BG - Miami
BG - Miami
Did everyone give up on the team??? Game is at halftime and no thread.
Sitting in AA awaiting the BG - KSU women's game and listening to the Men's game.
BG trailing at half. BG has missed 9 FTs already in first half.
Why is Erger and Kraus getting more minutes than Scott Thomas???
Why is Sealey sitting on the bench woth not one minute of playing time???
I do not understand Coach Orr sub patterns anymore. We have the talent but at no time should Kraus and Erger be on the floor over Sealey, Thomas. McElroy
Sitting in AA awaiting the BG - KSU women's game and listening to the Men's game.
BG trailing at half. BG has missed 9 FTs already in first half.
Why is Erger and Kraus getting more minutes than Scott Thomas???
Why is Sealey sitting on the bench woth not one minute of playing time???
I do not understand Coach Orr sub patterns anymore. We have the talent but at no time should Kraus and Erger be on the floor over Sealey, Thomas. McElroy
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Re: BG - Miami
I think the 11am start time meant that some people weren't even awake for the start.gmartin wrote:Did everyone give up on the team??? Game is at halftime and no thread.
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Re: BG - Miami
BG trails 70-60 with 7:28 left. Miami's lead has been about 10 all 2nd half, you just don't get the feeling that BG is capable of coming back and winning.
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Re: BG - Miami
Why is Erger and Kraus getting more playing time than Scott Thomas? Thomas had 2 quick fouls in the first half and has been fighting that ever since. Not much Orr can do about that.
As for the free throws, it is uncharacteristic of Calhoun to miss that many free throws. I am not positive as to why Sealey isn't playing but I'm sure it has something to do with Mavunga
As for the free throws, it is uncharacteristic of Calhoun to miss that many free throws. I am not positive as to why Sealey isn't playing but I'm sure it has something to do with Mavunga
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Re: BG - Miami
Another thing, why are we trapping in the backcourt on every defensive possession. Miami is carving us up every single time we do that, they get open 3's or somebody open under the basket.orangeBGbrown wrote:Why is Erger and Kraus getting more playing time than Scott Thomas? Thomas had 2 quick fouls in the first half and has been fighting that ever since. Not much Orr can do about that.
As for the free throws, it is uncharacteristic of Calhoun to miss that many free throws. I am not positive as to why Sealey isn't playing but I'm sure it has something to do with Mavunga
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Re: BG - Miami
76-67 Miami with 2:47 left. Playing hard but it's just not going to be enough.
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Re: BG - Miami
Typing with one hand so forgive my grammar.
This team is encouraging because they are playing badly but in each game and i think that what ails us is correctable.
Some thoughts
1. I don't get the rotations at all. Sealey had a breakout game last week and was invisible today. He is clearly providing more then Erger at this point. Dabney is actually playing pretty well despite low expectations. He comes in and gets 3 quik pts and a rebound never to be seen again til very late. Black didnt play. I can only assume its illness or smething in pratice but we could have used blacks size today.
2. We are not aggressive rebounding. Thats an easy fix because we start 3 pretty big guys who can rebound, they jut are not getting in position to do so. All 3 are agressive on D
3. Shooters kill us. It was Williams today but was Freeman last week. We need to do better at this it should be the focus of the defense.
4. Our offense is awful. I have no idea what theyare even trying to do. If you watch the other team you see guys coming off picks in position to make plays. We come off picks nowhere nere a psition to make a play
5 As a bulls fan it was interesting to hear dickey simpkins calling the game
6 they just seem like they already reached there goal and cant wait to get the year over
So our top 3 players are Calhoun, Thomas and Craw in that order.
Craw has obvious height limitations but will graduate an all-mac player.
Calhoun has improved so much with shot selection this year. He is going to be all-mac for certain if he just gets a bit more agressive on the boards. I love that he is shooting threes because he an hit it and it expands the floor for him to tke the guy who is guarding him off th dribble. almost everytime tht guy wont be as athletic.
Thomas can do everything and is incredibly smart or seams that way but will never be a star
1 craw
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3 thomas
4 calhoun
5
Going into next year we will have multiple options at both opn positions. The only q is who plays where? With these 3 definitely starting at sg we could use a bigger defensive guard who can spot up. This could be anyone of kraus/brown/henderson/clarke--> i am more curios about who backs up pg. I do not think kraus or brown should see many minutes there. my guess is clarke
at c we have a similar situation with oglesby/black and mccelroy. none is a complete player. with calhoun nd craw We could use a guy who can run the floor and finish but also is bigg enough to make up for our lack of another pst presence. I think thsts black on paper but he has dissapered
This team is encouraging because they are playing badly but in each game and i think that what ails us is correctable.
Some thoughts
1. I don't get the rotations at all. Sealey had a breakout game last week and was invisible today. He is clearly providing more then Erger at this point. Dabney is actually playing pretty well despite low expectations. He comes in and gets 3 quik pts and a rebound never to be seen again til very late. Black didnt play. I can only assume its illness or smething in pratice but we could have used blacks size today.
2. We are not aggressive rebounding. Thats an easy fix because we start 3 pretty big guys who can rebound, they jut are not getting in position to do so. All 3 are agressive on D
3. Shooters kill us. It was Williams today but was Freeman last week. We need to do better at this it should be the focus of the defense.
4. Our offense is awful. I have no idea what theyare even trying to do. If you watch the other team you see guys coming off picks in position to make plays. We come off picks nowhere nere a psition to make a play
5 As a bulls fan it was interesting to hear dickey simpkins calling the game
6 they just seem like they already reached there goal and cant wait to get the year over
So our top 3 players are Calhoun, Thomas and Craw in that order.
Craw has obvious height limitations but will graduate an all-mac player.
Calhoun has improved so much with shot selection this year. He is going to be all-mac for certain if he just gets a bit more agressive on the boards. I love that he is shooting threes because he an hit it and it expands the floor for him to tke the guy who is guarding him off th dribble. almost everytime tht guy wont be as athletic.
Thomas can do everything and is incredibly smart or seams that way but will never be a star
1 craw
2
3 thomas
4 calhoun
5
Going into next year we will have multiple options at both opn positions. The only q is who plays where? With these 3 definitely starting at sg we could use a bigger defensive guard who can spot up. This could be anyone of kraus/brown/henderson/clarke--> i am more curios about who backs up pg. I do not think kraus or brown should see many minutes there. my guess is clarke
at c we have a similar situation with oglesby/black and mccelroy. none is a complete player. with calhoun nd craw We could use a guy who can run the floor and finish but also is bigg enough to make up for our lack of another pst presence. I think thsts black on paper but he has dissapered
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Re: BG - Miami
Did anybody get the impression that this was the first basketball game that other announcer even watched? My mother knows more basketball than that guy.
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Re: BG - Miami
I like Dee Brown...makes his free throws and hits the little 17 foot jumper about 9 out of 10 times. Very excited to see how Clarke is next year though I think JCraw will pretty much take over starting pg
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Brown easily played his best game of the year on both sides of the floor vs. Miami. He is an effective scorer and good spot-up shooter, but usually struggles to get open because of his obvious lack of quickness. He's perfect for the inside-out system, but not if Calhoun never kicks it out...
Globe, I'm gonna argue your assessment of our 3 best players. I go Thomas, Crawford, Calhoun in that order with a bigger gap between 2 and 3 than you might expect. I'm basing these ranks on the "Steve Nash for MVP" theory: Look at how the team plays when they're NOT in the game.
Calhoun scores a lot of points in a stagnant offense, but still takes A LOT of bad shots, does NOT pass out of the post even though that's what the offense is primarily designed for him to do, and is INCREDIBLY inconsistent on the glass. Too many times I've seen him stand idly by waiting for a rebound to fall to him while an opposing player goes right by him untouched for an easy offensive board.
Calhoun has all the ability to be VERY good, but we need a more consistent effort from him, like the kind we get out of Thomas and Crawford every night, if we're going to be a good basketball team going forward.
Globe, I'm gonna argue your assessment of our 3 best players. I go Thomas, Crawford, Calhoun in that order with a bigger gap between 2 and 3 than you might expect. I'm basing these ranks on the "Steve Nash for MVP" theory: Look at how the team plays when they're NOT in the game.
Calhoun scores a lot of points in a stagnant offense, but still takes A LOT of bad shots, does NOT pass out of the post even though that's what the offense is primarily designed for him to do, and is INCREDIBLY inconsistent on the glass. Too many times I've seen him stand idly by waiting for a rebound to fall to him while an opposing player goes right by him untouched for an easy offensive board.
Calhoun has all the ability to be VERY good, but we need a more consistent effort from him, like the kind we get out of Thomas and Crawford every night, if we're going to be a good basketball team going forward.
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Re: BG - Miami
I think you have to put craw overThomas then but i see your point. Especially like your point on the offense. i have been trying to figutr out the goal all year. If the goal is for the bigs to facilitate the offense then its not working.
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We've heard time and time again that this is how Orr envisions his offense, but then I see possession after possession where we don't even look to get our bigs involved. Far too often our offense passes the ball around the perimeter to guys coming off screens over and over again. What really makes me question this is that our guys can't even consistently hit that 17 foot jumper coming off a screen. No clue why we spend so many possessions doing that.Globetrotter wrote:I think you have to put craw overThomas then but i see your point. Especially like your point on the offense. i have been trying to figutr out the goal all year. If the goal is for the bigs to facilitate the offense then its not working.
And yeah Calhoun is a black hole on offense, but I cannot fully fault him for not kicking it out when many times he gets the ball and we clear out to the other side of the court in order to isolate him.
Calhoun can be maddening, but he's the most important player on our team, as far as I can tell. He's the only one that I really see the opposition having to fear. He's the only player that can consistently create his own offense. He's still pretty inconsistent, but he's our best offensive threat. The staff just needs to figure out how to get him to play to his potential on a game to game basis. I've definitely seen the rebounding and defensive inconsistency as much or more than the offensive inconsistency. Sometimes he goes up and attacks the rebounding, and I've seen some very good defensive possessions from him as well...unfortunately he doesn't give that effort for every minute he's on the court.
I hope he continues to improve because he's by far the most talented player on our team.

