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The path to Cleveland
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:17 am
by Matty B
Assuming we don't beat OU or West Bancroft High next week, there is but one scenario where we get to Cleveland:
BG beats WMU Saturday
Miami loses out (@TOL/@CMU/EMU)
EMU loses its other 2 games besides Miami (@BallSt/WMU)
NIU goes 1-2 or worse (@Buffalo/Kent/OU)
We would win a 3 way tie breaker between BG/EMU/Miami (or 4 way including NIU) for the 8 seed.
That's it. That's the only way we make it to Cleveland.
Couple other scenarios in play should we win 2 games, but let's not waste our time there yet.
Re: The path to Cleveland
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:19 pm
by Buckeye Bullitt 93
The only way this team is going to Cleveland is if they get asked to introduce Pat Benatar into the Rock & Roll Hall of fame this year.
Re: The path to Cleveland
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:11 pm
by mbenecke
What a pathetic season.
I won't even be around this year to be able to make the trip, but I would love to make a weekend out of going to the MAC tournament to watch our Falcons play if they were actually going to be there.
We should be there every year and we should be winning games when we get there more often than not, given the Frack money. That feels like it should be the bare minimum acceptable level of achievement from this program.
Re: The path to Cleveland
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:03 pm
by hammb
mbenecke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:11 pm
What a pathetic season.
I won't even be around this year to be able to make the trip, but I would love to make a weekend out of going to the MAC tournament to watch our Falcons play if they were actually going to be there.
We should be there every year and we should be winning games when we get there more often than not, given the Frack money. That feels like it should be the bare minimum acceptable level of achievement from this program.
That is absolutely the standard I expect from this program. It's why I was so upset when Huger was extended, and I grow more salty with every passing game. I'm tapping out tomorrow. I cannot plan another Saturday around this team the way they've played...we're going to go have some different family fun this Saturday.
It's funny to have such high expectations for a program that has played in 2 MAC title games in the past 20 years (losing both of them). But it's just undeniable that expectations should have gone up with the financial bonus that Mr. Frack gave us.
And man, if you ever do get a chance, just grab a hotel room in Cleveland (I love the Hyatt @ the Arcade) and get yourself an all tourney ticket with some buddies to just watch the ball games. It's fun to just soak in all the hoops, tons of good fun bars/casino to hang out at, great restaurants, etc. I have gotten old, so I haven't done it in probably 17 years or so, but when I was in my early 20s it was also a blast because there were cheerleaders, dance teams, bands, etc from all the schools out and about at those same bars/restaurants. It was like a MAC takeover of downtown Cleveland.
Re: The path to Cleveland
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:56 pm
by mbenecke
hammb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:03 pm
mbenecke wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:11 pm
What a pathetic season.
I won't even be around this year to be able to make the trip, but I would love to make a weekend out of going to the MAC tournament to watch our Falcons play if they were actually going to be there.
We should be there every year and we should be winning games when we get there more often than not, given the Frack money. That feels like it should be the bare minimum acceptable level of achievement from this program.
That is absolutely the standard I expect from this program. It's why I was so upset when Huger was extended, and I grow more salty with every passing game. I'm tapping out tomorrow. I cannot plan another Saturday around this team the way they've played...we're going to go have some different family fun this Saturday.
It's funny to have such high expectations for a program that has played in 2 MAC title games in the past 20 years (losing both of them). But it's just undeniable that expectations should have gone up with the financial bonus that Mr. Frack gave us.
And man, if you ever do get a chance, just grab a hotel room in Cleveland (I love the Hyatt @ the Arcade) and get yourself an all tourney ticket with some buddies to just watch the ball games. It's fun to just soak in all the hoops, tons of good fun bars/casino to hang out at, great restaurants, etc. I have gotten old, so I haven't done it in probably 17 years or so, but when I was in my early 20s it was also a blast because there were cheerleaders, dance teams, bands, etc from all the schools out and about at those same bars/restaurants. It was like a MAC takeover of downtown Cleveland.
I took my wife to watch the BG women play in the championship game last year, and even in a COVID-y arena environment, it was still a ton of fun. Definitely planning to get out there and do the full weekend at some point.
We were actually planning to go to the semifinals and finals in 2020 before the world shut down. Here’s hoping BG find themselves back in that situation (in a spot where they could win in Cleveland) soon.
Re: The path to Cleveland
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:12 pm
by Schadenfreude
hammb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:03 pm
But it's just undeniable that expectations should have gone up with the financial bonus that Mr. Frack gave us.
Why?
Re: The path to Cleveland
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 5:15 pm
by footballguy51
Well, we're going to be at the game tomorrow night. We've missed most of the games this year because an almost 2-year old is impossible to get to many of the games with bedtimes. We're going because he has fun seeing the mascots and eating popcorn. We play WMU, so it should also be a winnable game for us.
Re: The path to Cleveland
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 5:49 pm
by Schadenfreude
Cleveland March #MACtion is fun. I had a great time watching the Bowling Green women win a MAC title in one of their runs to Cleveland. It was a pretty good crowd.
Also, as others have said, there is plenty to do in downtown Cleveland.
Re: The path to Cleveland
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 5:57 pm
by hammb
Schadenfreude wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:12 pm
hammb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:03 pm
But it's just undeniable that expectations should have gone up with the financial bonus that Mr. Frack gave us.
Why?
Because we're paying our coaches among the most in the MAC, it's fair to expect among the best coaching in the conference.
We're also financially equipped to have one of the highest recruiting budgets in the MAC, it is fair to expect these better coaches to find better talent.
We are also in a position to play a better OOC schedule, which should a) better prepare us for conference play and b) build a post season resume if we ever actually won our conference
All these things are fair. Ignoring the fact that we have by far the most private money in our basketball program is folly. Just because the current administration doesn't have a clue how to spend it doesn't mean the expectations shouldn't be there.
Further if bill Frack didn't believe his money could make a difference then he never would have gifted it. That was the whole effing point of his donation.
If I win the lottery I'm buying BGSU basketball.
Re: The path to Cleveland
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:30 pm
by Flipper
hammb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 5:57 pm
Schadenfreude wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:12 pm
hammb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:03 pm
But it's just undeniable that expectations should have gone up with the financial bonus that Mr. Frack gave us.
Why?
Because we're paying our coaches among the most in the MAC, it's fair to expect among the best coaching in the conference.
We're also financially equipped to have one of the highest recruiting budgets in the MAC, it is fair to expect these better coaches to find better talent.
We are also in a position to play a better OOC schedule, which should a) better prepare us for conference play and b) build a post season resume if we ever actually won our conference
All these things are fair. Ignoring the fact that we have by far the most private money in our basketball program is folly. Just because the current administration doesn't have a clue how to spend it doesn't mean the expectations shouldn't be there.
Further if bill Frack didn't believe his money could make a difference then he never would have gifted it. That was the whole effing point of his donation.
If I win the lottery I'm buying BGSU basketball.
I so very seldom say this...but...hammb...couldn't have said it better myself
Re: The path to Cleveland
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:10 pm
by Schadenfreude
hammb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 5:57 pm
Schadenfreude wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:12 pm
hammb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:03 pm
But it's just undeniable that expectations should have gone up with the financial bonus that Mr. Frack gave us.
Why?
Because we're paying our coaches among the most in the MAC, it's fair to expect among the best coaching in the conference.
That's fair. If we are paying our coaching staff more, we should have higher expectations. I didn't realize that was part of where the Frack money was going.
Re: The path to Cleveland
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:53 pm
by Diemilkweed
Hammb and Flipper agreeing.....
This truly is the end times. Russia and Ukraine is just the start.
Re: The path to Cleveland
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:08 pm
by BleedOrange
Really, who cares if we make the MAC tournament at this point?
Re: The path to Cleveland
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:40 pm
by Flipper
Diemilkweed wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:53 pm
Hammb and Flipper agreeing.....
This truly is the end times. Russia and Ukraine is just the start.
Really?...I tend to agree with him on most things...I thought...but...maybe the perception is different. I knw we didn't agree on the mass formation psych....I mean COVID response...but 10 people will tell you 10 things on that
Re: The path to Cleveland
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:51 pm
by Matty B
Man.. had we just beat western we'd be in good shape to get to Cleveland. Now we need to win at the blue weiner building on Douglas Ave AND have one of Miami or Central lose on Friday night..
We're gonna get screwed by Central not playing all their games due to COVID or whatever.