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Deliberately Provocative?

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:06 pm
by professorjackson
Probably. Doesn't mention that no one actually passes MOOCS. This would probably make the football powerhouse schools happy.

"Why College Football Will Be Dead Within 20 Years"

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/08/jon- ... -20-years/

Re: Deliberately Provocative?

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:21 pm
by mscarn
In 20 years people will flock to stadiums by the thousands to witness talented football players with different colored jerseys competing against one another. Precisely what they call themselves and the governance structure they operate under is anybody's guess.

Until the interwebs devise a way to facilitate direct alcohol consumption the traditional brick-and-mortar campus model should remain intact.

Re: Deliberately Provocative?

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:43 am
by MarkL
Interesting read but I don't buy it for one main reason. Kids don't just want to get a degree. They want to go to college. Experience college life. Meet lots of people. You can't do that from behind a computer. Similarly for grad school, if you really want to get the degree and become a great researcher, you go to the university and study and research. You don't just sit behind a computer. The GT online masters the article mentioned is not and will not be considered equivalent to a real in person MS by either employers or academia. It will be seen as more of a certification than a degree.

People will not quit going to college. Folks who want some more education in their spare time will flock to the online courses but those who want to seriously invest in their futures and experience college life will still go to college and athletics will still go on.

Re: Deliberately Provocative?

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:23 am
by footballguy51
In academia, people that apply for jobs with degrees from University of Phoenix and the like have their applications placed in the trash can. I don't see that perception changing anytime soon.

Re: Deliberately Provocative?

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:47 pm
by Flipper
As long as there are herds of 18-21 year old women moving about on campus, there will be scores of young men interested in going to college. Therefore...college football will always exist....

Re: Deliberately Provocative?

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:46 pm
by mscarn
Beer, girls, diminishing though still present prestige and talking to people in person vs. convenience and at least partially avoiding crushing debt.

It's a battle royale for the soul of America!

Re: Deliberately Provocative?

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:15 pm
by BGDrew
footballguy51 wrote:In academia, people that apply for jobs with degrees from University of Phoenix and the like have their applications placed in the trash can. I don't see that perception changing anytime soon.
Elitist much?

Re: Deliberately Provocative?

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:54 am
by footballguy51
BGDrew wrote:
footballguy51 wrote:In academia, people that apply for jobs with degrees from University of Phoenix and the like have their applications placed in the trash can. I don't see that perception changing anytime soon.
Elitist much?
It's the perception of those institutions and those degrees. That isn't going to change anytime in the near future. As for whether I feel the same, I do. Where you go has just as much importance on a resume as what degree you earned. Just like somebody with an education degree from BG will always be considered before somebody with an education degree from UT (if cuts had to be made before interviews), a PhD from a brick and mortar institution will always be considered before a PhD from Phoenix or Kaplan.

Re: Deliberately Provocative?

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:30 am
by MarkL
There are some well respected online universities. Where I am, UMUC is one. They offer online M.S. but it is course only, no research. It is basically a more concentrated B.S. for a working professional. It will help you advance your career but it is not as highly respected as a M.S. in person with research as a top focus and it will not look good in PhD admissions. My M.S. is from a Big Ten school and involved both research and practical components. Just recently I went through a job search and a huge percentage of questions asked regarded my research and my thesis. Given all of this and my career, I can say my traditional M.S. was totally worth it, even if it meant putting off my professional career for a few years.