Balancing Power: Changing Transfer rules

Germainfitch1 · Post by **Germainfitch1** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:26 am

I was thinking of ways that they could somewhat balance power in College football...not entirely like ht NFL but just on a better scale. And I was thinking of changing the transfer rules. It is no coincidence that the best two QBs in the country are on Texas and USC. The reality is that they might have 5 of the best 50 Qbs in the country on those two rosters....Some guys waiting their turn (Matt Leinart) some guys who will never get a turn (Matt Cassell) How could the NCAA make it so that these players can get a turn and teams that seem less exciting become more exciting? What about letting all of the teams who did not make it to a bowl last year accept transfers without the player having to sit out a year? For instance Justin Zwick could transfer to OU or Cincinnati and start/play his final year. Currently he could not do that because he has 1 year of eligebility left.

Perhaps allowing them to transfer without having to sit out a year, or allowing them another redshirt year could spread out these marquee players who get stockpiled on teams and never see the field.

And how the heck do you spell elegibility? Nothing looks right and its to late to search around.

04forheisman · Post by **04forheisman** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:35 am

This idea would ruin college athletics. People would transfer all of the time, we wouldn't be able to field a basketball team.

factman · Post by **factman** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:46 am

I think LOYALTY is a very important trait, and this idea whould completely demolish it in college football! NOT A GOOD IDEA.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:20 am

Eligibility.

What your idea forgets is that this is not just about sports, it's about academics. The reason for the transfer rule is to dissuade transfers, the last thing the NCAA wants is to encourage them. The players pick a school based on what they feel it offers them. Sometimes that can change once they get there, but the NCAA should not promote a policy that makes it look as though quality of the team is the only thing that matters.

Falcons4Life · Post by **Falcons4Life** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:49 am

Maybe if these guys would use their brains before picking a school they would realize that they have a better chance of playing if they go to another school....cost-benefit analysis is a wonderful thing....

I do think the idea would make college sports better, but unfortunately it wouldnt make college better!

Falcon52 · Post by **Falcon52** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:04 am

I would hope that our coaches use the Zwick example as a recruiting tool for players. Hey, you will start here for sure, but at OSU you could sit for 3 or 4 years.

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:16 am

Falcon52 wrote:I would hope that our coaches use the Zwick example as a recruiting tool for players. Hey, you will start here for sure, but at OSU you could sit for 3 or 4 years.

Or possibly not see any playing time.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:17 am

Falcon52 wrote:I would hope that our coaches use the Zwick example as a recruiting tool for players. Hey, you will start here for sure, but at OSU you could sit for 3 or 4 years.

But when Zwick was recruited it was thought that Troy Smith would be the one sitting for 3 or 4 years.

Some players think that they can beat out at any competition for starting time and want to play on the best teams with a chance to win the national title. Not much we can do about those types.

Personally, I'm not that high on bringing in any players that are taking the easy way out after not being good enough to play on their original team. I don't like what it says about their mental makeup as players that they're that willing to give up.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:18 am

You can transfer from one division 1 football program to another without sitting ot a year now. You can from 1A to 1AA. If all a guy like Zwick wants to do is play, go to Youngstown State.

Germainfitch1 · Post by **Germainfitch1** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:45 am

hammb wrote:
Falcon52 wrote:I would hope that our coaches use the Zwick example as a recruiting tool for players. Hey, you will start here for sure, but at OSU you could sit for 3 or 4 years.
But when Zwick was recruited it was thought that Troy Smith would be the one sitting for 3 or 4 years.

Some players think that they can beat out at any competition for starting time and want to play on the best teams with a chance to win the national title. Not much we can do about those types.

Personally, I'm not that high on bringing in any players that are taking the easy way out after not being good enough to play on their original team. I don't like what it says about their mental makeup as players that they're that willing to give up.

17 year olds make bad decisions all the time. How can you call a kid a quitter if he has a great player ahead of him and may never get a chance to show he is a great player.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:03 am

Germainfitch1 wrote: 17 year olds make bad decisions all the time. How can you call a kid a quitter if he has a great player ahead of him and may never get a chance to show he is a great player.

Great players get on the field regardless of who is ahead of them. It's part of the mental makeup it takes to become a great player. They compete and earn playing time.

I cannot think of too many great players that went to BCS schools, couldn't earn playing time, then transferred to a less successful program and proved how great they were. I'm sure there are a few, but off the top of my head I cannot think of any.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:51 am

Flipper wrote:You can transfer from one division 1 football program to another without sitting ot a year now. You can from 1A to 1AA. If all a guy like Zwick wants to do is play, go to Youngstown State.

Flip: Fantastic point there.

Germainfitch1 · Post by **Germainfitch1** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:38 am

hammb wrote:
Germainfitch1 wrote: 17 year olds make bad decisions all the time. How can you call a kid a quitter if he has a great player ahead of him and may never get a chance to show he is a great player.
Great players get on the field regardless of who is ahead of them. It's part of the mental makeup it takes to become a great player. They compete and earn playing time.

I cannot think of too many great players that went to BCS schools, couldn't earn playing time, then transferred to a less successful program and proved how great they were. I'm sure there are a few, but off the top of my head I cannot think of any.

Matt Cassell and Brad Johnson? non transfers

Brandon Jacobs? transfer

How do you know great players get on the field regardless of who is ahead of them if they never get on the field?

How can you say you can't name anyone who has transferred when the transfer rules are so strict they limit it.

PGY Tiercel · Post by **PGY Tiercel** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:15 pm

Flipper wrote:You can transfer from one division 1 football program to another without sitting ot a year now. You can from 1A to 1AA. If all a guy like Zwick wants to do is play, go to Youngstown State.

Or a guy like Gutierrez

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