BG vs NIU

[gmartin]

Another piss poor performance so far.

Down by 17 with 9:00 to go. Pathetic.

[gmartin]

Went over 8 minutes without a single point. Went through 2 media time outs and not 1 single point.

[gmartin]

Going to get drilled Tuesday at Toledo. Looking at 1-4 start.

[BGSU33]

Offense, offense, offense....it's just as important as defense. We're getting another lesson on it now.

[BGSU33]

Going to get drilled Tuesday at Toledo. Looking at 1-4 start.

We're looking essentially like the exact same team as we were last year. Lost a few guys, added a few new guys, but it's the same old results. Another basement finish in the MAC yet again.

[BGSU33]

Went over 8 minutes without a single point. Went through 2 media time outs and not 1 single point.

And yet Huger will somehow find a way to comment about our lack of defense. We also need guys who can shoot and score, which are not one in the same in basketball.

[gmartin]

Lose 69-52

4 of our starters combine for a total of 16 pts. 16 pts out of 4 starters!!!

Less than 38% shooting. Under 50% from the line. 22 Turnovers. Piss Poor Effort

[Class of 61]

Forgot game WAS on ESPN3 after looking earlier. Down by 2 when I turned it on, now down 17-19 or so. NO SHOOTERS or BALLHANDLERS?

Horrible ! Play your freshmen!

[gmartin]

Caldwell and Frye played terrible too

[FalconTurf]

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Offense, offense, offense....it's just as important as defense. We're getting another lesson on it now.

Need to continue recruiting. He went with three 3-point shooters on the floor at once and couldn't get anything started. The right mix hasn't been found and simply may not be on campus yet. Tough to believe but it's rather obvious.

[guest44]

If Northern Illinois had played well, that could have been a 35 point win. BG sucked in every way. Meanwhile, the officiating was laughably awful. The review of a meaningless 10 second call was something so ridiculous, I've never ever seen before. Gonna be a long long year.

[BGSU33]

Went over 8 minutes without a single point. Went through 2 media time outs and not 1 single point.

And yet Huger will somehow find a way to comment about our lack of defense. We also need guys who can shoot and score, which are not one in the same in basketball.

And BINGO!!! He didn't let me down:

“It’s not selfish in a disrespectful way — it’s more selfish in that [players say] ‘I want to score’ more than ‘I want to play defense,’ ” Huger explained. “We have to get selfish on the defensive end and want to play defense....“We’re worried about offense, offense, offense and it should be defense, defense, defense,” Huger said. “If we don’t change our mind-set and understand how important defense is …”

I'm dumbfounded how he continues to ignore what we're all seeing from the offensive side of the ball as well. Our problems are not solely defensive related game after game after game. SMH

[guest44]

I'm dumbfounded by our half court offense and totally confused by the rotations. Such a lack of attention to detail in substitutions. Ali scored on back to back possesions early in the game when offense struggling. He comes out next whistle. Similar in that regard to Orr.

[hammb]

Went over 8 minutes without a single point. Went through 2 media time outs and not 1 single point.

And yet Huger will somehow find a way to comment about our lack of defense. We also need guys who can shoot and score, which are not one in the same in basketball.

And BINGO!!! He didn't let me down:

“It’s not selfish in a disrespectful way — it’s more selfish in that [players say] ‘I want to score’ more than ‘I want to play defense,’ ” Huger explained. “We have to get selfish on the defensive end and want to play defense....“We’re worried about offense, offense, offense and it should be defense, defense, defense,” Huger said. “If we don’t change our mind-set and understand how important defense is …”

I'm dumbfounded how he continues to ignore what we're all seeing from the offensive side of the ball as well. Our problems are not solely defensive related game after game after game. SMH

Yeah, I'm a bit perplexed by those sorts of comments after that game as well. We were not good on defense. But our defense was merely bad, while our offense was a complete and total embarrassment. We had a few short spurts of quality offense, but on the whole, it was just abysmal.

And, of course, I took a bunch of friends as we used the game to kick off a diaper party yesterday. I think it's safe to say that none of the 7 guys that came with us have any interest in going back to another BG game. The "entertainment value" was solely laughing at how pathetically awful both teams looked; and like in years past, that gets old after awhile. Then we get to the bar and see NC & FSU playing (I know, we'll never be in their stratosphere), and it just looks like a completely different sport.

Watching with guys who don't normally watch BG hoops really brings the perspective, not that it was anything I didn't already know watching games this year, but seeing such awful efforts in back to back games was really disgusting. One of my buddies correctly pointed out, what's the point of running the pick and roll on every possession if your PG isn't good enough to score OR hit the roller with a pass. I think Ali hit like 2 of those passes off P'n'R all game long.

Lillard? I don't care WHAT he did for us last year. The way he is playing you can not have him on the court for major minutes. He has no business starting and should be playing 1 minute for every 2.5 that Frye plays, at this point. He isn't scoring and he's stupid with the basketball...a turnover machine. Last year he would get to the basket and finish. This year he looks half afraid to drive, and when he gets inside he's more likely to make a stupid pass to the opposition than he is to actually finish something off.

Wiggins really struggled yesterday against their big, but he's played well most of the year, so I'll give him a bit of a pass.

I have no idea what Caldwell did to get in the doghouse, he barely played yesterday and certainly didn't do anything so egregious to go from playing 15+ minutes for the past 8 games, then under 5 yesterday? He was over 20 minutes in half of those 8 games. In that span Caldwell scored 62 points (nearly 8 ppg) on only 42 shots. And put up 13 assists to only 6 turnovers... And then Malik comes in? I have no problems with Malik, but he hasn't played all year and there's probably a reason for that. Barring undisclosed injury/illness/infraction there is ZERO justifiable explanation for how little Caldwell played yesterday.

Frye looked like the only competent scorer on our team yesterday. He needs to be starting at SG. He's better than Lillard in every single facet of offensive basketball. I don't think Lillard is such a defensive stalwart to let him keep handing the ball over to the opposition night in/night out.

Denny...what the f**k, Denny...When the curtain closes on his career we're going to see a player that we can say without a doubt played his best basketball as a sophomore. Denny could be Exhibit A to show how much better of a coach Jans was than Huger, if things continue along this path. Last year we didn't start playing well down the stretch until Denny's minutes waned. This year he's back to playing more than any other player and is just not good enough to lean on that heavily. His shooting gets worse every year. He plays competent defense and rebounds well for his size, but if he's going to continue to be our leading scorer we're totally screwed. He's ridiculously inefficient, averaging an abysmal 1.13 points per shot taken. The only players on the team who are less efficient in putting the ball through the basket are Worrell & Ali, and they both play roles where scoring is absolutely not what we're asking of them. On the plus side it was hilarious to see an 80% free throw shooter completely airball the front end of a 1 & 1....don't see that every day.

What did Turner do? He hurt again? Just upset Huger? When we were winning some (albeit weak competition) in the OOC schedule it was Frye/Caldwell/Turner starting to come off the bench and do some things. He played single digit minutes against BSU & Akron, then hasn't gotten in the game the last 2.

And Matt Fox...sigh Matt Fox. He's literally only good at one single thing on a basketball court and he was 1-7 shooting the 3 yesterday. And while 3 of those were after the game was all but over I think every single one of them was a good open look. The one chance BG had we were back in it, he bricked an open 3 and followed by getting torched by his man to the other end for a layup not only epitomized his limitations on the court, it also destroyed our momentum and kickstarted NIU's rolling.



Yeah...I'm ranting because the product the past 2 games was putrid. As bad as anything Orr or Dakich put on the court. I still like Huger's recruiting, and think he has a chance to turn it around, but he better figure out WTF the team is doing on offense, because I don't care how much defense you preach if you're scoring 50 effing points (and let's be honest, both games were a struggle to get to the 50 barrier, which we likely only accomplished because both games were out of hand and the other team let up) you won't win jack. Part of me wonders how much of our struggles are tied to being so undersized. We don't have a legit 4 on the roster, so we play Alcegaire there where he's got almost no chance to defend the spot. Because we're so undersized we need rebounding from our backcourt, and that means playing Denny to get those rebounds, but he's a black hole on offense. We like Worrell's ability to scrum it up a bit, but he's so foul prone and we have no other bigs that we cannot ever let he & Wiggins on the court at the same time for fear we'll have to play without a big. The Uju injury really hurt, but even with him we were disgustingly thin on the inside, but I guess I don't know how much fault we can levy when we didn't lose Mayleben (who was really nothing more than a body) until the summer.

Hell in warmups yesterday I had friends asking me why we didn't have anybody on the team who was tall...that could be part of our struggles...

[factman]

I think the class coming in next year will help tremendously in the "height" department.