Bye Bye Pitino

[gmartin]

Would you hire him at BG?

[fredthefalcon]

Here's an article with a list of current suspects and others involved. Look about 1/2 way down where the Miami Hurricane program is listed for $150M to a 2018 recruit. Laranaga not named but that's a lot of money and smoke not to know about something another one of your coaches may be doing.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basket ... nts-adidas" target="_blank

[BillyLP]

Here's an article with a list of current suspects and others involved. Look about 1/2 way down where the Miami Hurricane program is listed for $150M to a 2018 recruit. Laranaga not named but that's a lot of money and smoke not to know about something another one of your coaches may be doing.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basket ... nts-adidas" target="_blank

$150K, but I know you meant that. I do believe it's very possible for a coach not to know about it. During recruiting and offseason, assistant coaches do a lot of work on their own, and a lot of them have their own contacts. You'll notice a couple of the assistant coaches listed continued their behavior at multiple schools with different coaches. They're ultimately trying to establish themselves to be head coaches in the future, and stay on the good side of the head coach. Wouldn't be surprised if assistant coaches kept their tactics a secret to ensure they are needed.

Also, gmartin, I wouldn't want Pitino within 100 miles of this program, even before this scandal. He's a slimeball.

[factman]

As I understand it, Miami may be off the hook, as no money had exchanged hands yet. Evidently there was consideration for 2017, but Adidas told them they were out of money for 2017 but might be able to do it in 2018. I believe I heard this on one of the radio talk shows yesterday. No matter how you look at it, the whole thing is a MESS, and will change college basketball a lot.
They need to do away with the "one nd done" rule, and either sign with an NBA/D League team or commit to a minimum of three years of college, similar to the baseball rule.

[gmartin]

One thing this did do, and someone on the radio show mentioned it, believe it was on Dakich radio show, this will level the college basketball a little more. Not all the power schools get the 'big star recruit.' I believe MSU is an Adidas school too. Hopefully they are not involved in any way. Already enough issues at MSU with the gymnastics doctor and off field football issues.

[fredthefalcon]

Here's an article with a list of current suspects and others involved. Look about 1/2 way down where the Miami Hurricane program is listed for $150M to a 2018 recruit. Laranaga not named but that's a lot of money and smoke not to know about something another one of your coaches may be doing.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basket ... nts-adidas" target="_blank

$150K, but I know you meant that. .l.

Actually I did mean M. Here is the definition for use of M or K. M and MM are roman numerals where M is one thousand and MM is intended to denote "one thousand thousands." K comes from kilo which is the unit prefix in metric systems to indicate "times one thousand.

I worked in financial analysis for 30 years and we always used M for Thousands.

[BillyLP]

Here's an article with a list of current suspects and others involved. Look about 1/2 way down where the Miami Hurricane program is listed for $150M to a 2018 recruit. Laranaga not named but that's a lot of money and smoke not to know about something another one of your coaches may be doing.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basket ... nts-adidas" target="_blank

$150K, but I know you meant that. .l.

Actually I did mean M. Here is the definition for use of M or K. M and MM are roman numerals where M is one thousand and MM is intended to denote "one thousand thousands." K comes from kilo which is the unit prefix in metric systems to indicate "times one thousand.

I worked in financial analysis for 30 years and we always used M for Thousands.

Interesting. Never knew that.

[gmartin]

Here was an idea that was brought up on a talk show earlier today. Wonder what athletes would choose?

1. Free education, room and board and meals.

OR

2. Eliminate All athletic scholarships and allowances having every student athlete pay for his/her own education but allowed to get paid for playing sports (paid by school or sponsors).

[BleedOrange]

So, Pitino gets the ax but Callipari is still going strong. Truth is stranger than fiction.

[gmartin]

Believe Callipari and Sean Miller are sweating it out. Wouldn't surprise me to see UNC too. Weren't they involved with a cheating scandal a few years ago of students taking test for athletes. One can of worms usually opens another.

[transfer2BGSU]

Here was an idea that was brought up on a talk show earlier today. Wonder what athletes would choose?

1. Free education, room and board and meals.

OR

2. Eliminate All athletic scholarships and allowances having every student athlete pay for his/her own education but allowed to get paid for playing sports (paid by school or sponsors).

Free education (tuition, room, board, and all of other items the university currently does for your sport

-OR-

Receive a salary and from that salary comes your tuition, room, board, books, transportation to away games, hotels for the away games, meals for the away games, tutoring, parking permit (every O$U $tudent-athlete receives a parking permit), Athletic Department staff (SID if nominated for awards, trainers and athletic training expenses, conditioning coaches and weight room privileges), uniforms (and you need to make sure they get to the away game site so be ready to pay extra if you're flying because that ain't going to be your one carry-on item if you're a football player or hockey player), tickets for your family to attend games, etc.

Amazes me when the O$U back-up QB says that they can't be given a hamburger. Look at what he gets for being on that team and then he wants to complain about a measly hamburger. I guess that what you have to expect when the coach has to put "Respect Women" on a sign in the locker room (isn't that just plain common sense?).

[Flipper]

There was a discussion about paying players a few years back on 97.1 in Detroit. A girl called up and outlined what she got as a scholarship athlete in a non revenue sport at the University of Missouri. She got a rent and food allowance for her off campus apartment. She got access to food on campus..including protein supplements.. at the "training table.".Her tuition and books were covered and she had a closet full of Mizzou Tigers logo clothing...so much of it she would probably never wear all of it.

Scholarship athletes at major Universities have no room to bitch

[Globetrotter]

There was a discussion about paying players a few years back on 97.1 in Detroit. A girl called up and outlined what she got as a scholarship athlete in a non revenue sport at the University of Missouri. She got a rent and food allowance for her off campus apartment. She got access to food on campus..including protein supplements.. at the "training table.".Her tuition and books were covered and she had a closet full of Mizzou Tigers logo clothing...so much of it she would probably never wear all of it.

Scholarship athletes at major Universities have no room to bitch

When the team is making hundreds of millions and the coach is signing shoe contracts for millions I think they definitely have some sort of gripe. I am closer to agreeing with you than disagreeing with you on this but I don't think it's so black and white because someone is making a ton of money. I certainly get frustrated at work when I do all the work and my boss makes twice as much.

[Flipper]

Globe..if it's any consolation, at one point your boss probably thought the same thing about his/her/other boss..and probably still does today. Someday, some person will complain that he does all the work while you pull the big bucks for nothing. It's the nature of the game...

In the case of college hoops...do people buy tickets to see the guys who are most likely only there for a year or two..or are they there to see the program they love? If there was no Kentucky Wildcats basketball program, would 23,500 buy tickets to see Hamidou Diallo and Kevin Knox play basketball? We know that 23,500 paid to see the team before they got there....so how much value do they actually add? It's tough to quantify.

[BillyLP]

Globe..if it's any consolation, at one point your boss probably thought the same thing about his/her/other boss..and probably still does today. Someday, some person will complain that he does all the work while you pull the big bucks for nothing. It's the nature of the game...

In the case of college hoops...do people buy tickets to see the guys who are most likely only there for a year or two..or are they there to see the program they love? If there was no Kentucky Wildcats basketball program, would 23,500 buy tickets to see Hamidou Diallo and Kevin Knox play basketball? We know that 23,500 paid to see the team before they got there....so how much value do they actually add? It's tough to quantify.

For me the big issue is the (EXTREME) profiting off of the likeness of players. Players are used in advertisements for the NCAA tourneys, jerseys with their numbers are sold, they do autograph sessions, etc. When Jacobs was the QB every store in town was selling #4 BG jerseys. I can see where, as a player, that would come across as unfair when you can't even afford to pay for a full tank of gas. I don't think players should get salaries or anything like that, but I think the NCAA should do some kind of profit sharing based off of their licensing and TV revenue.