Did ANYONE go to the scrimmage? If so, please report!

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Did ANYONE go to the scrimmage? If so, please report!

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Just wanted someone to chime in on what they saw.
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Here were Metz' comment from andersonanimals.com....

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If anyone has ever been to an intro scrimmage, you can't expect perfection. Our team was hustling everywhere but this was also causing them to play fast and careless. We had a lot of steals from bad passes but when the game slows down and the guys start understanding the motion offense in place, things will be fine.

The person I'm most impressed with is Lefeld. He's showing signs of Lenny Matela. Seriously...a kid that didn't look like he had a future here his first year or two and then stepped up to be a great post player. His moves under the basketball were tremendous today and all his low post shots were dropping. I think he realizes he's going to have to score close to 25 a game for us to win :D

The most impressive freshmen was by far Martin Samarco. He was just everywhere doing the right things and his shooting is dead on. Marschall didn't play as good as I would have liked, but that was honestly due to the lack of help from the teammates. He would be in position down low, and the ball never got to him. Guerin is a ball handling freak. His cross-overs were taking everyone out. Besides Lefeld, I guess I'm impressed with the walk-ons. If they ever need to get called upon, they will be able to produce and that's great depth to have on the bench.

Something else you will all like to hear is that Mr. Soler was playing.

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Yesterday, we had a chance to see our new players in the context of running/learning the offense. With the exception of Floyd, there were very few attempts to exhibit individual play. These are my opinion-laden observations from one practice session.

I was very happy with what I saw in Marschall. He appears to be a very athletic, active, mobile, and heady player who is willing to go to the floor or the boards at any time. He's athletically better than any of the seniors from last year. He looks like a plug and play freshman to me.

Samarco, a junior, looks rock solid. Smart player who knows what to do and what not to do. He will be able to absorb quality minutes at the point and keep perimeter defenses honest with his shot.

Sullivan comes as advertised. He appears very ready for the physical post play of D1 basketball. A banger. He will not dazzle us with wild leaping ability and a great variety of finesse post moves, but we don't need that. However, he appears to be a guy who will produce points, rebounds, and post defense very consistently. Sullivan and Marcshall are both, to my great relief, able to contribute substantially as freshmen.

Soler appears to have turned his aggressiveness up two notches. He was working very hard off of the ball, going after rebounds, and going after loose balls. Soler jumps well and reminded me a little of Fitch in how he went after the ball.

Clements has great quicks. Also, he's solid with the ball. He appears to be able to put the ball on the floor and get to a spot quickly. His outside shot, however, needs a quite bit of work. Nick Wilson looks strong and athletic. He did not attempt many shots or drives. He was staying in the offense.

Freeman and Guerin both looked good, especially Guerin. Guerin appears to be a bigger and more physical version of Graham Bunn. His ball handling was spot-on and his shot looked beautiful. Freeman was very involved in the offense yesterday and looks like he can provide much needed depth on the front line. We've had lesser players on scholarship in this prpogream. These guys are both excellent walk-ons.

I've always felt the Lefeld was very undervalued by the fans. He has obviously worked on his jump hook and was very physical inside. I'm looking for about 8p and 7r per game from him this year. What Lenny had that Matt doesn't is a go-to move that he can hang his hat on. Lenny would get the ball on the left block, pivot to his left in the lane, and manufacture 6-8 points per game. Matt might have a little more tenacity on the boards, particulary offensive.

Robinson and Floyd handled most of the point duties. While Robinson consistenly protected the ball, made good passes, and ran the offense, Floyd was looking to make big plays. Floyd frequently attempted contested perimetershots, made bad passes, and dribbled into situations that resulted in melee's and turnovers. IMO, I have a VERY, VERY strong preference for what I saw from Robinson.

(Moten, Rad, and Wright did not play in the practice game. Appearantly, Rad is freshly injured.)
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It was definitlya very uptempo game , much more so than I've seen before. DD seems to be changing this facet of our offense possibly. We'll need to with the athletes we have and the lack of post size and depth. I wouldn't say Lelfed dominated at all, he was hustling hard for sure, but he didn't impress me much while guarding a 6'8 freshman who probably only weighed 230 to his 6'11 and 265lb. Samarco looked pretty good. Sullivan looked good , definiltly a upgrade in athletism over what we've had in past years. Floyd looked okay to me. One thing I noticed , he's gotten huge. He's bulked up the muscle big time and looks like he's up to 195lbs to 200lbs at least. It was weird trying to figure out who are likly starting 5 will be. At pg it has to be either Floyd or Samarco, at the 2 guard hopefully Wright or Sarmarco/Wilson or Clements. SF Soler , Sullivan, or Moten when he joins the team. at pf probably Marshall or Sullivan with Lefled at center and virtually no backups at those positions. Its going to be a very interesting year to say the least.

Is Moten really only 6'1 to 6'2? I was hoping for another guard at least 6'4 or taller to help with our being short on big post players. You need a big athletic backcourt to offset a small Center power forward combo
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Everything on Moten that I've seen lists him at 6-4.

Yeah, it would be very hard envisioning the starting lineup based on what we saw yesterday, especially considering that Rad and Moten didn't dress but should be considered potential starters for some point in the season. Also, it feels very premature to speculate on how successful this team will be this year.
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Moten's like 6-1 or 6-2. He will never play the SF position...definitely PG or SG.

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Enough is Enough

I cant believe metz actually compared Matt Lefeld to Lenny Matela. At some point someone has to hold someone accountable for completely rediculous statements. I believe he said Matt reminds him of Lenny because he is a guy who might have looked like he didnt have a future in the program his first year or two. In Lenny's first year he had 5 double doubles and ended up averaging 6pts and 5 boards. His second year he was All-Mac while almost averaging 13pts and 8 boards. To take nothing away from Lefeld (because he appears to be a hard worker, as well as a good student) he is no Len Matela. In fact Matt has yet to reach double figures in points or rebounds in his carreer. Metz to be such a dedicated fan you know nothing.
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commonsense wrote:Enough is Enough
He's right, you know... Enuff Z'Nuff!

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commonsense wrote:Enough is Enough

I cant believe metz actually compared Matt Lefeld to Lenny Matela. At some point someone has to hold someone accountable for completely rediculous statements. I believe he said Matt reminds him of Lenny because he is a guy who might have looked like he didnt have a future in the program his first year or two. In Lenny's first year he had 5 double doubles and ended up averaging 6pts and 5 boards. His second year he was All-Mac while almost averaging 13pts and 8 boards. To take nothing away from Lefeld (because he appears to be a hard worker, as well as a good student) he is no Len Matela. In fact Matt has yet to reach double figures in points or rebounds in his carreer. Metz to be such a dedicated fan you know nothing.
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commonsense wrote:Enough is Enough

I cant believe metz actually compared Matt Lefeld to Lenny Matela. At some point someone has to hold someone accountable for completely rediculous statements. I believe he said Matt reminds him of Lenny because he is a guy who might have looked like he didnt have a future in the program his first year or two. In Lenny's first year he had 5 double doubles and ended up averaging 6pts and 5 boards. His second year he was All-Mac while almost averaging 13pts and 8 boards. To take nothing away from Lefeld (because he appears to be a hard worker, as well as a good student) he is no Len Matela. In fact Matt has yet to reach double figures in points or rebounds in his carreer. Metz to be such a dedicated fan you know nothing.
Well since your first post seems to be a blatant attack on an individual, how about a reply in kind. The correct spelling is ridiculus (or if your British ridiculous).
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PGY Tiercel wrote:Well since your first post seems to be a blatant attack on an individual, how about a reply in kind. The correct spelling is ridiculus (or if your British ridiculous).
Is it really a "British" spelling 'ridiculous'?? that's how I've always spelled it...
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TG1996 wrote:
PGY Tiercel wrote:Well since your first post seems to be a blatant attack on an individual, how about a reply in kind. The correct spelling is ridiculus (or if your British ridiculous).
Is it really a "British" spelling 'ridiculous'?? that's how I've always spelled it...
I would think yes, you may have learned it that way though. They tend to add some extra letters to american words: Behaviour, Odour, Flavour. Maybe I'm wrong. Not that into etymology
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I am sorry that I misspelled ridiculous or ridiculus (I think ridiculous is correct), I did not know that spelling was more important than the content of the post. Also, I was typing a little too fast and misspelled career also. I Just wanted to clear that up before someone feels the need to point that out. If you are going to respond, please do so to what was written, not the spelling. That is what I did after reading what Metz wrote about Lefeld. I was not attacking Metz. It did appear to me, however, that he was attacking Lenny with those comparisons.

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commonsense wrote:I am sorry that I misspelled ridiculous or ridiculus (I think ridiculous is correct), I did not know that spelling was more important than the content of the post. Also, I was typing a little too fast and misspelled career also. I Just wanted to clear that up before someone feels the need to point that out. If you are going to respond, please do so to what was written, not the spelling. That is what I did after reading what Metz wrote about Lefeld. I was not attacking Metz. It did appear to me, however, that he was attacking Lenny with those comparisons.

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Why can't Metz hold that opinion? If Metz compared Soler to Scottie Pippen that woudl be ok, because Metz is allowed to have an opinion.

Regading what Metz said, I don't think Metz said "Boy Matt Lefeld is better than Lenny. Matela's mom isn't even worth of holding Lefeld's Jock."

I took Metz's comments more to be like the work ethic shown by Lefeld and the results remind him of how Lenny improved at BG.

During Lenny's first two years I thought he was a bust, another stiff. But as you and I both know he turned out to be a damn fine ball player and really matured into the system.

Before you accuse me of demeaning Lenny I'll just let you know that I know him personally.
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