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Recruiting before 4-17

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:58 pm
by Globetrotter
Second period starts 4-17

Who we have reportedly offered
1) 5-8/5-11 Guard Austin Malone Mitchell (also Wisconsin Mil and San Francisco)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYD30hiqN4Y
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball ... ell-106194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzvRAPgNqZI
Shades of Crawford, better size.

2) 6-3 Guard Joe Retic (holds offers from UIC, BGSU, IUPUI, Chicago St., & Washington State)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BmZmwVH1nA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzf1wD2fgnI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxPqBObWbGc
Big PG with 3 years remaining and from a winning program.

3) 6-7 Forward Cullen Russo (offers from Miami, Drake, St Bonns, BGSU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I12qyfkK18I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neykw7-1hCs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWNgRKrStew
You can't watch this video and not love him. Not sure why he hasn't accepted Miami yet. Might be waiting for Minnie.

4) 6-8 Forward Mark Williams (Offers from Dayton, George Mason, Indiana, NIU, Robert Morris, South Florida, UCF)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo1K8JTx ... r_embedded
Not sure why he wouldn't go to Indiana.

Re: REcruiting before 4-17

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:38 pm
by Rollo83
Why in the world would anyone come to BG now and play for Orr next year? Unless, its your only option...

Re: REcruiting before 4-17

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:57 pm
by BleedOrange
Rollo83 wrote:Why in the world would anyone come to BG now and play for Orr next year? Unless, its your only option...
Meh, a year under Orr is better than a year spent smashing rocks. Louis Orr may be a lame duck coach, but he's no Joseph Stalin.

Maybe a kid sees an opportunity for immediate playing time, likes the university, has friends/relatives here, is optimistic about our 2013-14 team, really likes our current players, or simply just isn't that worried about the probable coaching change. Who knows?

Also, we may be safety schools for these kids. "If I don't get the offer I really want, at least Bowling Green will be sitting there with an opening."

Re: REcruiting before 4-17

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:36 pm
by BGWriter
Rollo83 wrote:Why in the world would anyone come to BG now and play for Orr next year? Unless, its your only option...
I would hope these kids are choosing a school more than a coach when they select where they're going to go to college. Coaches can always come and go, even at places that seem to be very stable.

Re: REcruiting before 4-17

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:26 pm
by Globetrotter
BGWriter wrote:
Rollo83 wrote:Why in the world would anyone come to BG now and play for Orr next year? Unless, its your only option...
I would hope these kids are choosing a school more than a coach when they select where they're going to go to college. Coaches can always come and go, even at places that seem to be very stable.
This doesn't happen anywhere in Division 1 Football or Basketball. Everyone picks it based on the coach. Why would you go somewhere that you didn't know who was coaching and just give up your career to a coach you know nothing about.

Also if we are basing it on Academics or location we are in trouble.

Re: REcruiting before 4-17

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:30 pm
by transfer2BGSU
Globetrotter wrote:
Also if we are basing it on Academics or location we are in trouble.
Aren't you an alum?

Re: REcruiting before 4-17

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:46 pm
by Globetrotter
transfer2BGSU wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:
Also if we are basing it on Academics or location we are in trouble.
Aren't you an alum?
Yep. I wasn't a D1 athlete with a ton of choices. I had a fun time and was able to have some cool experiences and meet cool people. BG isn't thought of as a good school by young people today. It's a fall back plan.

Re: REcruiting before 4-17

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:14 am
by gspointer
Globetrotter wrote:
transfer2BGSU wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:
Also if we are basing it on Academics or location we are in trouble.
Aren't you an alum?
Yep. I wasn't a D1 athlete with a ton of choices. I had a fun time and was able to have some cool experiences and meet cool people. BG isn't thought of as a good school by young people today. It's a fall back plan.


Not sure what school you went to but I am in the education field and the business and education departments are thought of as top notch. Probably others as well that I am less familiar with. I have not had any go there as fall backs. Did someone let Schleprock out of the house?

Re: REcruiting before 4-17

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:09 am
by MarkL
I studied computer science. Program is pretty highly regarded. Education is top ten nationwide. Business gets loads of undergrad accolades and the MBA program is highly regarded. Psychology is highly regarded, especially the masters program. Sports Management, a very attractive program for athletes, is among the top in the country. Doesn't sound like much of a fallback plan to me ...

Re: REcruiting before 4-17

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:46 am
by hammb
MarkL wrote:I studied computer science. Program is pretty highly regarded. Education is top ten nationwide. Business gets loads of undergrad accolades and the MBA program is highly regarded. Psychology is highly regarded, especially the masters program. Sports Management, a very attractive program for athletes, is among the top in the country. Doesn't sound like much of a fallback plan to me ...
I majored in CS as well, and the program is pretty good. I don't know what the rankings or whatever say, but I know that I've been fast tracked on a couple job prospects in the past when they saw my degree. CS from BG has definitely given me preference in the interview process over other degrees.

Re: REcruiting before 4-17

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:48 am
by BleedOrange
I don't see any reason to significantly differentiate among BG, Kent, OU, Toledo, Akron, etc.

Re: REcruiting before 4-17

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:55 am
by hammb
BleedOrange wrote:I don't see any reason to significantly differentiate among BG, Kent, OU, Toledo, Akron, etc.
Me neither.

And maybe things have changed but at the time I was choosing schools OSU did not offer CS (neither did UT). The similar program at OSU was Computer Information Systems and it was not as highly regarded as the CS program at BG was.

Although looking back I kinda do wish I had gone the Computer Engineering program at UT...I think that could have opened some more doors, but oh well. In the end, I think I got a pretty damn good education, and I'm not convinced that there was a greatly better option in Ohio.

Re: REcruiting before 4-17

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:57 am
by Globetrotter
BleedOrange wrote:I don't see any reason to significantly differentiate among BG, Kent, OU, Toledo, Akron, etc.
OU is way better. The other ones are from larger cities that tend to be more attractive. Toledo for one is tied into the Hospital.

BG is a fine school. But the best and brightest are not picking BG. They go to Miami, Cincinnati, OU, OSU, Dayton or out of state.

I am not trying to nock down anyone's degrees. Where you get your degree really doesn't matter after your first job. My degree is from BG. What I am telling you is that BG's academics and location don't help in recruiting. It's the reason that you need a top coach.

Re: REcruiting before 4-17

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:58 am
by Globetrotter
hammb wrote:
BleedOrange wrote:I don't see any reason to significantly differentiate among BG, Kent, OU, Toledo, Akron, etc.
Me neither.

And maybe things have changed but at the time I was choosing schools OSU did not offer CS (neither did UT). The similar program at OSU was Computer Information Systems and it was not as highly regarded as the CS program at BG was.

Although looking back I kinda do wish I had gone the Computer Engineering program at UT...I think that could have opened some more doors, but oh well. In the end, I think I got a pretty damn good education, and I'm not convinced that there was a greatly better option in Ohio.
OSU has
CSE
CIS
One in Business and one Health Care and now one in communications.

I don't know enought about the CS program at BG to say which of those it's most comprable to.

Re: REcruiting before 4-17

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:01 am
by MarkL
I seem to remember a certain record setting receiver a few years ago citing BG's sport management program as one of the reasons he came here. Many athletes are interested in that program. I'd call that academic program a good one in terms of recruiting ...