THE MAC

[bacn3]

Ok from what i hear about the girls game there is a big problem with mac refs!!! and i don't say this just because we are on the bad end sometimes i'm sure it is in other games too can we do something about this it's been going on for years. I believe it is time to call out some names i see the same refs and the are always bad everytime. Other fans from other schools lets ban together this is getting to be really bad our kids can't play anymore!!! I lose more faith in the sport of basketball everyday!!!

[BGDrew]

1) Proofread what your saying, it's kinda hard to follow. Grammar goes a long way.

2) The men's game particulary was unbelievably bad officiating. Unfortunatly bad officials will always be there and we've been on both sides of it.

[ialone82]

Ok from what i hear about the girls game there is a big problem with mac refs!!! and i don't say this just because we are on the bad end sometimes i'm sure it is in other games too can we do something about this it's been going on for years. I believe it is time to call out some names i see the same refs and the are always bad everytime. Other fans from other schools lets ban together this is getting to be really bad our kids can't play anymore!!! I lose more faith in the sport of basketball everyday!!!

Wow, punctuation? Do you know how to start and end a sentence? Talk about embarressing to Bowling Green...

[BGDrew]

So is spelling embarassing wrong,

[bacn3]

OK. Sorry the post sounded so bad, but come on man that was low. I posted that at 1:11 am. Yes we are on the winning side sometimes too; however I for one don't like winning like that. This was a big game. I guess I was trying to ask if anyone knows if these games are reviewed by anyone. If the games are by whom and what are the consequences? I know coach called out some refs last year and he was put on probation. Does anyone know what happened to those refs, were they put on probation?

[BGDrew]

Ever now and then refs get evaluated by the league office to make sure they are performing their duties. Occasionally a formal complaint will be made to the office and it will be reviewed. I'm not sure, but I think it costs money to do so.

[Jham]

This is why this board is so good at times and so bad at others...And I've said it before (MCMetz could likely back me up here or you could search through my posts) but we hear, over and over again, after every road trip and encounter with other teams' fans about how bad they are, how obnoxious they are, etc. etc. etc.

Except for the Memphis and Oklahoma fans in football this year, I've never ever heard a good thing said about an opposing team's fans, and in my recollection, is because of the same whining, complaining nature nearly every single person who has posted here since the end of the game yesterday has displayed!

I posted on another whining thread bacn3 posted (after I deciphered it) about this: Western is clearly a physical team, and as someone mentioned, the more physical team will get calls.

If you look at this hoops board and the women's, I'd bet that 3 or 4 out of every 5 posts has some sort of freaking whining in it. I mean, good God, I'm not sure any of the posters on the women's thread were at the game, and they're STILL complaining about the calls! Doesn't that seem a little out of wack to anyone else?

I love this board as much as others, and love BG...But, the next time I see anyone complaining about any other team's fans, I'm going to bring all of these posts up. We hold ourselves well above other team's fans for their indiscretions, but from what I've seen post WMU and post UT women, this is bad.

[ialone82]

So is spelling embarassing wrong,

D@mn, now I am "embarressed".

[BleedOrange]

OK. Sorry the post sounded so bad, but come on man that was low. I posted that at 1:11 am. Yes we are on the winning side sometimes too; however I for one don't like winning like that. This was a big game. I guess I was trying to ask if anyone knows if these games are reviewed by anyone. If the games are by whom and what are the consequences? I know coach called out some refs last year and he was put on probation. Does anyone know what happened to those refs, were they put on probation?

Bacn3, you need to write like that ALL THE TIME. This post was much easier to understand than your others.

About the officiating, I've often wondered the same thing. The refs have been so conspicuously bad over the last few years that I've wondered why there hasn't been more official form of backlash (say, from athletic directors or groups of coaches). Both teams always tape their games, and it would be relatively simple to review game tapes for blown calls. Teams could conduct their own reviews and lodge complaints complete with proof.

For me, the MAC's poor officiating often ruins my enjoyment of games. Yes, I'm complaining, but I've believed that the MAC has a serious problem. I'd even propose that poor officiating contributes to poor attendance at games in AA and elsewhere.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

so what happens if some people get what they ask for and these "bad" refs are removed? Who will replace them? Guess who....more bad refs. Last time I checked there wasn't exactly a line of top officials waiting to call MAC games. The mac is not a top-10 conference and thus will never have top-flight officiating. Anybody who can't deal with that, should research how to become an official and put in their two weeks notice. Sometimes the refs are absolutely downright terrible and I have whined about my fair share of calls, but I don't believe there is anything we can do about it. If you need quality officiating, go to an NBA or ACC game. MAC teams have to battle through it and win games regardless off the officials.

[It's the Journey...]

You think the Nothing But Attitude has "quality referees"? Thats the best joke I have heard all weekend! So what if we weed out some bad refs? So what if they rest of the officials have to pick up some more games? Pay them more money and set the bar! Just because we are not the ACC does not mean we have to accept crappy officiating. We get these clowns because the conference office doesn't care. If the fans start demanding better officiating, aka where the money comes from, then it will get better. But it will have to come from all of our schools and not just BG. It sounds to me like everyone is getting hosed so lets start talking to other schools. Money talks. And being denied money with an easy solution available talks even louder.

[BleedOrange]

I think simple accountability would motivate many of our current officials to do a better job. Others would be removed, and that's fine. I'm sure that there are hordes of HS refs willing and able to do the job. I wonder how lackadaisical the refs have become, and if they might have too much job security. Nothing motivates performance like a little scrutiny under the white hot light of your superiors.

The officiating at times can be so bad that I almost think it would better if players called their own files like in open gym.

[orangeandbrown]

I'm going to have to dispute this. Do you really think the MAC doesn't care about the quality of officiating? I don't think that's very likely. I think we have the best officials we can get. Who says those "hordes" of high school refs are going to be any better. I have seen all the home games this year, and I thought that they have been well-officiated except for the last one.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

I'm going to have to dispute this. Do you really think the MAC doesn't care about the quality of officiating? I don't think that's very likely. I think we have the best officials we can get. Who says those "hordes" of high school refs are going to be any better. I have seen all the home games this year, and I thought that they have been well-officiated except for the last one.

Exactly. We can remove all the officials we want, but we won't all of a sudden get magically perfect referees. People who are on the wrong end of calls (bad or not) are always going to complain about officiating which is why the league office would not take fan complaints seriously. If you want to try to band together MAC fans to upheave the league office and bring about change than that's fine and I admire you and wish you luck. I'll spend my time on endeavors that I believe have a chance of benefiting someone.

[UK Peregrine]

Suiting picture to sum up this thread. Can't get the picture to show up on its own so have to click the link.

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