing points as well, but could live with lax defense if they can play the position offensively.
In short, you know what I think is the perfect PG? Brandon Pardon.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:42 pm
by Globetrotter
2 things make a good PG, and they were both mentioned.
Lateral Quickness and Court Vision.
You must be able to defend and have to be defended. You also must be able to know where your teammates are going, not neccesarily where they are.
Everything else is a sidebar to these two things. Anthony Stacy may have been the second best point guard at BG in my time there and he did not even play the position. He controlled the entire game because of those two aspects, he was not a great dribbler but he had great lateral quickness in comparison to the people he was playing and you could run an offense through him because of his court vision.
Assist to turnover ratio can be skewed if you are not playing with quality players. Assists rely on someone to finish. I may be horrible but if I am playing with MJ my assist numbers will probably be pretty high. Now if it was Darius Miles those numbers would be much lower. Statistics can lie.
Now the question was really what is the definition of a point guard. That is something different. I would define a point guard as the primary ball handler who instigates the offense.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:56 pm
by frdmgir7
Hammb,
My husband says the same thing about Pardon. I was so excited to see what he looks like when Coach said he was at the game on Sunday. All I got was a picture since his wife went into labor!
It sure would be nice to score a kid with similarities to Pardon. If we get a point, maybe Anderson can once again be the House that Roars. Our luck, it will be the year we leave BG since I am done with grad school in May! Hmmm...money or Falcon Basketball? Let's not talk about which one my husband would pick! haha

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:13 pm
by Dayons_Den
I think Clinton Venable was the best PG I've seen in the burnt orange and seal brown since I began watching BG hoops in 1985. Pardon is a close second. Funny, both transferred in to the program.
Re: point guard
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:17 pm
by Schadenfreude
kollege stewdent wrote:By the way I think we also need a “legitimate or true” center. Another issue…another day.
I'm only a casual basketball fan, but I can't help thinking that Harold Anderson probably said the same thing many seasons.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:00 pm
by kollege stewdent
Does anyone know Brandon? If so maybe a call or an e-mail would be in order. I know he has been to some practices and some games to see the team. It would be interesting to hear who he thinks, if anyone, that is, could be or could possibly become will be a "true" point guard.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:25 pm
by BGSU33
Here's my vote, a guard that could score and dish!
Antonio Daniels: Played four seasons at Bowling Green ... as a senior was named the Mid-American Player of the Year and a John Wooden All-American Team finalist ... during the 1996-97 season appeared in 32 games, averaging 24.0 points (5th in the nation) and 6.8 assists (10th in the nation) in 36.2 minutes per contest ... shot .547 from the field and .777 from the line ... hit 45-of-104 (.433) three-pointers ... named the MAC Offensive Player of the Week four times ... scored 30 or more six times ... in his final game had a career-high 38 points, 8 assists and 6 steals as the Falcons fell to West Virginia in the First Round of the NIT ... named an honorable mention All-American by AP ... in his college career appeared in a total of 111 games, averaging 16.1 points, 5.2 assists and 2.9 rebounds while shooting .515 from the field ... connected on a total of 82-of-196 (.418) three-pointers ... finished 2nd on Bowling Green's all-time list in both scoring, with 1,789 points, and assists, with 573 ... earned 107 starts ... named to the All-MAC Second Team as a junior, averaging 16.0 points, 5.9 assists and 1.84 steals in 25 games ... led the MAC in assists ... earned 22 starts in 26 games as a sophomore, averaging 10.3 points and 3.8 assists per game ... named the MAC Freshman of the Year in 1993-94, averaging 12.6 points and 3.9 assists in 28 games.