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What should have been the end for Huger…
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:29 am
by guest44
https://twitter.com/pooleyjd/status/149 ... I0tgn_pTBQ
This entire situation stunk from the beginning. It was a coach who lost his program, and an athletic department run by people most concerned with protecting their own asses. Bob Moosbrugger, never get it twisted. You were absolutely horrible at the job. Anyone with a brain knew it was probably over when Turner left, but they certainly knew Huger was toast with how he handled this.
Time for poor BGSU to pay money to someone not to work for them anymore. Time for poor BGSU to wonder why Toledo is hanging banners, and you’re tweeting. Time for poor BGSU to take no accountability for bad apples and just protect poor BGSU.
Re: What should have been the end for Huger…
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:05 pm
by ZuluWarrior
At least we are not Auburn whose last two football coaches are being paid out a combined $50MM+ and then they hire a disgraced and disgraceful coach and human being to take over. Some mismanagement by former Athletic Directors, yes, but the programs have been run for the last five years with very few stains on our university.
Re: What should have been the end for Huger…
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:44 pm
by FalconTurf
guest44 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:29 am
https://twitter.com/pooleyjd/status/149 ... I0tgn_pTBQ
This entire situation stunk from the beginning. It was a coach who lost his program, and an athletic department run by people most concerned with protecting their own asses. Bob Moosbrugger, never get it twisted. You were absolutely horrible at the job. Anyone with a brain knew it was probably over when Turner left, but they certainly knew Huger was toast with how he handled this.
Time for poor BGSU to pay money to someone not to work for them anymore. Time for poor BGSU to wonder why Toledo is hanging banners, and you’re tweeting. Time for poor BGSU to take no accountability for bad apples and just protect poor BGSU.
Nobody made Chris Jans act like an idiot and irritate influential alums - his bad, "sack up" as DD would say.
Huger got within ONE win of the NCAA tournament which is the ultimate goal.
Bancroft Tech's last dance was 1980 (no banners worth a nickle since in my opinion), just 12 years after BG.
The sad part is when you get one win away you would expect to get better recruits and become a perennial finalist at worst, it is not happening.
We can rewrite history but it seems obvious to me you keep those who get you that close hoping that they have a road map for that journey and will succeed soon. It appears that is not his destiny if he stays because the map to Cleveland has been lost which leaves no shot at the finals.
One more sad chapter that makes predicting that the next coach will fail likely. So start the thread now how the current AD and his assistants are incompetent and you'll likely look like a prophet. It much easier to predict and find failure - ENJOY YOURSELF!
Re: What should have been the end for Huger…
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 4:42 pm
by guest44
ZuluWarrior wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:05 pm
At least we are not Auburn whose last two football coaches are being paid out a combined $50MM+ and then they hire a disgraced and disgraceful coach and human being to take over. Some mismanagement by former Athletic Directors, yes, but the programs have been run for the last five years with very few stains on our university.
If by mismanagement you mean running the football program into the ground, and sending the basketball program to it's lowest point ever (as measured by all metrics) yes they mismanaged what expenses tells us matters most. It took no prophet to see Bob Moosbrugger was unfit for the job. His lack of a masters degree didn't meet a basic qualification. Bob Moosbrugger and Kit Hughes were incompetent.
Re: What should have been the end for Huger…
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:15 pm
by TommyG
If there isn’t a press conference scheduled by Monday afternoon I’d be concerned…I don’t know why they wouldn’t just make the move today?
Re: What should have been the end for Huger…
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 8:05 pm
by Globetrotter
guest44 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:29 am
https://twitter.com/pooleyjd/status/149 ... I0tgn_pTBQ
This entire situation stunk from the beginning. It was a coach who lost his program, and an athletic department run by people most concerned with protecting their own asses. Bob Moosbrugger, never get it twisted. You were absolutely horrible at the job. Anyone with a brain knew it was probably over when Turner left, but they certainly knew Huger was toast with how he handled this.
Time for poor BGSU to pay money to someone not to work for them anymore. Time for poor BGSU to wonder why Toledo is hanging banners, and you’re tweeting. Time for poor BGSU to take no accountability for bad apples and just protect poor BGSU.
Your paragraphs dont follow each other.
You're both mad they didn't fire him last season and mad they have to pay him not to coach.
Do you all remember that guy whose name was something like Gmartin and he was just a completely negative person just like this guy? Did he leave and then just come back as guest?
Re: What should have been the end for Huger…
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:29 pm
by maskedopining
A big decision coming for our new AD. Really interested to see how the search plays out.
Re: What should have been the end for Huger…
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:52 am
by guest44
Globetrotter wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 8:05 pm
guest44 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:29 am
https://twitter.com/pooleyjd/status/149 ... I0tgn_pTBQ
This entire situation stunk from the beginning. It was a coach who lost his program, and an athletic department run by people most concerned with protecting their own asses. Bob Moosbrugger, never get it twisted. You were absolutely horrible at the job. Anyone with a brain knew it was probably over when Turner left, but they certainly knew Huger was toast with how he handled this.
Time for poor BGSU to pay money to someone not to work for them anymore. Time for poor BGSU to wonder why Toledo is hanging banners, and you’re tweeting. Time for poor BGSU to take no accountability for bad apples and just protect poor BGSU.
Your paragraphs dont follow each other.
You're both mad they didn't fire him last season and mad they have to pay him not to coach.
Do you all remember that guy whose name was something like Gmartin and he was just a completely negative person just like this guy? Did he leave and then just come back as guest?
Huger has been fired everyone DM Globtrotter for information on who the new coach won't be.
Re: What should have been the end for Huger…
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:53 am
by hammb
FalconTurf wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:44 pm
guest44 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:29 am
https://twitter.com/pooleyjd/status/149 ... I0tgn_pTBQ
This entire situation stunk from the beginning. It was a coach who lost his program, and an athletic department run by people most concerned with protecting their own asses. Bob Moosbrugger, never get it twisted. You were absolutely horrible at the job. Anyone with a brain knew it was probably over when Turner left, but they certainly knew Huger was toast with how he handled this.
Time for poor BGSU to pay money to someone not to work for them anymore. Time for poor BGSU to wonder why Toledo is hanging banners, and you’re tweeting. Time for poor BGSU to take no accountability for bad apples and just protect poor BGSU.
Nobody made Chris Jans act like an idiot and irritate influential alums - his bad, "sack up" as DD would say.
Huger got within ONE win of the NCAA tournament which is the ultimate goal.
Bancroft Tech's last dance was 1980 (no banners worth a nickle since in my opinion), just 12 years after BG.
The sad part is when you get one win away you would expect to get better recruits and become a perennial finalist at worst, it is not happening.
We can rewrite history but it seems obvious to me you keep those who get you that close hoping that they have a road map for that journey and will succeed soon. It appears that is not his destiny if he stays because the map to Cleveland has been lost which leaves no shot at the finals.
One more sad chapter that makes predicting that the next coach will fail likely. So start the thread now how the current AD and his assistants are incompetent and you'll likely look like a prophet. It much easier to predict and find failure - ENJOY YOURSELF!
Clearly this is irrelevant with the news breaking a bit ago that Huger is being let go, but your logic (like that of Moose before) is completely wrong. Yes, UT has continually failed to get to the dance as well (one of the few things that gives me solace in our neverending run of crap), but you can quite easily look at the coaches on the 2 sidelines and realize one is worth retaining and the other was not. And that holds true even going back to when Huger got that extension.
Huger was a sub .500 coach. His teams got worse every single year in Feb/March. You gave him an extension because he did recruit one solid group of upper tier MAC talent and got out of their way enough to get them to the title game. Still, he was under .500 in MAC play at the time of his extension. Meanwhile Kowalczyk has a winning percentage of over .600 in MAC play has won 7+ MAC games every season except his first, and 7x finished #1 in his division/conference.
These 2 are a perfect juxtaposition of coaches that have failed to win the tournament, but 1 is worth continuing to give shots to and the other is not. Honestly, Kowalcyyk makes a lower salary than Huger (although has a substantial "media bonus" putting him above Huger). But I have no idea how they've kept a coach with his track record of winning there this long. UT fans better hope he gets them over the hump this week because I just don't see how they can keep him around much longer.
Re: What should have been the end for Huger…
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:20 pm
by FalconTurf
hammb wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:53 am
FalconTurf wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:44 pm
guest44 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:29 am
https://twitter.com/pooleyjd/status/149 ... I0tgn_pTBQ
This entire situation stunk from the beginning. It was a coach who lost his program, and an athletic department run by people most concerned with protecting their own asses. Bob Moosbrugger, never get it twisted. You were absolutely horrible at the job. Anyone with a brain knew it was probably over when Turner left, but they certainly knew Huger was toast with how he handled this.
Time for poor BGSU to pay money to someone not to work for them anymore. Time for poor BGSU to wonder why Toledo is hanging banners, and you’re tweeting. Time for poor BGSU to take no accountability for bad apples and just protect poor BGSU.
Nobody made Chris Jans act like an idiot and irritate influential alums - his bad, "sack up" as DD would say.
Huger got within ONE win of the NCAA tournament which is the ultimate goal.
Bancroft Tech's last dance was 1980 (no banners worth a nickle since in my opinion), just 12 years after BG.
The sad part is when you get one win away you would expect to get better recruits and become a perennial finalist at worst, it is not happening.
We can rewrite history but it seems obvious to me you keep those who get you that close hoping that they have a road map for that journey and will succeed soon. It appears that is not his destiny if he stays because the map to Cleveland has been lost which leaves no shot at the finals.
One more sad chapter that makes predicting that the next coach will fail likely. So start the thread now how the current AD and his assistants are incompetent and you'll likely look like a prophet. It much easier to predict and find failure - ENJOY YOURSELF!
Clearly this is irrelevant with the news breaking a bit ago that Huger is being let go, but your logic (like that of Moose before) is completely wrong. Yes, UT has continually failed to get to the dance as well (one of the few things that gives me solace in our neverending run of crap), but you can quite easily look at the coaches on the 2 sidelines and realize one is worth retaining and the other was not. And that holds true even going back to when Huger got that extension.
Huger was a sub .500 coach. His teams got worse every single year in Feb/March. You gave him an extension because he did recruit one solid group of upper tier MAC talent and got out of their way enough to get them to the title game. Still, he was under .500 in MAC play at the time of his extension. Meanwhile Kowalczyk has a winning percentage of over .600 in MAC play has won 7+ MAC games every season except his first, and 7x finished #1 in his division/conference.
These 2 are a perfect juxtaposition of coaches that have failed to win the tournament, but 1 is worth continuing to give shots to and the other is not. Honestly, Kowalcyyk makes a lower salary than Huger (although has a substantial "media bonus" putting him above Huger). But I have no idea how they've kept a coach with his track record of winning there this long. UT fans better hope he gets them over the hump this week because I just don't see how they can keep him around much longer.
I agree but,…Toledo ain’t the model of success we should aspire to.
Re: What should have been the end for Huger…
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:52 pm
by Falcon Fryed
Re: What should have been the end for Huger…
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:00 pm
by Falcon Fryed
FalconTurf wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:20 pm
hammb wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:53 am
FalconTurf wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:44 pm
guest44 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:29 am
https://twitter.com/pooleyjd/status/149 ... I0tgn_pTBQ
This entire situation stunk from the beginning. It was a coach who lost his program, and an athletic department run by people most concerned with protecting their own asses. Bob Moosbrugger, never get it twisted. You were absolutely horrible at the job. Anyone with a brain knew it was probably over when Turner left, but they certainly knew Huger was toast with how he handled this.
Time for poor BGSU to pay money to someone not to work for them anymore. Time for poor BGSU to wonder why Toledo is hanging banners, and you’re tweeting. Time for poor BGSU to take no accountability for bad apples and just protect poor BGSU.
Nobody made Chris Jans act like an idiot and irritate influential alums - his bad, "sack up" as DD would say.
Huger got within ONE win of the NCAA tournament which is the ultimate goal.
Bancroft Tech's last dance was 1980 (no banners worth a nickle since in my opinion), just 12 years after BG.
The sad part is when you get one win away you would expect to get better recruits and become a perennial finalist at worst, it is not happening.
We can rewrite history but it seems obvious to me you keep those who get you that close hoping that they have a road map for that journey and will succeed soon. It appears that is not his destiny if he stays because the map to Cleveland has been lost which leaves no shot at the finals.
One more sad chapter that makes predicting that the next coach will fail likely. So start the thread now how the current AD and his assistants are incompetent and you'll likely look like a prophet. It much easier to predict and find failure - ENJOY YOURSELF!
Clearly this is irrelevant with the news breaking a bit ago that Huger is being let go, but your logic (like that of Moose before) is completely wrong. Yes, UT has continually failed to get to the dance as well (one of the few things that gives me solace in our neverending run of crap), but you can quite easily look at the coaches on the 2 sidelines and realize one is worth retaining and the other was not. And that holds true even going back to when Huger got that extension.
Huger was a sub .500 coach. His teams got worse every single year in Feb/March. You gave him an extension because he did recruit one solid group of upper tier MAC talent and got out of their way enough to get them to the title game. Still, he was under .500 in MAC play at the time of his extension. Meanwhile Kowalczyk has a winning percentage of over .600 in MAC play has won 7+ MAC games every season except his first, and 7x finished #1 in his division/conference.
These 2 are a perfect juxtaposition of coaches that have failed to win the tournament, but 1 is worth continuing to give shots to and the other is not. Honestly, Kowalcyyk makes a lower salary than Huger (although has a substantial "media bonus" putting him above Huger). But I have no idea how they've kept a coach with his track record of winning there this long. UT fans better hope he gets them over the hump this week because I just don't see how they can keep him around much longer.
I agree but,…Toledo ain’t the model of success we should aspire to.
They have won three MAC titles in a row. They are quite literally the model of success we should aspire to be.
Re: What should have been the end for Huger…
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:09 pm
by mbenecke
Toledo always chokes in March, but at least they win games otherwise. We choke in March AND lose all the time. It’s at least some level of a step forward.
Re: What should have been the end for Huger…
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:00 pm
by BillyLP
He's referring to the previous AD, but it sounds like guest's bff will have his first major hire before too long.
And FWIW, guest is absolutely correct that the end should have been last season when he clearly lost the team, culminating with the Gordon/Reece dismissal, but at the end of the day, I imagine it's because we were backed into a corner financially and couldn't pull the trigger. Ultimately, it's probably what cost Moose his job.
Re: What should have been the end for Huger…
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:22 pm
by guest44
Just give it time folks.....Holy Cross has no idea what they hired.