MAC Coaches Rank the Best Jobs in the Conference

[BGSU33]

https://watchstadium.com/mac-college-ba ... 1-10-2019/

[fanatic13]

I don't have much gripe with the ranking besides being behind western. Not sure why our analysis hated on our academics and campus. Compared to the Mac I feel like both of those are at least average

[Globetrotter]

I dont get the tradition thing. I think that if you picked an all time starting 5 BG has the best 5 ever to play in the MAC. I guess many were pre MAC.

Komives
Thurmond
Daniels

Not sure who the other two would be on the list.....Stacey probably....But I don't think any other team competes with that level of talent. I am very biased though.

A team of
Daniels
Komives
Stacey
Holmes
Thurmond

Competes with any team ever. Problem is we had most of them 30 years apart.

[OSUFALCON]

You obviously don’t remember Ron Harper, Wally Szczerbiak, Gary Trent or Steve Mix.

[Globetrotter]

You obviously don’t remember Ron Harper, Wally Szczerbiak, Gary Trent or Steve Mix.

I don't understand this point. Of course other teams have had good players. What I mean is if you were going to create a starting five of all teams ever....ie BGSU best 5 ever, OUs etc.....no one compares to BG.

[Falconwriter]

When I read the knock against BG was poor academics -- I dismissed the credibility of the entire thing.

[OSUFALCON]

You obviously don’t remember Ron Harper, Wally Szczerbiak, Gary Trent or Steve Mix.

I don't understand this point. Of course other teams have had good players. What I mean is if you were going to create a starting five of all teams ever....ie BGSU best 5 ever, OUs etc.....no one compares to BG.

I thought you were saying BG had the best 5 MAC players. I see now you’re saying they could put out the best 5 as a team. My bad.

[Globetrotter]

You obviously don’t remember Ron Harper, Wally Szczerbiak, Gary Trent or Steve Mix.

I don't understand this point. Of course other teams have had good players. What I mean is if you were going to create a starting five of all teams ever....ie BGSU best 5 ever, OUs etc.....no one compares to BG.

I thought you were saying BG had the best 5 MAC players. I see now you’re saying they could put out the best 5 as a team. My bad.

Equally my bad. I could see how it could read that way.

[BGSU33]

I dont get the tradition thing. I think that if you picked an all time starting 5 BG has the best 5 ever to play in the MAC. I guess many were pre MAC.

Komives
Thurmond
Daniels

Not sure who the other two would be on the list.....Stacey probably....But I don't think any other team competes with that level of talent. I am very biased though.

A team of
Daniels
Komives
Stacey
Holmes
Thurmond

Competes with any team ever. Problem is we had most of them 30 years apart.

It’s simple, it’s because BG is non-existent in the NCAA postseason. Period. End of story. No one outside of BG knows about our program because we’re irrelevant. Even among our peers. We are the only team in the MAC to never win the MAC Tournament. And there lies the problem. While teams like Ohio, Kent State, Buffalo and Ball State have made names for themselves in the NCAA Tournament, they got a chance to do it because they won the MAC. Some of those teams have been to the Elite 8 and Sweet 16. For crying out loud, BG only has one postseason win in the postseason vs St Francis (Pa) under Chris Jans in the CIT or whatever obscure tournament it was in like the past 40 years. Like it or not, we’re irrelevant.

[BGSU33]

When I read the knock against BG was poor academics -- I dismissed the credibility of the entire thing.

Well, like it or not, we get shredded by a couple of our in-state peers in Athens and Oxford in this category. And BG gets shredded even worse in attractiveness of campuses compared to those places. Both Ohio and Miami steamroll BG in both academic rankings and appealing campuses. I’d be willing to bet that comment stemmed from a coach at one of those institutions too, because trust me, those “knocks” on BG are truly used against us. I lived in an affluent neighborhood in Northeastern Ohio with an EXCEPTIONAL school district - one of the best in the state of Ohio. Kids flock to Ohio and Miami (both places are farther away than BG is from there) if they stay in state, and they don’t even think of BG, it’s not even a consideration. And this isn’t just my opinion, I’ve seen the statistics. To make matters even more insulting, BGSU actually has advertising at this school’s football stadium. It’s wasted money. You walk through the neighborhoods and see the stickers on the back of the cars drive by, and you see Ohio and Miami, you don’t see BG.

The fact is, BG is a campus right off the highway. And its academic ratings lag behind a ton of public schools across the country and are behind many public schools in Ohio too. And many people do find the campus blah, ugly or boring. Ohio and Miami have beautiful architecture, lots of mature trees and green spaces, campuses that are inviting and attractive. They look like a college campus should look like. BG went through years of designing buildings to resemble things like slide projectors, pianos, books standing upright and a bird. There’s only one quad on campus that remotely features mature trees and collegiate looking buildings. And BG has ugly more surface parking lots (even added yet another new one in what was once a nice looking area in the inner campus) than I have seen anywhere. And yet, people still wonder why we lag compared to some of our peers. Hmmm.....

[hammb]

I love BG (the town and the University) but if I'm looking at it objectively there is no way in hell I'd take BG over OU. Sadly I had no exposure to ou before selecting my college or I almost certainly would've ended up in Athens, it might be my favorite town in Ohio.

They have a gorgeous campus,a world-class brewery in town, and right outside hocking hills.

[Globetrotter]

Someone messed up dearly when building the buildings on BGs campus. It started out great, then they just created a hodgepodge.

[Falconwriter]

I love BG (the town and the University) but if I'm looking at it objectively there is no way in hell I'd take BG over OU. Sadly I had no exposure to ou before selecting my college or I almost certainly would've ended up in Athens, it might be my favorite town in Ohio.

They have a gorgeous campus,a world-class brewery in town, and right outside hocking hills.

Yeah, it's pretty. So is Miami. They have the advantage of being in areas that didn't get flattened by the glacier that ironed NW Ohio. When I was looking at schools, I toured both of them, and found, very quickly, that Miami catered to wealthier folks (and at that time, the students were quite snobby and it was expected that you join a fraternity if you wanted to go anywhere). OU was much more down-to-earth, but it really was a party school of the first order.

When my family & I toured BG (and attended a football game) students said hello and asked if we needed help to find our way around, since we obviously looked like tourists. There was a warmth and friendliness on that campus that was missing from OU and Miami.

As for academics...so much of that is based on the reputation of faculty and -- well -- reputation. There is not such a significant difference between the three that going to one over the other two will somehow magically give you an advantage when seeking a job. In fact, I had just about every prospective employer tell me how much respect they had for BG as a university and its ability to prepare students for the working world.

So I guess things have really gone downhill for BG in the past 40 years.

[Schadenfreude]

The academic comments are kind of silly. Only three schools in this conference appear to have a better academic reputation: Ohio, Miami, and Buffalo. That's it.

Architecture hasn't stopped Robyn Fralick or Danijela Tomic. It didn't stop Matt Fannon or Dave Clawson or Chris Bergeron.

If Bowling Green had more of a winning tradition in men's basketball, nobody in that anonymous survey would be talking about academics or architecture.

[BleedOrange]

Coaches? Why are coaches being surveyed about Tradition and Academic Reputation? Who cares what a bunch of meathead coaches say about about those topics. (No MAC schools have traditions worth a sh1t anyways.)

Beyond Miami, the academic reputations across MAC schools aren't enough to matter to any kid considering offers. The difference in media exposure is small and will ALWAYS be overridden by how good a team is at a particular time.

ALL of these factors can be heavily overridden by a great coach. If the next John Wooden shows up at NIU, their lack of tradition doesn't mean a damned thing.

There are 2 factors that decide the quality of a MAC MBB head coaching job
1. University support and prioritization of MBB
2. Pay

Thank you, next.