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Why not Rosenberger?
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:33 pm
by Germainfitch1
Grant can probably speak to this more so than I but I think he would be an excellent candidate for our 5th schollie. He is 6-5 and has mostly played in the post but this season, form what I ahve heard he has been out at the point on many of an occasion. He may not have the quickness to guards 1's and 2's but he has decent ball handling skills and is a solid athlete. He could fill a Germaine Fitch type glue player role for us. He was also Woodmores QB this year after taking a year off and his presence basically led them to revamp their entire offensive emphasis. Getting him in on a scholarship for one sprt and haing him play both would be a huge get in my mind. I wish Brandon and the Basketball team got along better. I would love it if he were a Falcon.
Re: Why not Rosenberger?
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 3:34 pm
by ZiggyZoomba
Germainfitch1 wrote:Grant can probably speak to this more so than I but I think he would be an excellent candidate for our 5th schollie. He is 6-5 and has mostly played in the post but this season, form what I ahve heard he has been out at the point on many of an occasion. He may not have the quickness to guards 1's and 2's but he has decent ball handling skills and is a solid athlete. He could fill a Germaine Fitch type glue player role for us. He was also Woodmores QB this year after taking a year off and his presence basically led them to revamp their entire offensive emphasis. Getting him in on a scholarship for one sprt and haing him play both would be a huge get in my mind. I wish Brandon and the Basketball team got along better. I would love it if he were a Falcon.
He's a great kid, great athlete, great talent, and a killer scorer IN THE SLL. That's what's so hard, he plays in the SLL...not your hot-bed of talent. It's hard to get a feel for what he'd be like playing against more solid competition. Personally, I think he's be worth a shot, but most big-time SLL players end up starring at the DIII level. The last person from Woodmore to play DI ball was Jeff Haar, who graduated from HS in 1984 and went on to play at UT.
I love to see Tyler in Orange and Brown next year... we'll see what happens.
Woodmore won last night and will be playing Archbold in regionals at Anderson Arena on Thursday night... Depending on the situation (BG playing in Cleveland) it will be a good chance to see Tyler first-hand for those of you in BG.
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 3:46 pm
by hammb
I've never seen the kid play, but I must echo Grant's sentiments. Being a fellow SLL grad (Elmwood) I can attest that the talent level there is awful. It has to be, generally, one of the worst leagues in the state in hoops. Maybe this kid is the diamond in the rough, who knows, but generally ay SLL kid is a longshot at best.
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:10 pm
by Flipper
I think, rather I hope, that we'll spend our alst scholarship on a JC guy who can score. Heading into next year, it looks like our top three scoring options will be Wright, Opie and Soler. I'm not going to rule out any of the freshmen coming in and picking up the slack, but you don't want to be in a position where you're counting on that.
Do you think we can convince them to do the free fries at 65?
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:13 pm
by BleedOrange
We need a mid-range athlete like there's no tomorrow, guys. 6-3 to 6-6. He must run, jump, and defend all day.
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:18 pm
by ZiggyZoomba
BleedOrange wrote:We need a mid-range athlete like there's no tomorrow, guys. 6-3 to 6-6. He must run, jump, and defend all day.
Hmmmm, kind of sounds like Tyler Rosenberger...

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:24 pm
by hammb
I do agree Flipper that we are going to be hurting for some scoring next season. That said, I do think Vandermeer has an offensive game hidden in him as well. He has looked goood at times when he gets the ball on the post. He's got real soft touch around the basket and also a good jumper. At times recently he's looked better going hard to the rim as well (although got a charge yesterday).
I think our last scholarship absolutely MUST go to a guard. Preferably a guard in the 6'1-6'3 range, but he must be able to play some defense and handle the ball. Scoring would be nice as well. We have got to be about the only division 1 team that only has 3 guards on scholarship right now, can you imagine where we'd be if one of them got hurt? I think Floyd is pretty awful, but we're in the position right now where we absolutely need him to play.
As for us needing the athletic 6'4-6'6 wing athletes, that is pretty much all we've recruited at this point. I agree that looking at this team right now we need them, but the 4 guys we have signed are going to have to fill that role for now. We cannot afford to neglect the guard position to bring in a 5th 3/4 player.
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:40 pm
by edr4225
ok lets think about some things for a minute. first of all we will lose alot of scoring next year, but i think that one of our incoming freshmen will step up and be a scorer. also, i think steven wright will be an improved player next year. as for floyd, he will be a more steady point with less turnovers. hopefully mawel can develop a jumpshot, and vandermeer needs to just keep blocking shots. i personally cant see vandermeer being an inside threat at all, just look at his game at toledo, he lacks good form on his jumpshot and has no touch around the basket. Next year will be interesting, but its not here yet, so im gonna say go falcons and beat ballstate tommorrow night
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:19 pm
by Germainfitch1
I doubt scoring will be a huge a problem. a solid second scoring option is a necessesity. All we had returning this year was Reimold and we did fine. We lose our top two scorers but have a good number of guys who can score.
Ahlmanson never averaged over 8 points a game until this year and his numbers spiked.
Wright s in the 11 point range and I imagine that number will go up around 16 or 17. I expect both Mawel and Vandermeer to be around the 10-11 point range.
Right now I am thinking this need for offense will lend itself to Holland starting and playing a ton. I would bet he is our second scorer followed by Mawel, Vandemeer and Floyd. We will need who ever plays the 4 to be a guy who can create his own shot. I think thats Holland.
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:55 pm
by Flipper
I dunno fitch, I'm not sure I see what Almanson's development has to do with the potential of the rest of the roster. Wright has been inconsistent, Vandermeer shows some talent, but needs a lot of development and Soler has some tools, but he also hasn't been the focus of our opponenets defenses like he will be next year.
I hope your right about this, but I think you're assuming an awful lot of good things will happen without a lot of real evidence to suggest that they will
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:55 pm
by TG1996
Germainfitch1 wrote:Ahlmanson never averaged over 8 points a game until this year and his numbers spiked.
There's no "h" in Almanson, Germaine.
But I hope you're right that Wright becomes more consistent of a scorer and that someone else or three steps up to around a double digit average, otherwise it might be less than pretty. But that's next year, we've got 40 minutes to focus on tomorrow night, still.
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:13 pm
by Germainfitch1
Flipper wrote:I dunno fitch, I'm not sure I see what Almanson's development has to do with the potential of the rest of the roster.
Well did you expect ahlmanson to score 18 points a game this year? Thats my only point. I didnt see it in him. So among hte rest of the guys on hte bench maybe there is a scorer waiting to blossom next year with increased responsibility.
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:40 pm
by Flipper
Welll...I've been saying that Josh had the talent to be one of the top forwards in the MAC for a few years (really...I posted that very sentiment onthe old board a number of times). I don't see the same potential in Mawel, but who knows...he certainly progressed a lot this year.
But I'm willing to put this conversation of for at least another week since this year's team is still playing
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:38 pm
by Germainfitch1
I remember people talking about Montgomery's scoring ability when he signed on. But I must admit you are right about everyone else. Not a scorer in the bunch. Vandermeer is the closest thing. We could be atrocious next year if their is not marked improvement.
With that said When Vandermeer is a senior we will be solid. If we keep everyone.
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:35 am
by kslates
I'm not to sure about Rosenberger's defensive ability but maybe with some work it would be a different story. He did hold Marschall of New London to 7 points. There is no doubt that offensively he would fit in, he has been playing the point most of the season because Woodmore lacks another true point guard. He would be a good fit at the shooting guard and possibly backup Point.