According to Scout

BGSUfalcons · Post by **BGSUfalcons** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:23 am

BourbonFalcon wrote:Will someone please explain to me how two sites Rivals and Scout can have so much disparity between them? Scout has us 2nd in the MAC and Rivals lists us as 8th. How by looking at pretty much the same players (give or take a few because of not updating lists) can there be this extreme of a difference in opinions? Rivals has Buffalo up there pretty high and they only have 3 total recruits listed!

Also I was looking on Scout, and I noticed something that maybe someone can help me with. Does every J.C. recruit automatically recieve a 3 star rating? I noticed a lot of other MAC schools had a few 3 star recruits but the majority were J.C. recruits. I would think when comparing classes the fact that BG, UT, Miami and a few others have 3 star recruits out of high school. Is any weight given to this fact or am I just ranting about how full of crap these ranking systems can be?

I can't figure out Rivals' rankings. They have Akron at #66 and leading the MAC. But, looking at the rankings of their players compared to the rest of the conference (not just in terms of stars, but in terms of the more specific number ranking on their 6.1 scale, a number of MAC teams seem to have way more quality players than Akron).

One problem with BG's ranking on Rivals is that Jahmal Brown is listed as a 5.4 in his profile, while still be listed as a 5.0 on the commitment list. That aside, and even keeping Brown at 5.0, here are the lists for Akron and BG:

Akron:

5.6
5.5
5.4
5.3
5.2
5.2
5.2
5.2
5.1
5.1
5.1
5.1
4.9
4.9
Nothing
Nothing

And now BG:

5.5
5.4
5.4
5.3
5.3
5.3
5.3
5.3
5.2
5.2
5.1
5.1
5.0
5.0

Again, that is with Jahmal Brown still listed at 5.0 instead of 5.4. Do you see a 25 spot difference is Akron's favor (#66 to #91)?

p.s. Yes, I am trying to avoid doing work.

rocketfootball · Post by **rocketfootball** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:25 am

Flipper wrote: Rivals has bumpoed up their ratings on Brown and Glaud. They are both a hair under three stars (Rivals uses a secondary RR number) Glaud and Brown are now a 5.4 RR. A 5.5 = ***

That's interesting. I never paid attention to that before. Makes me feel better about Toledo's class. We have 3 kids with 3 stars and 5 more that are rated 5.3 or 5.4........and that doesn't count OL Levi George that hasn't been evaluated by Rivals yet and is still a zero star because of it.

factman · Post by **factman** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:29 am

Here is a reason to not feel quite so good about your class, RF.

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plainde ... xml&coll=2

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:51 am

moneymaker02 wrote:everything i ever heard about hutch from other football players is that he was a pretty boy and was soft. he hated to get hit and ran bad routes. if brantley is healthy he will be a deep threat.

The thing that concerns me about guys like Brantley and Brandon Jones is they've been in the program for 4 years but have been passed on the depth charts by freshman and sophomores in the past. I know they have the speed but....

I sure hope these two can step it up for their SR season...it's now or never.

rocketfootball · Post by **rocketfootball** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:53 am

factman wrote:Here is a reason to not feel quite so good about your class, RF.

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plainde ... xml&coll=2

Quite the contrary. I have reported this already on the UT message boards and removed him from my list. He was the lowest ranked UT verbal on Rivals.com and one of the lowest on Scout.com as well. The kid is about 200 to maybe 210 pounds and he is a defensive end. He needs to add a lot of weight and muscle to play DE in Division I. My guess is that UCONN is going to move him to OLB, but UT is very full at OLB so he would have stayed at DE with Toledo.

I don't think losing him will hurt at all, especially if he really doesn't want to be at Toledo. I think when you look at other DL players that have publicly verballed to Toledo in Skylaar Constant, Joe Underwood, and Maurice Hill you will see that they are all considered better players on paper. Also, UT fans will be happy with DL commits as signing day approaches because there is at least one guy that isn't public and he is definitely rated higher than Witton.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:05 am

Falconfreak90 wrote:
moneymaker02 wrote:everything i ever heard about hutch from other football players is that he was a pretty boy and was soft. he hated to get hit and ran bad routes. if brantley is healthy he will be a deep threat.
The thing that concerns me about guys like Brantley and Brandon Jones is they've been in the program for 4 years but have been passed on the depth charts by freshman and sophomores in the past. I know they have the speed but....

I sure hope these two can step it up for their SR season...it's now or never.

Freak - agreed. My concerns exactly...

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:08 am

There's some noise on a rivals board that sean Hakes has decommitted from Akron. FWIW, Rivals has Anthony Glaud rated just as highly, but there's no video ion Glaud.

No idea where Hakes is headed, but Oregon was on him earlier and Michigan has been QB shopping since their back up left for 1AA

BGSU Falconz · Post by **BGSU Falconz** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:13 pm

They have sports management at Yale? :ugh:

BGSU33 · Post by **BGSU33** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:38 pm

Falconfreak90 wrote:
moneymaker02 wrote:everything i ever heard about hutch from other football players is that he was a pretty boy and was soft. he hated to get hit and ran bad routes. if brantley is healthy he will be a deep threat.
The thing that concerns me about guys like Brantley and Brandon Jones is they've been in the program for 4 years but have been passed on the depth charts by freshman and sophomores in the past. I know they have the speed but....

I sure hope these two can step it up for their SR season...it's now or never.

My thougths too 'Freak. Does anyone know if Brantley had surgery on his knee after the season ended? Didn't hear tear his ACL or MCL or something and decided to play with that brace on his knee all season and skipped surgery? Anyone know what's going on with him?

BG EV · Post by **BG EV** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:21 pm

KB (Brantley) had a knee injury in preseason and wore a brace for the season. With full recovery he is one of our fastest receivers. He is also a great guy who will give everything he has.

Hutcherson never showed much in practice. Routinely dropped the ball.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:17 pm

I think our latest Rivals rating show 4 kids at 5.4 (Mahone, Glaud, Brown and Donahue)and three at 5.3 (Culberson-Fehling, Jackson and Brighton)
ojas is listed now at ** with a 5.0. If they look at the kid at all, I'm sure that will go up.

Culberson-Fehling looks good on the video I saw. He's a DE, not a DT like Scout.com listed him. He's very quick off the line and he follows the ball very well....he even picked a pass off when the QB tried to throw over him

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:45 pm

Flipper wrote:Culberson-Fehling looks good on the video I saw. He's a DE, not a DT like Scout.com listed him. He's very quick off the line and he follows the ball very well....he even picked a pass off when the QB tried to throw over him

Sounds like another DE from that school who also signed with the Falcons.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:14 pm

1987alum wrote:
Flipper wrote:Culberson-Fehling looks good on the video I saw. He's a DE, not a DT like Scout.com listed him. He's very quick off the line and he follows the ball very well....he even picked a pass off when the QB tried to throw over him
Sounds like another DE from that school who also signed with the Falcons.

Maureen F had an article in the Blade the other day on the connections that this year's football recruits have with current players.

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... /601230356